All Casey Cell Phone LOGS and PINGS Part#2

[Pink Panther]

All you have to do is ask!

 

[Theonly1]

All you have to do is ask!

Thanks, Pink !!!

 

[BondJamesBond]

On another forum they are suggesting that this number could be a number that you call to open up gates to enter an appartment complex - similar to the ones that Dante has described for the Sawgrass. According to AH's interview, the place where AL lived did have these gates (she talks about how she had to get round them to pick up KC the day KC drove her to the airport). I have no idea if this makes sense???

Hey, Pink. That was just a few pages back Just thinkin' out loud again

Another poster asked about the duration of the calls. I was able to check one during the week of 6/16 since I don't have any July phone records, and the duration was just over a minute. If anyone has the July records handy and can see if the duration to the 9899 and 9999 numbers are always in the same range, then, maybe its a possiblity. I know there's another individual linked to at least one of these numbers in Ft. Lauderdale. That may be it, but, thought the security gate was one that could be eliminated if it ever turns up long durations. Also appears to be an autoshop located w/ 0000 number per earlier posters. Hmmmmm....

 

[Pink Panther]

Hey, Pink. That was just a few pages back Just thinkin' out loud again

Another poster asked about the duration of the calls. I was able to check one during the week of 6/16 since I don't have any July phone records, and the duration was just over a minute. If anyone has the July records handy and can see if the duration to the 9899 and 9999 numbers are always in the same range, then, maybe its a possiblity. I know there's another individual linked to at least one of these numbers in Ft. Lauderdale. That may be it, but, thought the security gate was one that could be eliminated if it ever turns up long durations. Also appears to be an autoshop located w/ 0000 number per earlier posters. Hmmmmm....

Autoshops are sometimes charged with setting up those security gate features. That's why I thought to mention this. You make a good point about the duration of the calls. Should probably be under a minute if its a gate.

 

[BigFatMommyDog]

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Hey, Pink. That was just a few pages back Just thinkin' out loud again

If anyone has the July records handy...QUOTE]

Mr. Bond, all the records can be found on docstoc ... just enter "casey phone" into the search box. Several sources have posted them there (including fellow WSers, I believe) I have found the documents titled with page numbers (e.g. 26-51) to be the one's I use most (easier or more complete). You can download or view them. The July pages are there.

 

[BigFatMommyDog]

...opps, missed the last part of your post Mr. Bond. The 0000 number is the car dealership that I believe has been identified as GAs workplace. If you look at the June pattern, this number is called almost daily (weekdays, except Fridays -- GA's day off). Additionally it is almost always followed by calls to CA's cell and A's home. I mentioned it in an earlier post. To me it looks like her routine to determine whether the "coast was clear" while heading back to the A's home in the afternoon as appeared to be her habit.

 

[TURBOTHINK]

However, it is some of the other 3 percent of pings that have raised some questions, Local 6 reported.

On June 17, the day after George Anthony said he last saw his granddaughter alive, Casey Anthony apparently returned to the family home at about 2:30 p.m.

Then, around 4 p.m., the phone pinged a cell tower southwest of the family home at Lee Vista Boulevard and South Goldenrod, Local 6 reported. The location was near where detectives directed EquuSearch volunteers to look for signs of Caylee several weeks ago.

At 5:20 p.m., Anthony's cell pinged a tower near Blanchard Park at state Road 50 and Goldenrod, Local 6 reported. That site was also searched in August by EquuSearch.

Records showed that Casey Anthony's cell phone went silent during a time between 5:23 and 8:23 on June 17 -- no text messages, no calls in and no calls out.

Anthony then turned up near her boyfriend's apartment, records showed.

On June 18, a neighbor of Casey Anthony's parents said they noticed the woman borrowed a shovel and backed her car into her parents' home garage. Cell pings showed that Casey Anthony was at or near her parents' home between 2:30 and 3:30 p.m.

And after 28 minutes of cell phone silence, Casey Anthony's phone pinged an unusual spot -- along the Econ Trail located south of Lake Underhill, Local 6 reported.

It was again an area detectives in which were interested and and asked EquuSearch volunteers to search, Local 6 reported.

Investigators first subpoenaed Casey Anthony's cell phone records the day after she was arrested in July and have been analyzing them ever since.

http://www.local6.com/news/17684865/detail.html

 

[TURBOTHINK]

Map for June 17, 2008 - Just the Pings, will add houses later

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=e...8.543513,-81.276169&spn=0.266004,0.43396&z=11

That one behind UFC campus is interesting. I am assuming that is the campus area right?

 

[TURBOTHINK]

I agree, but I also think the dumping may have even been morning of the 27th......either that or KC may have made a short trip to spot to see if anyone was around.

