Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #197

[FrostedGlass]

Another thing they have in common is they are not BG.

jmo

Well, yes. We could also say the same for the other 6+ milllion people in the state of Indiana. I'm thinking in smaller circles than that.

Seriously, were you able to find anything else?

 

[FrostedGlass]

Which is the most important fact

I doubt that's the reason for being called to testify.

 

[SouthEnd]

Well, yes. We could also say the same for the other 6+ milllion people in the state of Indiana. I'm thinking in smaller circles than that.

Seriously, were you able to find anything else?

They are all connected with previous theories - at least three of them to previous suspects discussed online.

EDIT: MOO

 

[Inthedetails]

Well, yes. We could also say the same for the other 6+ milllion people in the state of Indiana. I'm thinking in smaller circles than that.

Seriously, were you able to find anything else?

Don't get me started on Chadwell. I studied him more than he was worth. I don't think he was BG (though I did at one point).

But I think you meant your question for someone else, not me.

jmo

 

[FrostedGlass]

Don't get me started on Chadwell. I studied him more than he was worth. I don't think he was BG (though I did at one point).

But I think you meant your question for someone else, not me.

jmo

No, I meant that for you. I quoted and replied to what you said.

I didn't intend to get you started on anything other than if there is anything that ties these 4 men together as witnesses. Maybe there isn't anything?

 

[FrostedGlass]

They are all connected with previous theories - at least three of them to previous suspects discussed online.

EDIT: MOO

Thanks. I searched WS and didn't find any discussion regarding two of the men named; so those were new to me.

 

[Inthedetails]

No, I meant that for you. I quoted and replied to what you said.

I didn't intend to get you started on anything other than if there is anything that ties these 4 men together as witnesses. Maybe there isn't anything?

I'm not the person who originally posted about the witnesses. I commented on the topic as part of the thread.

I didn't look for anything that ties them together and have no intention or interest in doing so.

jmo

 

[FrostedGlass]

I'm not the person who originally posted about the witnesses. I commented on the topic as part of the thread.

I didn't look for anything that ties them together and have no intention or interest in doing so.

jmo

Thank you. I apologize for quoting you.

 

[SouthEnd]

Thanks. I searched WS and didn't find any discussion regarding two of the men named; so those were new to me.

I reported my post to see what we are allowed to discuss on WS. I imagine some of these men haven't really been discussed because their connections to the case have been tentative to say the least, but you will find the 3 names popping up in less discerning forums. IMO

 

[girlhasnoname]

I admire a good Defense Attorney and think they are an integral part of the Justice System...the balancing of scales. Every Defendant is entitled to a competent and vigorous defense and I've seen that happen in trials here on WS.

What I cannot condone is the degree of unethical behavior, bordering on gross misconduct IMO, of this particular Defense Team. They've played fast and loose from Day 1 and they're the first Defense Attorneys I've taken this immense distrust in. FWIW not all people dislike all Defense Attorneys.

JMO

 

[FrostedGlass]

Looking back. That terrible feeling of dread.

 

[taylorss]

How many days will it take to seat the jury? What day might the prosecution make their opening statement? Anyone know?

I read opening statements expected on the 18th

 

[Inthedetails]

I read opening statements expected on the 18th

A week from today.

At last.

jmo

 

[girlhasnoname]

That is one theory, and I don't entirely disagree - in general, I'd expect more people to have sympathy for the victims vs the alleged perpetrator and their team.

I wanted to speak about TMS and their leanings in particular. MS is led by an attorney and a journalist, and they were both VERY critical of the way JG ran the court, they were VERY critical of the probably cause affidavit, and a few of NML moves in the past. I have been listening to them since the early KAK discovery and I remembered being annoyed at how softly worded all their reporting was towards the accused. If anything they 'anti Defence' (or rather 'mad at the D & the internet sleuths batting for the D') has been a recent development, and seeing how the Pro Defence SM talks about them, tearing their appearance to pieces etc, I can't blame them.

PS: There has been a pro-Defence shift in recent years. 100%, compared to the early 90s and the 'curb all crime, punish everyone,' ppl tend to have more sympathy for convicted criminals. We all witnessed it with the Adnan Syed case (which IMO is a very strong open and shut case), and the few cases popularised by podcasts/netflix, see: Making a Murderer. However, in the past year or two, I see a massive popular switch to pro-conspiracy thinking online/anti P, that's altogether different than the 'maybe this person is innocent' and more 'the LE is bad/wrong as a principle'. See Karen Reid case, Scott Peterson's new fandom etc.

All MOO

Couldn't agree more, TMS in the very beginning were very much leaning towards the Defense side of things IMO. Then as stuff came slowly leaking out and they began to see the actions of the D here, their opinion changed. They've said as much on a couple of their Podcasts.

They still question the State's position on certain things and they also give the other side an opportunity to address the issues that come up. That to me is about as unbiased as any Podcast can be. I think they are more logical and rationale than most.

JMO

 

[susiQ]

YEPPERS !!!

All felons in prison/jail

Not law abiding citizens that would be trust worthy

It seems that is how the D-team rolls !!

MOO but that appears how the IDOC rolls as well, no? Using felons to “watch” RA. Are they trustworthy? If we’re going to call into question who the D uses in their defense of RA, why not call into question who the IDOC used to suicide watch a man suffering from noted mental illness? MOO

 

[Vaderman]

Is today the last business day that things can be delayed before this thing kicks off Monday?

 

[susiQ]

Almost half of our female prisoners have been prescribed psychotropic medications and yet we never see spontaneous confessions.

RSBM
While these statistics may be factual, they fail to take into consideration the circumstances of RA’s incarceration and possible mistreatment (tasering, verbal abuse, isolation) that he endured. One should not compare without knowing all the details that will hopefully be revealed at trial. JMHO

 

[TTF14]

Is today the last business day that things can be delayed before this thing kicks off Monday?

Last month a very high profile trial was canceled/delayed the morning of its start! (Donna Adelson)

 

[TTF14]

RSBM
While these statistics may be factual, they fail to take into consideration the circumstances of RA’s incarceration and possible mistreatment (tasering, verbal abuse, isolation) that he endured. One should not compare without knowing all the details that will hopefully be revealed at trial. JMHO

Thank you!

 

[TTF14]

I doubt that's the reason for being called to testify.

I agree.