ARRESTED- Luka Rocco Magnotta:1st deg murder charge;INTERPOL alert #6

[GatsbyGrace]

While that sounds like the logical answer, and would be my first thought, but in reading various feedback related to his alleged escort work, he was not a good escort.

GatsbyGrace, if you can, you might want to edit your posting to exclude the link to the site you mentioned. I know you included the name of that site to make a point, but its a good idea to avoid directing folks to such places.

I just edited the name out, per your request, but for the record, the Rekers thing has been widely documented, in a Miami New Times article that was picked up internationally & subsequent AC360 multi-part report. I know this because it made the career of a journalist friend-of-a-friend.

Plus, I think we're all adults here & the site has been referred to multiple times on WS as an "anysite.com" for hiring male escorts.

 

[HastingsChi]

Well Bundy, Dahmer, Gacey etc....committed acts because they had a passion for it and they were smart enough to get away with it for quite a while. Magnotta did it strictly for the notoriety, he didn't have a passion for any of it, it was all strictly for the shock value.

The video itself shows that, a bunch of odd random acts thrown together, the sexual aspects are all fake and done just for show.

Having said that, if he was advertising the video before the murder did he already have a victim in mind? Or was it random from the standpoint of finding someone who would get together to party with him and who also had an apartment that could be used for a couple of days.

It would have to be a bit unsettling for any guys that had communicated with him about hook ups online, or came across him in clubs around that time.

Sonya, nice to see you back! Thank you for sharing that most interesting post.

You mentioned "Having said that, if he was advertising the video before the murder did he already have a victim in mind?"

From what we've uncovered:
- Early media reports referred to Mr Lin as a former boyfriend of Magnotta's who had recently ended their relationship.

- We have not uncovered anything that would indicate that there was or was not a relationship between the two men.

- The media outlets with a good track record of factual reporting this case have stopped reporting that there was a relationship between the two but they have no reported there was no relationship; gray area.

- There have been speculative items, in the form of CL posts from the week of the crime, which mention a strange film opportunity. We have not confirmed that either man made these posts.

- In interviews with media, Mr Lin's acquaintances or friends were unaware of any romantic relationship Mr Lin was having or had recently had. They were unaware of Magnotta.

If I am leaving anything out, I hope my fellow sleuths might help fill in the blanks.

 

[james62]

The 3 video's that the media are reporting to have been made whilst LM was on the run all imply someone is recording him. (PS As has been discussed we know these video's are old).

They can be seen here (from the group For Great Justice archived video's of LM): http://www.abproject.org/docs/movies_youtube/

luka saying hi to his fans.avi
luka at his condo.avi
Luka magnotta footage from summer.avi

If you look closely at the 3 video's. The way the camera moves etc, I really don't think anyone is recording him, he is implying someone is recording him.

The only video I have seen where there it is 100% that someone is recording him is in the python/kitten vid. A video was released after the killing of the kitten took place which shows a person recording LM petting the python, the camera is then passed to LM and he records that person petting the python. This other person has never been identified.

These videos are not new at all. I'm surprised to see the media reporting them as such.

My hunch is that in these videos he is filming himself.

 

[~n/t~]

Well Bundy, Dahmer, Gacey etc....committed acts because they had a passion for it and they were smart enough to get away with it for quite a while. Magnotta did it strictly for the notoriety, he didn't have a passion for any of it, it was all strictly for the shock value.

The video itself shows that, a bunch of odd random acts thrown together, the sexual aspects are all fake and done just for show.

Having said that, if he was advertising the video before the murder did he already have a victim in mind? Or was it random from the standpoint of finding someone who would get together to party with him and who also had an apartment that could be used for a couple of days.

It would have to be a bit unsettling for any guys that had communicated with him about hook ups online, or came across him in clubs around that time.

Considering LE is investigating other possible crimes by Magnotta, I think it's premature to say he did not have "passion for any of it".

He's alleged to have killed kittens and possibly other animals, he's alleged to have murdered and dismembered Jun Lin and there may be others we are not aware of.......yet.

No doubt they are investigating other crimes.

 

[HeinekenMan]

I haven't up for the past few days, and I'm a little confused. The video is old. Did the police say he uploaded it? IF so, are the police stupid or do they have some sort of confirmation that it was Magnotta and not some joker who uploaded the old video? I can deal with CNN get this stuff wrong, but I'm not sure I can handle the police making such a mistake.

Edit: Ah. I see that you've already addressed this. So it's just the media that is taking stupid pills. That's what I figured.

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

I'm going to pose a question here and I *know/feel* that I'll be lambasted by some for posing the question. That said, here it is:

WHY are there so many posts which give links to his ungodly past behaviours? We know he's sick, perverted, twisted, whatever you wish to call it. Shouldn't we be following what LE says now about him in the present moment rather than linking to his past online posts? To me, looking at his nude/modelling/escort/*advertiser censored*/etc. is a thing of the past. He's in prison waiting to return to Canada to face everything he's done.

I understand that we're 'sleuthing' this guy, but (to me) watching his past videos. etc. is kind of like voyeurism.

I suppose I'd rather leave all of that stuff to LE and move forward with his extradition to Canada and then his trial in Montreal (or whereever they hold the trial).

OK, go ahead.....bring it on!:bricks:

 

[HastingsChi]

lol I just noticed the National Post misspelled his name as "Meganotta"

Interesting because that immediately made me think of the MegaMan YouTube video which looks like a video game and features the Montreal Monster's avatar as a character...

