*Arrest* Holly Bobo investigation- TBI press conference 5 March 2014

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I posted a quote this morning from Fox News that (Karen?) said something to the effect that "we don't have Holly back but we know that she is dead"

WOW That's a pretty bold statement. SHort of a body and/or crime scene....that leaves a confession maybe???
 
Just watched channel 5 news. Phil Williams got access to ZAs facebook page and on the day she disappeared he made an awful quote at 7:39 am about a stupid wh..... and then in dec 2013, while dressed in camo, he said "who am I hunting now"... when tne transcript comes out from the report, I'll try to post .. well i'll have to get on the deskstop to do it.

I'll post if no one else hasn't.
 
Not really. We will have to wait to see... They could have found clothes, pictures, a tooth, who knows. Also searching is, I guess, continuing at various locations.

ZA has not confessed. Someone said something to get LE onto his property.

People sometimes have the mistaken notion that you need a body and/or a crime scene to prove a crime has been committed. You do not... Various pieces can be missing, ie murder weapon, actual body, etc. even just hair fibers from Holly on a blanket in the trunk of a car can be damning evidence these days.
 
Well, that is a good question. That neighbor of Zach's said there was some kind of stalking of Holly at the coon hunt (which really sounds legit to me) but last night the family spokesman Kevin Bromley said Holly did not sing there, and that Karen did not attend. That totally contradicts what we have heard from others so far.

I thought I had a vid of Holly singing at the coon hunt, but I am at a loss to find it (no time) in the 805 files in the main archive.

I recall a video of her singing in church but I've never seen one at the coon hunt.

I also remember the video. But, all I have for an MSN is the portion of an article I kept to finish at a later time. I sometimes cut and paste to my tablet's sticky app articles to read offline.

I have an article from WBTV ....in which unfortunately the link no longer works since it was a few years ago.

Anyhow it mentions Holly singing at the coon hunt held to benefit St. Jude's.

PARSONS, TN (WSMV) -
<snipped>

Something about the Holly Bobo case, for many, just hurts. How can a beautiful, simple, small-town country girl with no real problems or big issues and studying to become a nurse just disappear without a trace?

Holly Bobo vanished from her family's Parsons, TN, home in Decatur County on April 13, 2011, and in a video clip she is seen singing at a coon hunt just one week before her abduction. What may have seemed like a day of harmless family fun was hardly that at all.
 
Not really. We will have to wait to see... They could have found clothes, pictures, a tooth, who knows. Also searching is, I guess, continuing at various locations.

ZA has not confessed. Someone said something to get LE onto his property.

People sometimes have the mistaken notion that you need a body and/or a crime scene to prove a crime has been committed. You do not... Various pieces can be missing, ie murder weapon, actual body, etc. even just hair fibers from Holly on a blanket in the trunk of a car can be damning evidence these days.

Sorry I tend to type as if I'm texting (incomplete sentences)...HORRIBLE habit. I agree and I wasn't implying that they couldn't convict without a body (but you can't 100% confirm death without one). It was more of a statement in response to what the quote said. If they don't have Holly....I wondered what info was provided to know that she was dead. Not his confession, but someone involved in the pearl theft that "confessed" to knowing what happened or heard him talk about it, etc....
 
Yes boys and girls, there IS a boogeyman, and this is what he looks like.

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So disturbing. I mean not even asking "what" am I looking for but "Who". He most definitely stalked her. IMO.
 
I believe if we look at the timeline of events regarding his late Jan or early Feb arrests, and the pearl fiasco (how did he escape being actually charged in that deal?) the home bust involving the gf's sister's brother where he showed up at the front door and said "these are stolen" then the gs's sister's assault then the gf saying she's just jealous then his arrest for assault then search warrants then the search then the arrest. Not sure the right order but it's all gotta be connected somehow. Not in Holly's killing, but where the house of cards start falling. JMO
 
New Daily Mail article I thought I would post it.

