Amanda Knox found guilty for the murder of Meredith Kercher in Italy #15

[aa9511]

Where is the evidence of blood drops leading out of the apartment from this knife? Are there any drops? How do we know this knife is "the" knife?

IIRC, the coroner said the knife found in RS's kitchen didn't match either the wounds or the knife imprint found in the room. If that is incorrect can someone please link me to where it says it did match the wounds and knife imprint?

Exactly, where is the evidence? There is no evidence. Wouldn't Rudy have had a dripping knife, also? Remember, Rudy is the killer in the lone-wolf theory. Somebody stabbed Meredith with a knife or knives. So where is the evidence of blood drops leading out of the apartment from the knife which Rudy stabbed her with?

 

[quesarita]

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<modsnip> I see it as evidence that 47 prints were collected from the scene but not shown on the map, making the conclusion likely that large areas of the flat were "completely wiped clean of prints", which is apparently not the case .

 

[Myvice]

Where did this blood drip? It had to have started in MK's room. Was it on anything? On a piece of MK's clothing? On a sheet or bedspread? One blood drop in a sink doesn't show anything about where the injury occurred or even if it occurred at the time of the murder. It has to link up to something in that murder room (BR) since that's where the attack occurred.

Since AK's clothes aren't there (as well as RS's & RG's) we have no idea where else her blood drops may be.

AK herself said that her blood drop wasn't there the day of the murder. When else might it have happened between the day of the murder and the day after?

As far as the knife dripping blood? You don't think they would have wiped it down before leaving the house with it?

 

[Madeleine74]

Exactly, where is the evidence? There is no evidence. Wouldn't Rudy have had a dripping knife, also? Remember, Rudy is the killer in the lone-wolf theory. Somebody stabbed Meredith with a knife or knives. So where is the evidence of blood drops leading out of the apartment from the knife which Rudy stabbed her with?

We know there is an imprint of a knife in that bedroom, made in MK's blood. That particular knife that made that particular imprint may not have been dripping after it was placed on the surface where the imprint then occurred. That imprint does not match the knife from RS's kitchen.

 

[Myvice]

We know there is an imprint of a knife in that bedroom, made in MK's blood. That particular knife that made that particular imprint may not have been dripping after it was placed on the surface where the imprint then occurred. That imprint does not match the knife from RS's kitchen.

That has been disputed. Look a couple threads back.

 

[LinasK]

I think she and Sollecito did it now. Perhaps I will change my mind in a few days. This case is confusing to me and I am not sure what to think most of the time because I think, in my heart, I know there is a possibility that they did not do it, but as of now, I think they are guilty. She should have never left Italy. I will get back to you all in a few days, maybe a week, and I will see if I have changed my mind again.

Welcome to the Dark Side, we have Pie!

 

[Jessica2012]

Well, the explanation she gave was it came from one of her ears. If you look at the photos from that day she does have one missing on her left ear. I guess this would make sense if one was pulled through during the struggle or something but I find it hard to believe an infected ear alone would bleed to the point of leaving droplets.

On the other had I've always thought it was from a bloody nose. JMO

I read a theory in the very beginning about a missing earring and that AK and RS had possibly come back to look for it? I have no idea where I read this because it was so long ago but has anyone heard of this?

 

[Myvice]

I read a theory in the very beginning about a missing earring and that AK and RS had possibly come back to look for it? I have no idea where I read this because it was so long ago but has anyone heard of this?

I hadn't heard that but I've only been following a few months. It sure would answer the question of why AK's lamp was on the floor though, wouldn't it?

 

[SMK]

From this Google Translation, it would seem they have voted to investigate Florence Appeals Judge Nencini:

The unanimous decision
Meredith, CSM Commission calls for the opening of a practice on the court Nencini

At the heart of the practice, the statements that the magistrate in an interview a few hours after a conviction for Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito, and thus prior to the filing of the written judgment. Same request had reached even by lay judges of the center of the Palace of the Marshals. But Nencini defends

http://www.rainews.it/dl/rainews/ar...3-9abc-64b0ed43b34c.html#sthash.8HPhrBbs.dpuf

 

[LinasK]

The evidence in this case pointed Rudy Guede. His handprint and shoe prints in blood next to the victim along with his DNA on and inside the victim.

