AL AL - Birmingham, BlkMale, 60-70, naked in chair on porch, 2nd Ave North, Jul'20

[YaYa_521]

ID's sought for 2 sets of human remains found a day apart
Updated Jul 22, 2020; Posted Jul 22, 2020

• a decomposing body
• front porch of a vacant house at 6231 Second Avenue North, near Kennedy Alternative School in East Lake
• Black male
• between 60 to 70 years old
• 5-feet, 11-inches tall with a medium build
• balding, tightly curled, short white hair
• white beard
• several missing teeth
• fingernails were neatly trimmed
• 11-inch horizontal scar across his upper abdomen
• All organs present, as well as all fingers and toes
• died of natural causes

Jefferson County Coroner needs help identifying two men whose bodies were found

 

[dalsglen]

I wonder if this could be him, not too far away.

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

 

[YaYa_521]

Here's this Doe's NamUs profile.

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

Unidentified Person / NamUs #UP72429
Male, Black / African American
Date Body Found July 5, 2020
Location Found Birmingham, Alabama
Estimated Age Range 60-70 Years
Estimated Age Group Adult - Pre 80
Estimated Age Range (Years) 60-70
Estimated Year of Death 2020
Estimated PMI 3 Days
Height 5' 11"(71 inches) , Measured
Weight 238 lbs, Measured
Hair Color Gray or Partially Gray
Head Hair Description - Balding, tightly curled white hair.
Body Hair Description - No hair grows on the legs.
Facial Hair Description - White moderate length beard.
Eye Color - Brown
Finger and toe nails - Fingernails extend to the tips of the fingers and are neatly trimmed.
Piercing - The earlobes are not pierced.
Tattoo - No tattoos.
Clothing - No clothing. Near the Body
Other - No personal property found at the scene. - Near the Body

Circumstances of Recovery
The decedent was found unclothed sitting in a chair on the front porch of a vacant house. Multiple local media articles failed to gain additional information on the identity of the decedent.

Inventory of Remains - All parts recovered
Condition of Remains - Not recognizable - Decomposing/putrefaction

 

[imstilla.grandma]

2020-2972

UP72429

07/05/2020

UNKNOWN

60-70

B

M

5'11"

6321 2nd Avenue North, Birmingham, AL 35212

Unidentified Persons - Jefferson County, Alabama

The Official Website of Jefferson County, Alabama

www.jccal.org

 

[BrownBear]

3 Exclusions
MP50440 James Wilson Jr. 05/31/2018 Onslow NC
MP58626 Allen Turner 06/10/2019 Harrison MS
MP56704 Leedell Morgan 11/06/2017 Jefferson AL

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

 

[DS2021]

A sketch would help immensely

 

[lightofmine99]

"Front Porch John Doe" 2020 is now on the Doe Network.

4043UMAL

There are still only 3 exclusions on NamUs.

 

[quibble]

"Front Porch John Doe" 2020 is now on the Doe Network.

4043UMAL

There are still only 3 exclusions on NamUs.

Could the gentleman have been placed there, due to an abscence of clothes and personal items?

 

[annemc2]

Could the gentleman have been placed there, due to an abscence of clothes and personal items?

This is very speculative, but this guy could have been relatively well looked after (well-nourished, trimmed nails) in an unregistered personal care home where he died of natural causes (high BMI, circulatory issues due to absence of hair on legs), and was placed at the house so that the care home owners could continue receiving SSI/SSDI checks after he was dead.

To me, it seems like family would have had him taken to hospital or funeral home, and a murderer would have just dumped him in a more isolated area. To leave him undressed (no personal items, no clothing to trace) shows lack of a close personal connection but to place him on a porch and in a chair seems like whoever left him there cared at least a little bit about him. A blanket would have been nice. Poor guy.

 

[lightofmine99]

I wonder if he had a mental episode and took off, ultimately ending up dead on the front porch of a vacant home having stripped his clothes off. Can't be hypothermia-based paradoxical undressing as this was July. MOO.

 

[lightofmine99]

The article in the original post says that he was found at the address 6231 2nd Avenue North. Google Street View (dated 2017) shows a handful of older, run-down homes close by. One appears to be occupied and well-cared for, but there are two that look abandoned and there is a decrepit building further down the street. One of the two abandoned homes has an enclosed porch, and the one that does not (a brown house) has a porch bench on it. Again this is from 2017 but I don't see much changing in 3 years if the house was truly unoccupied and not cared for.

This also occurred very close to an alternative school and a highway. So, there's a fair amount of activity in that area. I think if he was placed there, the people responsible would have wanted to do so when it was dark. It would also need to be done relatively quickly after death as rigor mortis would not allow him to be posed in a chair.

MOO.