I think late the 26 or the 27 early. Could she have "slipped" Tony's jeep out while he was asleep? Then to cover it, returned it and called him from Amscot?

 

[TURBOTHINK]

Just thinking...my 2 possible thoughts are, imo, did Casey dig up Caylee from the Anthonys on the 17th, 18th and then did she dump her right away, or drive around until around the 27th with the body in the trunk?

OR...did she dig her up later and dispose of her on the 26th/27th ...I doubt she would have left her in the Anthony backyard for long...so, the first scenario seems more plausible to me.

SO...if the incident happened on the 16th, and at the Anthonys she was placed...on the 17 or 18 she was removed...I DON'T think she drove around town for 11 days with a body in the trunk...but I do think she would have scoped a place to put Caylee before lugging the body around to find one...

So, long story short, maybe finding a repeat visit ping area, possibly between the 16th and the 18th could be helpful...once, for Casey to find the place...and once to bring Caylee. Just a few thoughts...

The flies in the trunk when GA opened it tell the story. Here is another post I posted about them.

A little on Entomology as I know it. Don't take it as gospel, but I believe it to accurate.

The arrival of insects in an outdoor location is inevitable and almost immediate. The progression of these events is more or less predictable. Investigators use them to determine the amount of time passed since death. It is called the post-mortem interval or PMI.

Flies will begin colonizing the orifices and any wounds present. The egg laying sends a strong signal to other flies in the area so a body can be swarmed quickly if not covered. Eggs are deposited continuously, producing varying stages and ages present at the same time. The most important specimen collected is the oldest life stage present on the body. ***(If GA had called LE when he opened the trunk and the flies came out, they could most likely have determined how long Caylee had been dead.)

This specimen acts as a stop watch so to speak that began ticking the moment the first egg was deposited on the body. If you have the local weather information and temperatures it can closely be determined the PMI.

The life cycle of the blow fly begins with the egg laying. The egg then turns into an immature fly or maggot, which hatched from the egg. It sheds it's skin three times during that stage each larger than the last. Then it stops feeding and moves several feet away from the corpse. Then it changes into the adult stage. This is also the same with a house fly, but what is known here is the blow fly or flesh fly which are in the same group but not the same exactly the same as a house fly.

The life cycle depends upon the temperature and they require a certain number of "degree hours" or "degree days" for the larvae to develop. It is somewhat complicated but any day about 50 degrees counts toward the degree days. Ex: @70 F degrees the eggs will hatch into larvae in about 12 hours. The larvae will pupate about 12 DAYS after that and adult flies will emerge after about 8 more days. At that temp, the complete cycle would take 3 weeks at a constant temp of 70 F. If there are higher temperatures (or lower ones) or if there are drugs or poisons in the body it will affect the rate. Ex: cocaine will speed up the process; but barbiturates or poison will slow it down.

The flies which came out of that car would have to have been at least 22 days old if my calculations are close. I don't have the exact temps so it could be a little less if it was real hot, but it also could have been more if there had been a lot of cool days.

I hope this makes sense.

If Caylee was buried in the back yard for a while then moved which I believe, the flies would have a full cycle and there would have most likely been larvae in that trunk and in that garbage bag for LE to test. They not only can get DNA evidence from larvae (they were feeding on the body), but even drugs used on the body prior to death.

 

[QuietStorm]

I'm an idiot and I don't know how to reference or hotlink other threads here. Tell me how to post a link to an older thread and/or its exact reference and I'll show you the picture/s. Its in the Sawgrass residence speaks out (paraphrased) thread. My pictures were posted by PinkPanther. The picture of the access to Lake Tennessee is one of them. I just don't know how to post a link to that reply/post. Duh! I guess I could go to that thread and bump it up?

I just go there and look, thanks!

 

[QuietStorm]

Interesting.....That address is in the same office park where Cindy works.

Do you know who she works for? It might be a back number to her office. If you don't want to post it you can PM me. Thanks!

 

[ijam]

CA works at Gentiva

 

[TxRose]

Forgive me for asking what may have been asked before...but this thread is so long and massive I can't possibly catch up!
The pings being mapped out represent the location of the cell towers that picked up Casey's phone - is that correct? They do not represent an exact location of the phone....just the tower nearest her location.

I thought I read somewhere that with newer phones now that they could use GPS to pinpoint the location of the phone as well. At least phones with the "location on" feature. I am not sure if that is correct, or if Casey even had that feature. I was just posing the question to those of you more knowledgeable than me on this!

 

[Pink Panther]

Forgive me for asking what may have been asked before...but this thread is so long and massive I can't possibly catch up!
The pings being mapped out represent the location of the cell towers that picked up Casey's phone - is that correct? They do not represent an exact location of the phone....just the tower nearest her location.

