Armchair psych profile and personal background

[Sillybilly]

Now this is freakin' me out!
I have to admit, I totally brushed off the hints at conspiracy theories regarding this case...but now, it's having me wondering, big time!

FWIW, different Trudeau ... Lena T is not related to Justin T, and to my knowledge there have been no indications that LRM is involved in pedophilia or pedo rings.

JMO

 

[thedissent]

Now this is freakin' me out!
I have to admit, I totally brushed off the hints at conspiracy theories regarding this case...but now, it's having me wondering, big time!

Come on, guys. That link is filled with ludicrous and baseless claims, allegations, and accusations.

It's just as bad as most of LRM's own online rantings! --- making bizarre non-sequitor links between LRM, Canada Post, Lena Trudeau's public service renewal proposals, BAE systems, and a fricken plane crash in Indonesia? :notgood:

It also says *this* about Pierre Elliott Trudeau, a former Canadian PM:

Lena E. Trudeau... the apparent love child of the late, allegedly-extorted man-in-the-middle Pierre Elliott Trudeau, the former Canadian Prime Minister; her alleged bisexual mentor and possible biological father was the sponsor of serial acts of political corruption including abolition of Grand Jury rights in Canada in 1984 and extortion of Privy Councilors into adopting the creed of ‘Guild of Pig Farm Socialism’

Trudeau was a lot of things, but a "bisexual mentor" who committed "serial acts of political corruption" including "Pig Farm Socialism"?? Uhhhhh. WTF?

Anyways, the whole thing is about to be disproved given that the head wasn't mailed to anyone. It was buried in the park up the road from LRM.

Let's stay on track, and leave the loony toon ravings to LRM.

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

Back to my theory that this entire thing was completely pre-planned:

1. He had to have had packaging materials, destinations, mailing labels, postage planned in advance.

2. The 'Canada connection' - he obviously had a reason for the destinations he chose + Canada Day + it all started around our Victoria Day Holiday (24th May) + whatever I'm forgetting.

3. He had to have had *someone* in place to deliver the head on Canada Day.

4. He bought get-away plane tickets well in advance of the flight to Paris.

5. Now I'm waiting for the surprise on our Civic Holiday (6 August).

 

[thedissent]

I was reading some psychology studies last night/this morning and I found something interesting.

I MANY cases of overkill where there is personal/intense attack, the motive is often a grudge. Now, what could cause a grudge against Lin Jun + Canada?

- he was upset that he couldn't attend the prestigious Universities that Lin Jun attended?

- he is holding a grudge against Canada for offering/allowing our Universities to be attended by non-Canadian citizens?

- he resents our government for something (who's to know what)?

- he didn't "make it big" in Canada and Lin Jun had a promising future?

I really have no idea.....I just wanted to put this thought out there.

Maybe he's just plain nuts? :nuts:

I don't think LRM has any grudge. Did he need a grudge against the kittens he was torturing and killing before he decided to move onto humans?

We're trying to understand LRM as if he is a rational agent, like us, who is motivated for reasons of anger, revenge, or something else.

But LRM is not like us. He's a psychopath with obvious narcissistic tendencies and delusional self-regard who, like most psychopaths, has no capacity to empathize with his victims.

Psychopaths are prone to boredom, and they seek excitement in pushing social conventions, breaking laws, and pushing the boundaries. LRM, I think, loved the "cat and mouse" game he played after posting the kitten killing videos, where groups were pursuing him, but he was (until now) able to avoid any kind of legal ramifications for his animal cruelty. And he received online attention, which he was seeking, and excitement from breaking the rules and offending and pissing off so many people (psychopaths truly are society's ultimate trolls). And LRM lack of empathy, allowed him to carry out cruelty to animals in that most of us cannot even fathom in thought.

The murder of Jun Lin was simply an escalation, seeking even greater attention and excitement via the kill video. He used a similar methodology as his kitten killing videos, creating a "buzz" about the video before even making it, and actually taking steps to ensure that the kill video would actually be linked to him (but not before he was long gone from the country).

LRM's online rantings evidence hatred towards many disadvantaged members of society, including minorities and impoverished/homeless. But that, again, is part of the psychopath's psychology and lack of empathy.

 

[pannekoek]

<snipsnip>

I MANY cases of overkill where there is personal/intense attack, the motive is often a grudge. Now, what could cause a grudge against Lin Jun

IMHO, if LM really felt a personal grudge or hate against JL, he would have cut of his outer reproductive system part.