The evedence also shows that Meredith died shortly arfter arriving home a few minutes after 9 pm. She was still wearing her jacket from the walk home. She had not tried calling her mother again after the failed call at 8:56 pm. She had not unloaded the clothes in the washing machine. And the meal she ate around 6:30 pm had not yet started to pass from her stomach.

Amanda and Raffaelle were a half kilometer away when Meredith died. The evidence from Raffaelle's computer shows the movie file Amalie being manually closed at 9:10 pm and a short video being started at 9:24. An internal log in his computer showed the screensaver only kicked in for short periods until 6:30 am.

The investigators mistake was picking a suspect before analyzing the evidence and then trying to force the evidence to fit that suspect.

The strongest evidence pointed to Rudy, but not all of it. Clearly they lied and were there in the apartment, and participated. They were both convicted and are GUILTY. Rude was no "lone wolf"!!!

 

[aa9511]

We know there is an imprint of a knife in that bedroom, made in MK's blood. That particular knife that made that particular imprint may not have been dripping after it was placed on the surface where the imprint then occurred. That imprint does not match the knife from RS's kitchen.

Otto did a very good analysis which he posted where the outline of the knife clearly matched the imprint on RS's knife.

The handle of the knife in the imprint is not shown on the imprint. So if you are saying that it doesnt match because you think that RS's knife is too long, then you cannot really say that it doesn't match either, because there is no way to tell, because the entire handle end of the knife is missing in the imprint. So we cannot determine what the length of the knife used for the imprint actually was.

From the part of the imprint that is there, you can match RS's knife with the outline and see that it matches with the outline, which is the only thing we can do with that imprint. Since it's incomplete, it does not really tell us that much except for the outline of the blade.

 

[Jessica2012]

I hadn't heard that but I've only been following a few months. It sure would answer the question of why AK's lamp was on the floor though, wouldn't it?

Yes, I remember reading one theory about the lamp was that they were looking for a missing earring.

 

[Myvice]

From this Google Translation, it would seem they have voted to investigate Florence Appeals Judge Nencini:


http://www.rainews.it/dl/rainews/ar...3-9abc-64b0ed43b34c.html#sthash.8HPhrBbs.dpuf

Dang, wish I could read this. Does it give a timeframe for a hearing or anything?

 

[Jessica2012]

Where did this blood drip? It had to have started in MK's room. Was it on anything? On a piece of MK's clothing? On a sheet or bedspread? One blood drop in a sink doesn't show anything about where the injury occurred or even if it occurred at the time of the murder. It has to link up to something in that murder room (BR) since that's where the attack occurred.

It was actually not just one drop of blood. AK'S blood was said to have been found mingled with Meredith's in many places.

http://truejustice.org/ee/index.php...e_seemingly_insuperable_mixed_blood_evidence/

 

[aa9511]

I read a theory in the very beginning about a missing earring and that AK and RS had possibly come back to look for it? I have no idea where I read this because it was so long ago but has anyone heard of this?

I think just last week this was discussed on this thread, maybe by Otto? Someone said that they thought she was missing an earring....is it from the photo of Amanda and RS waiting outside on day of discovery? I remember a picture of her ears was shown and it was debated whether her ears looked inflamed like they would have bled. Perhaps she is missing an earring from that photo?

 

[Harmony 2]

I just saw this and as a VERY big pothead back in the day had to comment.

I was a major party girl for many years.....so much so that it really affected my life.....I had lots of blackouts after drinking alcohol, but they were big nights and if they were that blind (what we call it here, or paraletic, don't know if you call it the same in the US) they would be noticeably drunk....

Never ever had a blackout smoking pot......nor anyone I know....... the two combined they would still have had to be pretty drunk to have a blackout.....

I can understand not remembering little details and exact times etc, that is most definitely likely...................However I have just reread "Death in Perugia"........finished it last night..............and according to Amanda, her memory of the night came back to her in jail when she was speaking to her mother...........it all came flooding back and she remembered that she wasn't there!!!! I find that very hard to believe.

