GUILTY AR - Jersey Bridgeman, 6, raped & murdered, Bentonville, 20 Nov 2012 #1

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Abby Normal Again said:
And I just want to point out that her mother was the little girl not that long ago. Statistically her children are likely to repeat many of the same mistakes she makes. I recognize that we all have adult obligations and must rise to them, but where is the cut off for compassion? At what point do we stop feeling compassion for a child's experience and start feel animosity for the obvious results of a child's upbringing?

I came out a world like that. I went to school, and now I work a professional job and live a far more socially acceptable life. I understand that people can rise above what they were taught, because I did it. I just also have the humility to realize that not everyone finds their way. Not everyone has the teacher who reached out, the foster parent who actually bonded with them, or the parent who had a vision (too late for themselves) but who told their children they could reach it. And more and more parents are advocating against the discussion of moral/personal issues in our schools on the basis that THEIR kids don't need it... without accounting for all the kids who do. And people get trapped in a cycle. Often times cementing themselves into it with teen pregnancy, crime and similar situations long before they have the maturity to consider another path.

It's just not as simple as blaming parents for not making better choices, I don't think.

ETA- In case it is not obvious, I'm not speaking about parents who commit hurtful crimes. I just mean immature decisions, not making the best friends, and similar decisions that seem trivial until something bad happens.
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Very beautifully said, Abby. It's a shame that what you wrote above can't be put in every textbook, and said in every church/temple/synagogue. I'm sure there are kids who are perhaps a bit older than Jersey who wake up in the mornings and wonder if the life their parents & parents' friends live will be the life "I" have to live, too.

Sometimes athletic or artistic/musical/creative talent may take them out of it, but that's just perhaps 1% of them -- those with upper-level talent -- and even then it takes someone to step up and help the child see and move toward and start to realize the dream. Sometimes some parents -- and it's usually the mother or grandmother -- have such limited choices due to so many things...
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Thanks, Abby.
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Dr. Know? said:
I hope to hear his wife or Jersey's mom turned his azz in! Or BT?

I so hope so that one of them did. If not, it could shock them terribly.
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I've been wondering ever since the arrest news broke, Doc -- might DesaRae have been suspicious?

Something made LE look at him early on -- don't you think?
 
I saw photos of him standing outside in his bathrobe and hat and it seemed he was listening to what the LE outside were discussing -- but since they were actively searching his property I suppose being outside isn't suspicious. I seriously think it was forensic that nailed him. Fingerprints at the vacant house or fibers from his clothes, house, etc. He sure was in alot of photos during the crime scene investigation and I wonder if that stood out to LE too--he sure seemed to stand out to the media taking the pictures.
 
borndem said:
I've been wondering ever since the arrest news broke, Doc -- might DesaRae have been suspicious?

Something made LE look at him early on -- don't you think?
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How about just the fact that he was a freak, married to a known criminal, who who lived right between Jersey's house and her very nearby murder site?

I bet there was meth in that trailer.
 
I think the reference is to possible LE suspicions of Jersey's moms relatively new BF who was proclaiming his deep affection for his two "girls" in fb entries just before Jersey's murder.
 
tlcox said:
I think the reference is to possible LE suspicions of Jersey's moms relatively new BF who was proclaiming his deep affection for his two "girls" in fb entries just before Jersey's murder.
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What? You mean Country Girl's and borndem's posts? Are you sure? Am I all confused? :waitasec:
 
Anyone know why ZH's last name is Holly if his father is JB? Or was JB his former stepfather? So confused with all the names.
 
Neighbors: Ark. man arrested in girl's death cried

BENTONVILLE, Ark. (AP) — An Arkansas man accused of killing a 6-year-old girl who lived next door cried the day her body was found in a nearby vacant home, neighbors said Tuesday.
 
Abby Normal Again said:
So her AND his dad are RSO? Wow.

I had caught that his dad was, just not both.
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"Her" who?? I think you're confused. Z Holly's father/step-father (whatever) is a registered sex offender. Nothing about anyone else mentioned.
 
Does anyone else have a horrible feeling that his juvenile crime was a sex offense? The one for parole violation in 2000? (Although I have a feeling it was a probation violation, as media tends to get parole/probation confused). He wouldn't have to register as a sex offender since the crime was when he was a juvenile.
 
JustPeachy said:
She hasn't deleted her wedding pictures from FB yet.
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Holly's wife will most likely keep those pics up. I don't think she gets all gussied up that often

I don't think she was involved in the murder. She most likely cooperated with LE too, even if reluctantly. The day the reporter talked to her on video I'm sure she knew the police had nearly solved the case with her newlywed husband killing her best friends child. Probably not a good day for her. To bad she didnt have the foresight to know she was soon going to be forced into the spotlight in a very negitive way. And used some time on camera to distance herself from her monster husband.

Certainly not an angel I know, but not a monster, I don't think
 
thesepoorchildren said:
Does anyone else have a horrible feeling that his juvenile crime was a sex offense? The one for parole violation in 2000? (Although I have a feeling it was a probation violation, as media tends to get parole/probation confused). He wouldn't have to register as a sex offender since the crime was when he was a juvenile.
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Even if he was a juvenile at the time, he'd have to register if he was convicted of any kind of sexual abuse. I've seen offenders whose only conviction listed was when they were as young as 8-9 years old.

ETA: I just hope her son wasn't another victim of any kind of abuse from him.
 
BBM
Confusion said:
Even if he was a juvenile at the time, he'd have to register if he was convicted of any kind of sexual abuse. I've seen offenders whose only conviction listed was when they were as young as 8-9 years old.

ETA: I just hope her son wasn't another victim of any kind of abuse from him.
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I've been hoping the same.
 
Confusion said:
Even if he was a juvenile at the time, he'd have to register if he was convicted of any kind of sexual abuse. I've seen offenders whose only conviction listed was when they were as young as 8-9 years old.

ETA: I just hope her son wasn't another victim of any kind of abuse from him.
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I don't believe that's true in Arkansas.
20 states have instituted special juvenile procedures and/or age limits that can terminate a juvenile’s duty to register after a certain point in time following their adjudication. These laws provide the opportunity for relief from registration requirements in certain circumstances after juveniles reach adulthood (i.e., ranging from 18–21 years of age).32

Alabama
Arkansas
Arizona
Colorado
Idaho
Illinois
Indiana
Minnesota
Mississippi
Ohio

Oklahoma
Oregon
Nevada
New Jersey
North Carolina
Rhode Island
South Carolina
South Dakota
Texas
Washington

Other information. In most cases I know of they are not required to in this state. http://www.wcl.american.edu/endsile...ffenderRegistrationStatutes_FINALSept2009.pdf
 
Other link isn't letting me copy and paste. Look under Arkansas. It shows its up to the judge in each case.
 
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