 

[Mozzmo]

LRM's online rantings evidence hatred towards many disadvantaged members of society, including minorities and impoverished/homeless. But that, again, is part of the psychopath's psychology and lack of empathy.

Interesting comment. I have not read all of LM's drivel that he's posted. I was unaware that he bashed the disadvantaged/minorities. Yes, its a lack of empathy but its also a total projection. This dude was a prostitute living in a hovel with a few designer clothes which he used to solicit men for his next meal/rent payment and to create "model photos" that propped up his utterly false internet footprint. He loathed himself but couldn't come to terms with it and sadly acted out his self-hatred on others. To me, this is not different then the married politician who adamantly opposes gay marriage and then secretly goes cruising gay parks for gay sex. Pathetic.

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

About a grudge again - I haven't watched the kitten videos and I never will. But I do have a good sense of what a psychopath is capable of doing.

So......why would he have a grudge against kittens? Let's look at what kittens represent:

Kittens = loveable, innocent, helpless, pure, adorable, people cuddle them and truly love them, harmless, cute, ........ all things he is not. They are the exact opposite of the way he sees himself. He did write....."When you look in the mirror" (or something to that effect).

:moo:

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

<snipsnip>


IMHO, if LM really felt a personal grudge or hate against JL, he would have cut of his outer reproductive system part.

Do we know that he didn't do this?

 

[dotr]

Perhaps LM was not railing against "the disadvantaged" but rather acting against what some may see, ( for better or worse) as Trudeau's legacy...
Maclean's Magazine "Too Asian" Controversy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Sierra20]

<snipsnip>


IMHO, if LM really felt a personal grudge or hate against JL, he would have cut of his outer reproductive system part.

This is a strange statement to make.
So in your opinion what does it mean when someone just cuts off the head, hands + feet of a person? :waitasec:

 

[pannekoek]

<knipknip>

But that, again, is part of the psychopath's psychology and lack of empathy.

The reward system in the brain of psychopaths also differs significantly from normal people. They produce excessive amounts of dopamine, it gives them a high. It can explain why they keep doing things, chasing the high, without thinking too much of the consequences. Like a drug addict in time they need/want more and escalate to get that high. Combine that with the inability to feel empathy, guilt etc and you get people like LM.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/03/100314150924.htm

 

[dotr]

http://www.torontolife.com/features/notes-scandal/
Notes on a Scandal
By David Hayes
Jan Wong’s explosive “pure laine” charge in her Dawson College piece ignited a firestorm

"Most of it was a well-reported reconstruction framed around a terrified Dawson College teacher whose son studied there. But about a quarter of the way in is a section comparing Gill to Marc Lepine (the half-Algerian Muslim who, in 1989, killed 14 women and wounded 13 others at the University of Montreal’s École Polytechnique) and to Valery Fabrikant (an engineering professor and Russian immigrant who killed four colleagues and wounded another at Concordia University in 1992). “What many outsiders don’t realize,” Wong wrote, “is how alienating the decades-long linguistic struggle has been in the once-cosmopolitan city. It hasn’t just taken a toll on long-time anglophones, it’s affected immigrants, too. To be sure, the shootings in all three cases were carried out by mentally disturbed individuals. But what is also true is that in all three cases, the perpetrator was not pure laine, the argot for a ‘pure’ francophone. Elsewhere, to talk of racial ‘purity’ is repugnant. Not in Quebec.”

The following morning, the story ran on the front page, under the headline “Get Under the Desk.” What happened next would soon have Wong, her editors and the Globe’s senior management ducking for cover themselves. Wong’s “pure laine” comment drew a firestorm of criticism, and the paper, in a misguided attempt at damage control, let one of its biggest-name writers take the fall".

 

[dotr]

About a grudge again - I haven't watched the kitten videos and I never will. But I do have a good sense of what a psychopath is capable of doing.

So......why would he have a grudge against kittens? Let's look at what kittens represent:

Kittens = loveable, innocent, helpless, pure, adorable, people cuddle them and truly love them, harmless, cute, ........ all things he is not. They are the exact opposite of the way he sees himself. He did write....."When you look in the mirror" (or something to that effect).

:moo:

Once upon a time, not too long ago and especially in rural areas, unwanted kittens were simply killed, (usually drowned). Maybe LM saw himself as a cute little kitten, but added his own sick sexual twist to the procedure. Funny, former colonel Russell Williams felt the opposite way about kittens... Hmm.