I do have one question and I apologize if this has been discussed, but I have only really just become interested in this case....

Amanda said that in the morning she went back to her house to have a shower, get a change of clothes and get a mop as RS had spilt water on his kitchen floor......................can anyone tell me, was the mop found and if so examined???? that would be the mop that they cleaned up with and took back to RS's, and I suppose the mop mentioned to cover any tracks of missing mops etc....

IIRC, the mop was tested and nothing was found on it... no blood - nada...

 

[Harmony 2]

It was actually not just one drop of blood. AK'S blood was said to have been found mingled with Meredith's in many places.

http://truejustice.org/ee/index.php

I don't think the last statement is accurate... can you link to a court document that states that? tia

 

[SMK]

Dang, wish I could read this. Does it give a timeframe for a hearing or anything?

Here is the Google Translation:

The unanimous decision
Meredith, CSM Commission calls for the opening of a practice on the court Nencini

At the heart of the practice, the statements that the magistrate in an interview a few hours after a conviction for Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito, and thus prior to the filing of the written judgment. Same request had reached even by lay judges of the center of the Palace of the Marshals. But Nencini defends

http://www.rainews.it/dl/rainews/ar...3-9abc-64b0ed43b34c.html#sthash.8HPhrBbs.dpuf

Google Full Translation:
Rome
February 3, 2014
The First Board of the Higher Council of the Judiciary unanimously decided to ask the Executive Committee to open a practice on the judge Alessandro Nencini, President of the Court of Assizes of Appeal of Florence, which has given last Thursday, the ruling of conviction for the murder of Meredith Kercher. At the heart of the practice, the statements that Nencini in an interview published in the newspaper last Saturday, a few hours after a conviction for Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito, and therefore before the filing of the written judgment.

Lay people in the center of the Palace of the Marshals (with the exception of Hannibal Marini), have prepared a document calling for the opening of a case to determine whether there are grounds for initiating a process of transferring Office for incompatibility. then will the Executive Committee, whose next meeting is scheduled for Wednesday morning, before the plenum, to decide whether to authorize the opening of the file with the transmission of documents to the First Commission.

L'exposed Sollecito's defense on the interview of the judge the defense of Raffaele Sollecito will present a complaint against the judge Alessandro Nencini for interviews after a judgment of the appeal.

The lawyers will turn to the CSM, the Attorney General at the Supreme Court and the Ministry of Justice, considering that the interview has violated the Chamber of counsel and that the words of Nencini have highlighted a "prejudice" against the young.

Judge Nencini defends In the morning, the magistrate had defended himself saying that he intended only to clarify the rumors in the Council Chamber. Nencini stated that it had accidentally met some journalists in the corridors of the Palace of Justice that would have reported of rumors and speculation over the duration of the Chamber of counsel.

"I had a brief conversation with their intended, in my intentions, to clarify possible misunderstandings - has said the judge - Of this I take responsibility, reaffirming that I did not in any way intended to anticipate the reasons for the sentence. In particular, I have not expressed any opinion on the trial strategy of the defense of the accused. Indeed the only reference, however, reported in the article appeared in the Messenger, is one in which I stated that the accused were defended in the process as 'very high level'. " From here further clarification Nencini: "If my words generated misunderstandings on this point and on the absolute legality of the choice of an accused to make spontaneous statements I regret it. These details were dutiful to the respect I owe to the people who participated in the process with me and I am proud to belong to the Order, as well as for consistency with my professional history, with over thirty years of work done without reflectors and without interviews. "

- See more at: http://www.rainews.it/dl/rainews/ar...b0ed43b34c.html#sthash.8HPhrBbs.dNeqrOQX.dpuf

 

[TorisMom003]

It was actually not just one drop of blood. AK'S blood was said to have been found mingled with Meredith's in many places.

http://truejustice.org/ee/index.php

According to that link, it was not Amanda's blood mixed with Meredith's blood. It was Amanda's DNA mixed with Meredith's blood.

 

[Harmony 2]

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