The mother of the 29-year-old man charged with killing missing nursing student Holly Bobo, says Bobo's mother Karen was her son's fourth grade teacher.
Zachary Adams was was officially charged with first-degree murder and especially aggravated kidnapping Wednesday, following a search of his property in Holladay, Tennessee over the weekend.
Authorities believe Adams is responsible for the disappearance of 20-year-old Holly Bobo, who was last seen being led into the woods behind her home with a man wearing all camouflage in April 2011.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-sons-fourth-grade-teacher.html#ixzz2vESr5pOp
 
conviction rate. There's actually a web site maintained by a former US Attorney that collects these cases.

http://www.nobodymurdercases.com/index.html

He has a PDF of 392 trials. http://www.nobodymurdercases.com/no_body2.pdf

No body cases have a long history:
This proposition was recognized as early as 1705. Early courts made this abundantly clear in the language of their rulings. "By the ‘corpus delicti’, subject of the crime, is not meant that the subject of the crime must be so extant as to fall under the senses; but that the loss sustained is felt and known. As for example: in the crime of murder, though the body cannot be reached, yet particular loss is known.” Captain Green’s Trial, 14 How. St. Tr. 1199 (Scot. Adm. 1705).
http://www.acsr.org.php5-19.dfw1-1.websitetestlink.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Legal-and-Investigative-stratigies-No-Homicide.pdf

I think in this case, the most important element is establishing the connection to Holly. In a lot of cases, it is a family member that is the perp. Here, it is not someone associated with her in any meaningful way so that factual connection has to be established. I think that is perhaps what they have finally found.

I haven't followed this case but have read a few articles the last few days and was pretty surprised that Adams was identified in various places as a suspect yet no action had been taken in all this time. Given his history it's hard to imagine LE overlooked him. So, it must have been they did not have probable cause to search until recently and the search must have produced results sufficient to connect him to Holly. It is actually not that hard to prove death in this type of no body case where there is factual evidence that someone was removed against their will, injured during the removal and has not appeared again for years.


I think it depends on the amount of blood found. I'm afraid they will need more for a conviction, IMO.
 
:seeya: Good Morning, Y'all !


I never thought Holly's case would be solved, but finally an arrest ! So there is HOPE that other cases will be solved as well !

Question:

Is there a Transcript of yesterday's Presser ? I listened LIVE but I was interrupted twice :banghead:


:please: Thoughts and Prayers to Holly's Family !

I still find it sad when people don't think a case will be solved if it isn't solved in the first month or two. There is a magnitude of "ducks" that need to be put into place before an arrest can be made in a case. We all need to be patient and have faith sometimes.
 
I can't wait to see Nancy Grace tonight. This all happened after her show went on air yesterday. She will have this guy tried, convicted, executed, and buried by the end of the show. I think she would have had people on death row for jaywalking if the law had allowed it back when she was a prosecutor.
 
IMO for LE to publicly state and charge Murder 1 something concrete was found in that house. Something that will hold up in Court. Something that absolutely proves Holly is deceased. What it is remains to be seen. IMO.
 
I can't wait to see Nancy Grace tonight. This all happened after her show went on air yesterday. She will have this guy tried, convicted, executed, and buried by the end of the show. I think she would have had people on death row for jaywalking if the law had allowed it back when she was a prosecutor.

LOL I don't recall her Stats but her conviction rate was high.
 
Sorry I tend to type as if I'm texting (incomplete sentences)...HORRIBLE habit. I agree and I wasn't implying that they couldn't convict without a body (but you can't 100% confirm death without one). It was more of a statement in response to what the quote said. If they don't have Holly....I wondered what info was provided to know that she was dead. Not his confession, but someone involved in the pearl theft that "confessed" to knowing what happened or heard him talk about it, etc....

Actually, I remember from Caylee Anthony, if they have a hair follicle, they can tell whether it came from a person that was alive or dead. Follicles are waxy,oily like. I don't know how long the DNA could be extracted from a hair follicle. If it was retrieved from the water in the well, it might not degrade very rapidly. Anybody know about hair follicles.
 
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