 

[Scientific]

There's a community at experience project (a website) that discussed the kitten murders. One person who posted there sounds a lot like Luka in his responses to the community post. His account has not been active since last month (doesn't give an exact date). Username is thwr. While the info on this user's profile does not always match with Luka some of his posts might give clues about Luka's psychology (if it really is him).

http://www.experienceproject.com/stories/Am-Ashamed-Of-Being-Human/1924988

 

[Sierra20]

There's a community at experience project (a website) that discussed the kitten murders. One person who posted there sounds a lot like Luka in his responses to the community post. His account has not been active since last month (doesn't give an exact date). Username is thwr. While the info on this user's profile does not always match with Luka some of his posts might give clues about Luka's psychology (if it really is him).

http://www.experienceproject.com/stories/Am-Ashamed-Of-Being-Human/1924988

It does sound like him and his member photo on the site is of random scenery, again very much like him...

 

[x_files]

It does sound like him and his member photo on the site is of random scenery, again very much like him...

I agree it is indeed him. Can't resist talking about himself and bragging. Notice he misspelled Caribbean again?

 

[thedissent]

There's a community at experience project (a website) that discussed the kitten murders. One person who posted there sounds a lot like Luka in his responses to the community post. His account has not been active since last month (doesn't give an exact date). Username is thwr. While the info on this user's profile does not always match with Luka some of his posts might give clues about Luka's psychology (if it really is him).

http://www.experienceproject.com/stories/Am-Ashamed-Of-Being-Human/1924988

lol. yeah, he's there as "thwr" or whatever. I've read enough of his online postings, that I can identify a LRM post among a bunch of anonymous ones.

Typical LRM: he implicates himself. And then offers some disinformation about his whereabouts, in order to throw off people pursuing him, while connecting him to other (in)famous people or things, in this case Homolka, I guess: "Luka is in Russia! But he married a serial killer years ago!!!"

 

[Scientific]

Since it sounded like it was him I read thwr's posts at experience project. His stories there seem like they might all be true, and not only describe feeling schizoid, but having experienced abuse, alcoholism, and depression. The one thing that would be off is his age. Thwr lists himself as being about 10 years older than Luka.

One interesting comment I found that he made to a post there, was about Chinese men he worked with. The comment seemed out of keeping with the post; it was racist sounding (how they smacked their lips when they ate). Elsewhere he talked about having been a college student in Michigan and about celebrating the day before Halloween where he grew up. Could Luka have attended college for a while? And do Canadians celebrate the day before Halloween? He also repeatedly mentioned being married and having children, and seemed to be interested in women. He sprinkles his writing with references to serial killers at times, as if they are on his mind a lot. And there are a couple of groups he added that have to do with serial killers.

 

[Donyale]

Looks like his messages. He even mentions going to 4chan!
http://www.experienceproject.com/stories/Want-Justice-For-The-Kitten-Fed-To-A-Python/1927491
Interesting to see that he was the one who would start a thread naming the cat killer. This is such a sick behaviour, it makes me believe that the killing and cruelty in itself isn't the climax for him.... I think that to LM the reward part is all the negative attention he gets afterwards. His actions have no purpose without an audience feedback, to me I don't think he even likes to kill, but he kept doing because of the reaction he received from the outside world. jmo

There's a community at experience project (a website) that discussed the kitten murders. One person who posted there sounds a lot like Luka in his responses to the community post. His account has not been active since last month (doesn't give an exact date). Username is thwr. While the info on this user's profile does not always match with Luka some of his posts might give clues about Luka's psychology (if it really is him).

http://www.experienceproject.com/stories/Am-Ashamed-Of-Being-Human/1924988

 

[pannekoek]

This is a strange statement to make.
So in your opinion what does it mean when someone just cuts off the head, hands + feet of a person? :waitasec:

I know it sounds weird but it actually does make sence. Men’s outer reproductive system is the ultimate cultural symbol of masculinity. Just think of guys saying about another guy that he’s a wuss, not a real man, they say he doesnt have balls or a small one. For most men their core identity is being a man. When a man feels deeply humiliated (enraged) by an other man, less man, it would make more sence that he cut of the other mans manhood, to restore his own sence of manlyness... cutting off other parts is less personal and has most likely to do with other motives...