moonriverfarm
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Were there any other children in either trailer when this happened to Amberly?
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Again ... it’s not about makeup and clothes in the majority of cases.Bringing this from closed thread.
"I agree, unfortunately. It is not victim blaming to point out trends and facts. My parents met over homicides, their careers, one a detective, the other a homocide reporter....unfortunately a lot of sexual predators do take extra notice, or are aroused by, young girls in precocious outfits or makeup. Not the victims' fault in the slightest. But is it a fact, yes it is."
Thank you.
And she was one of the most innocent lambs ... my stomach still hurts from thinking of her in the hands of the real life monster who lived next door. It’s heartbreaking ... truly tragic.I am always haunted by the quote from Hannibal Lecter in "Silence Of The Lambs" as he was guiding Clarice to Buffalo Bill. He asks Clarice how we learn to covet and his answer is "We begin by coveting what we see everyday."
Never doubt this beautiful innocent child is in our hearts, as well. We get to know her as we research and she becomes part of us IMO...in other words it’s because you got involved that you feel this way ... and it’s that kind of involvement that I hope one day will help change attitudes and laws about child molesters and child killers. I even hope that someone contemplating doing something so evil might be stopped or changed by what is written in these threads.i dont know why being local makes a.terrible case even more heartbreaking, but somehow it does
Meth, like alcohol and other drugs is an EXCUSE to do what was already in their mind ... it gives them the excuse/reason to ignore that still small voice that tells them “NO.” Meth - just like guns - can’t kill unless a person uses it to commit the crime. MOO.“Madison was arrested on March 2, 2019, on possession of a controlled substance and drug paraphernalia charges, shortly after Amberly’s body was found. Court records show that Madison was accused of meth possession in the case that led to his arrest. Authorities also said he had a syringe used for methamphetamine.”
—Another case where the perp had ties to meth.
This was the Bella Cannella vibe I got earlier that I mentioned in thread 1. These cases have turned out to be quite similar.
Source link for reference re: Bella:
Police: Man who killed Bullhead City girl had been high on meth
A LOOK UP - listing of individuals with address and phone numbers. The Yellow Pages are for businesses.What is the white pages in America ?
From my research - I would say ANY narcotic drug has the possibility to bring out violence in someone. I have seen and read about alcoholics who turn violent on alcohol but I’ve also witnessed drug free individuals become violent and do evil things.He was arrested for meth possession though, right? Couldn't use of that drug alone explain a violent attack?
I mean, we're all talking about child rapists and various terrible things he may well be, but couldn't be also have just been strung out of his mind? I'm thinking of other violent crimes committed by people on various substances. I'm not an expert on meth by any means, so just asking if this is possible?
Good point: Opportunity. And wrenchingly sad, if a child has been abused before, they are more apt to be targeted, due to appearing fragile or lost. The Kansas City detective said predators are hunters...culling the weakest from the herd when opportunity presents itself. So some of this is apples and oranges. Opportunity vs human right to dress as one see's fit....two different subjects. ( just like priests don't molest youth because they are straight men who are celibate, the bad priests molest youth because they are child molesters.) it can get a little confusing....a child wearing makeup and precocious clothing will catch the eye of a criminal child molester, ( which isn't the child's fault)not the eye of a healthy adult male. Etc etc etc....so in another case, if a sexual predator wants a young female woman, he would probably seek a vulnerable one...alone...drunk even better....late at night possibly when there are no witnesses. Does this make her guilty? No, different subject. ( human rights)! Does it supply opportunity? Yes. Motivation, means and opportunity, three parts of crime. Now, say the predator sees two women trot out drunk from the bar he is hunting. The afore mentioned youthess, and me...a fat, grey haired sweat suit wearing woman. If he is a sexual predator with a *advertiser censored* addiction, the young, makeup wearing, provactively dressed girl, would be his choice. Is all of this pretty disgusting and unfair, obviously yes, and heart breakingly sad. But I worry about telling girls go forth , never worry, pay no mind ...it doesn't hurt to be aware of criminal set ups, and try to avoid them.Again ... it’s not about makeup and clothes in the majority of cases.
“Child molesters have repeatedly admitted: When there's a physically or emotionally absent parent in the picture, it makes the child more vulnerable to grooming and abuse.”
A Profile of the Child Molester and Grooming Techniques | Child Lures® Prevention
Of course, we don’t even know for certain YET that she was sexually assaulted - so this may not apply in this case.
Again ... it’s not about makeup and clothes in the majority of cases.
“Child molesters have repeatedly admitted: When there's a physically or emotionally absent parent in the picture, it makes the child more vulnerable to grooming and abuse.”
A Profile of the Child Molester and Grooming Techniques | Child Lures® Prevention
Of course, we don’t even know for certain YET that she was sexually assaulted - so this may not apply in this case.
True! But how serial killers or sexual predators if you ask them to please be nice will immediately change course? Girls should never live in terror that an outfit will get them murdered, ever! But we also want to be as wise as a serpent....don't supply amazing opportunity for crime...crime needs a motivation and an opportunity. ..My daughter's lovely. I only asked her to have a buddy if she went out drinking so she didn't go forth alone and disoriented,possibly smashed, at two am, in her disco clothes. Victim shaming is wrong. But of all people, we on this site, should know there are evil predators. Not giving them amazing opportunity is wise, not the same as victim shaming. And I am a "victim". I did the counseling, I get it. But we don't want to be naive about how these people operate, or think if just educate them, all these girls would have been safe. It is not, I repeat, the girls' fault, even one percent.
I agree, I fail to see the relevance about an 11yr old in makeup etc has any relevance to what happened to her. This sicko Did this and he alone is responsible for what happened to her.
Websleuths is not the place to have a disccusion about how one should or should not raise their children. Nothing good can come of it and it will only lead to a locked thread IMO
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