I thought I read somewhere that with newer phones now that they could use GPS to pinpoint the location of the phone as well. At least phones with the "location on" feature. I am not sure if that is correct, or if Casey even had that feature. I was just posing the question to those of you more knowledgeable than me on this!

Yes. You what you are saying is correct. What has been released is PINGS to the cell towers that were closest to her and that picked up on her cell signals. LE has access to much more. They can determine to a greater degree WHERE she was. That's what I understand so far anyway.

MOO

 

[QuietStorm]

Forgive me for asking what may have been asked before...but this thread is so long and massive I can't possibly catch up!
The pings being mapped out represent the location of the cell towers that picked up Casey's phone - is that correct? They do not represent an exact location of the phone....just the tower nearest her location.

I thought I read somewhere that with newer phones now that they could use GPS to pinpoint the location of the phone as well. At least phones with the "location on" feature. I am not sure if that is correct, or if Casey even had that feature. I was just posing the question to those of you more knowledgeable than me on this!

From what I've read on this forum and in the news, the ping lists that were made public show the latitude and longitude of the tower being used for the call on the report, not where the phone was. LE could have another report showing the exact location of the phone. We are not sure about that. It would be very interesting indeed to read that report, IMO.

 

[BondJamesBond]

I'm an idiot and I don't know how to reference or hotlink other threads here. Tell me how to post a link to an older thread and/or its exact reference and I'll show you the picture/s. Its in the Sawgrass residence speaks out (paraphrased) thread. My pictures were posted by PinkPanther. The picture of the access to Lake Tennessee is one of them. I just don't know how to post a link to that reply/post. Duh! I guess I could go to that thread and bump it up?

Hey, Theonly1.

1) Find the post you want to link to. If you know the thread it is on and who posted it (e.g. yourself) you can goto the thread then use the Search feature=>Advanced and enter the posters ID, then look @ the results to find the one you're interested in. You can also use the advance search to enter a unique word that might be in the post your seeking. Or you can use the brute force method and just find the post.
2) In the upper right-hand corner of each post there is a post#. Selecting that post# will open the post in a new window and provide you with the link in the browser address window.
3) Just copy the address from the browser address window and goto the new post where you want to insert the link and paste it in when you're ready.

Hope that helps.

 

[Pink Panther]

Hey, Theonly1.

1) Find the post you want to link to. If you know the thread it is on and who posted it (e.g. yourself) you can goto the thread then use the Search feature=>Advanced and enter the posters ID, then look @ the results to find the one you're interested in. You can also use the advance search to enter a unique word that might be in the post your seeking. Or you can use the brute force method and just find the post.
2) In the upper right-hand corner of each post there is a post#. Selecting that post# will open the post in a new window and provide you with the link in the browser address window.
3) Just copy the address from the browser address window and goto the new post where you want to insert the link and paste it in when you're ready.

Hope that helps.

Bond - We've posted the pic that she wanted to post. Go back a couple of pages on this thread and you will see it! Did I tell you...I like you Bond! Your positive approach and analytic point of view are my kind of thing!

:crazy:

 

[TxRose]

Yes. You what you are saying is correct. What has been released is PINGS to the cell towers that were closest to her and that picked up on her cell signals. LE has access to much more. They can determine to a greater degree WHERE she was. That's what I understand so far anyway.

MOO

Ok - thanks to you and QuietStorm for the reply. That was what I understood to be the case, but just wanted it confirmed! I am sure LE has much more info that has not been released. I know I have read that signals can be triagulated and multiple towers can even be used to determine the direction and speed the person was traveling if needed.

You can tell from looking at the Google maps that the Lon/Lat coordinates give you a place that seems very weird for a car to be. But then again, who knows with Casey. She didn't seem to have any real place to go much of the time.

 

[BondJamesBond]

Bond - We've posted the pic that she wanted to post. Go back a couple of pages on this thread and you will see it!

Yeh...touche! I thought I saw it, but, figured a little 101 wouldn't hurt.

Did I tell you...I like you Bond! Your positive approach and analytic point of view are my kind of thing!

Guess we're charter members of the WS Mutual Admiration Society, then, eh? Pink. Gotta go get to work on that secret handshake. :detective:

I've been effectively sidelined for the past week, just trying to keep from falling completely behind on the case. FYI...just read on the "TES back..." thread that Yuri was pulled from the case...blogging cited. I dunno how credible that is...like I said...just tryin' to keep up.

I know to come right here and catch Pink, QuietStorm, GeorgiaPI, etc. for the real deal...keep up the great work! IF Yuri is on the bench OSCO may just be ringing one of you up soon!!!:clap: