Arizona girl, 2, left in car by father on 109-degree day and is found dead

[Inthedetails]

It crossed my mind that perhaps he’d left the garage door open, but still he cannot be absolved.
Even if that would have spared her from a carbon monoxide death, WHO would even bother to put the groceries away BEFORE securing your baby in your home?
I’ll wager that there are at minimum one crib and one playpen in the house. He could’ve safely brought her indoors and placed her in either of those if he needed a few unencumbered minutes to unload groceries.
After. After his daughter was safe. After.

IMO

I'm fuming and offended at the utter lack of responsibility. How often stay-at-home parents are looked down upon as having an easy job. It is NOT easy to care for kids. It can be a tedious pain to unload groceries while also unloading children from the car and making sure they are safe and secure while you handle household tasks. It's a bother to try to get any chore done while also tending to a baby, toddler, or pre-schooler.

It's impossible to get everything accomplished at home some days, but the priority is always the safety of the kids....not playing video games while relying on "car alerts" to monitor a child left alone in a car.

jmo

 

[airportwoman]

He has been arrested quickly, IMO.
I wonder if his claim that both parents sometimes left their child asleep in the car in the garage is true, because I feel like his wife, as a doctor, would know that's too dangerous.

You'd be surprised what some ostensibly intelligent people are capable of believing.

 

[airportwoman]

My immediate thought was he was busy communicating with a side chick on the gaming system.

Or, for that matter, a side dude.

Or that he was actually watching (edited for content) non-child friendly content, NOT playing video games.

I haven't read all the stories, but ISTR that the two older children were not at home - maybe at camp or a summer program?

 

[iamshadow21]

Or, for that matter, a side dude.

Or that he was actually watching (edited for content) non-child friendly content, NOT playing video games.

I haven't read all the stories, but ISTR that the two older children were not at home - maybe at camp or a summer program?

Thank goodness, or we might be dealing with a higher body count.

MOO

 

[JerseyWasHome2]

I'm fuming and offended at the utter lack of responsibility. How often stay-at-home parents are looked down upon as having an easy job. It is NOT easy to care for kids. It can be a tedious pain to unload groceries while also unloading children from the car and making sure they are safe and secure while you handle household tasks. It's a bother to try to get any chore done while also tending to a baby, toddler, or pre-schooler.

It's impossible to get everything accomplished at home some days, but the priority is always the safety of the kids....not playing video games while relying on "car alerts" to monitor a child left alone in a car.

jmo

Has it been stated that he was definitely playing video games? There are two older kids in the home who could be the primary users of the device. Just curious.

 

[Seni]

Father could have lifted the girl out of the vehicle in her car seat and taken her indoors if he didnt want to wake her.

 

[Inthedetails]

Has it been stated that he was definitely playing video games? There are two older kids in the home who could be the primary users of the device. Just curious.

Honestly, I don't give a rip what he was doing.

Sorry to be so blunt.

jmo

 

[clorenc]

You don't need an alert from your car.....when you bring your baby in the house with you!!

Oh I am in no way suggesting anyone should rely on an alert like that, just wondering if he might be lying about it or not.

 

[Panniniclaus]

Oh I am in no way suggesting anyone should rely on an alert like that, just wondering if he might be lying about it or not.

I'd suggest he could be lying about many things. Hopefully they have his phone in addition to the IPAD and PS5.

 

[Inthedetails]

Oh I am in no way suggesting anyone should rely on an alert like that, just wondering if he might be lying about it or not.

Just to clarify, my remark was directed at the father, not to you!

jmo

 

[clorenc]

Not only does he admit that both he and his wife leave her in the car regularly, they ordinarily leave the car in the garage, parked and running?! Surely a Biochemist and a Doctor of Anesthesiology have heard of carbon monoxide poisoning, yes? You can even manage to kill people *in the house* leaving the car running in an attached garage, not just the poor toddler passenger in the car.

Another thing to consider (in terms of their stupidity) if they were relying solely on their vehicle's technology/ability to alert (their phone?) that the car had powered off or was too hot, what technology (if any) did they rely on to alert them that their toddler was awake, crying, hungry, thirsty, lonely or bored while in the vehicle alone and how would they know the length of time that was going on prior to their going to the car to retrieve her usually? Guess they just figured it didn't matter how long she cried or screamed before they would decide to check on her?

Are we even sure his claims that the car was powered on & a/c going when he left it but that it powered off at some point and it didn't alert him are true? Is it possible that

1. He received the alert (on his phone?) but was too preoccupied and didn't notice it/hear it?

2. He left her in the car but forgot to keep the car running/ac going?

If his claims are true, I really hope this case doesn't morph into an additional case of their suing the car manufacterer for the "faulty alert system" they relied on as a babysitter. The only thing worse than these 2 losing a toddler to their tragic laziness & stupidity would be if they profited off it too.

At first I thought, how dumb that cars shut off automatically, for emergency situations like this. What if someone were to accidentally lock a child or pet inside, and it takes a while to get help or break a window?

But then when looking up info about these features, I realized they’re probably in place to prevent carbon monoxide poisoning.

I wonder which way would save more lives.

 

[clorenc]

If his claims are true, I really hope this case doesn't morph into an additional case of their suing the car manufacterer for the "faulty alert system" they relied on as a babysitter. The only thing worse than these 2 losing a toddler to their tragic laziness & stupidity would be if they profited off it too.

Could statements like this one, from the MDX Owner’s Manual, legally absolve a manufacturer from responsibility or punishment?

https://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis//pubs/OM/AH/BTYA2323OM/enu/BTYA2323OM.PDF

 

[iamshadow21]

Could statements like this one, from the MDX Owner’s Manual, legally absolve a manufacturer from responsibility or punishment?

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https://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis//pubs/OM/AH/BTYA2323OM/enu/BTYA2323OM.PDF

I doubt they would be on the hook anyway, as it's child endangerment to leave your kid alone in a car like that whether there's a disclaimer in your car's fine print or not. The responsibility lies with the parent.

MOO

 

[Boots38]

This isn't a 'terrible mistake' this is an adult who CHOSE to leave his toddler in a hot car for what sounds like hours while he played video games. There's no 'mistake'.

May I ask for a link that says he was playing video games while his daughter was out in the car?

 

[Panniniclaus]

May I ask for a link that says he was playing video games while his daughter was out in the car?

There is no link.. they did leave the house with a PS5 so one has to think he said something about being on it.

 

[mickey2942]

Well, there seems to be a lot of information about this case that is unknown. But what is known, is that the father was the caregiver, parked the car in the garage, in Arizona, and the toddler was in the car from 12:45 until 4:00 pm, when her mother came home.

Arizona. Mic drop.

 

[iamshadow21]

Well, there seems to be a lot of information about this case that is unknown. But what is known, is that the father was the caregiver, parked the car in the garage, in Arizona, and the toddler was in the car from 12:45 until 4:00 pm, when her mother came home.

Arizona. Mic drop.

It wasn't even in the garage. It was in the driveway. In full sun. It's in the articles and you can see it in the photographs.

 

[mickey2942]

It wasn't even in the garage. It was in the driveway. In full sun. It's in the articles and you can see it in the photographs.

That is even worse. I am so done with these "tragedies". The child is dead. People seem to be more concerned with their cellphones than their children.

 

[BrownRice]

It wasn't even in the garage. It was in the driveway. In full sun. It's in the articles and you can see it in the photographs.

And I believe the garage door was shut because he entered thru the front door. Not that that helps her in the hot car, but you’d think he’d keep the garage open to pop out and check on her.

 

[iamshadow21]

And I believe the garage door was shut because he entered thru the front door. Not that that helps her in the hot car, but you’d think he’d keep the garage open to pop out and check on her.

Oh, but that would let all that nasty Arizona heat into the house, and he might be uncomfortable...