 

[~n/t~]

I haven't up for the past few days, and I'm a little confused. The video is old. Did the police say he uploaded it? IF so, are the police stupid or do they have some sort of confirmation that it was Magnotta and not some joker who uploaded the old video? I can deal with CNN get this stuff wrong, but I'm not sure I can handle the police making such a mistake.

Read the police quote I posted a few minutes ago. They're not stupid.:seeya:

 

[james62]

I haven't seen any MSN reports that he has been questioned by the German police. The hard questioning may come after he arrives back in Canada. It is my understanding from MSN that Germany had its own particularily evil situation happen right after Eric was arrested and they have been focusing on that. Yes, the spotlight sort of dimmed on Eric after he was arrested. All moo of course.

My understanding is that he will not be questioned on the case until he gets to Canada. His current German lawyer is only there to advise him and make sure he is treated fairly as a 'suspect'. I also understand she has advised him not to speak about the case until he has a Canadian lawyer.

 

[HastingsChi]

I'm going to pose a question here and I *know/feel* that I'll be lambasted by some for posing the question. That said, here it is:

WHY are there so many posts which give links to his ungodly past behaviours? We know he's sick, perverted, twisted, whatever you wish to call it. Shouldn't we be following what LE says now about him in the present moment rather than linking to his past online posts? To me, looking at his nude/modelling/escort/*advertiser censored*/etc. is a thing of the past. He's in prison waiting to return to Canada to face everything he's done.

I understand that we're 'sleuthing' this guy, but (to me) watching his past videos. etc. is kind of like voyeurism.

I suppose I'd rather leave all of that stuff to LE and move forward with his extradition to Canada and then his trial in Montreal (or whereever they hold the trial).

OK, go ahead.....bring it on!:bricks:

I think that the reasoning behind sleuthing his past are two-fold:

1. We want to gain an understanding of what makes a monster a monster; Was there a time that he was normal? Can we identify a turning point in his life? Can we get inside his mind to help identify factual things/events which help make him tick which might help in preventing the next incarnation of a similar monster?

2. We want to understand how someone with no real life accomplishments was able to gain media attention / notoriety prior to the kitten videos. It is important to determine how Magnotta was able to have his various claims taken seriously by well-established media outlets whereas if you or I went to the same outlets with similar claims we might not get the time of day.

 

[~n/t~]

I think that the reasoning behind sleuthing his past are two-fold:

1. We want to gain an understanding of what makes a monster a monster; Was there a time that he was normal? Can we identify a turning point in his life? Can we get inside his mind to help identify factual things/events which help make him tick which might help in preventing the next incarnation of a similar monster?

2. We want to understand how someone with no real life accomplishments was able to gain media attention / notoriety prior to the kitten videos. It is important to determine how Magnotta was able to have his various claims taken seriously by well-established media outlets whereas if you or I went to the same outlets with similar claims we might not get the time of day.

Well established media outlets?

Correct me if I'm wrong but one was The Sun in the UK and the other Naked News or something like that?

The Sun in the UK is tabloid. Never heard of the Naked News ever until this case.

 

[Dushi]

Well established media outlets?

Correct me if I'm wrong but one was The Sun in the UK and the other Naked News or something like that?

The Sun in the UK is tabloid. Never heard of the Naked News ever until this case.

Is this "The Naked News"????

http://www.nakednews.com/

 

[Sonya610]

Sonya, nice to see you back! Thank you for sharing that most interesting post.

- The media outlets with a good track record of factual reporting this case have stopped reporting that there was a relationship between the two but they have no reported there was no relationship; gray area.

I was out of town for a few days and couldn't begin to catch up on this thread. To make matters worse so many of the posts are NOT discussing/speculating on the facts of the case they are making judgement calls (or worse) about other posters as well as those that choose to view material on perfectly legal websites.

This "dark web" stuff is silly. There have always been websites and chat channels devoted to all of these topics, they aren't "hidden" and they aren't illegal (in most countries).

I would guess he met the victim online. Wonder if either had gaydar profiles? That seems to be the most popular hook up site and I would expect that Magnotta would have a profile on there. I don't plan to look for their profiles, if anyone does be warned while the site is safe and legit it does NOT not cater to prudish individuals.

 

[~n/t~]

Is this "The Naked News"????

http://www.nakednews.com/

Yes I think so. They did an interview with him. The one we've already seen posted over and over. lol

 

[HastingsChi]

Yes I think so. They did an interview with him. The one we've already seen posted over and over. lol

The link to the Naked News video is on the previous thread, I posted it on Monday afternoon.

 

[bluelena69]

removing

 

[HastingsChi]

Well established media outlets?

Correct me if I'm wrong but one was The Sun in the UK and the other Naked News or something like that?

The Sun in the UK is tabloid. Never heard of the Naked News ever until this case.

Both the Sun and Naked News are well-established/well-known media outlets. But there were a bunch of Canadian MSM that featured him prior to and in conjunction with the KH claim as well. Whereas someone's blog, social media site, the examiner (in its current form, not the old San Francisco Examiner) or associated content are not what I'd call well-established media outlets. Again, focusing on pre-kitten videos media mentions.

 

[Surfingsunflower]

Speaking of the timeline, as I continue to develop a piece for the timeline focused on Magnotta in the Media priorv to the kitten videos, might anyone have found or know of any media appearances prior to the Naked News interview in early 2007 (pre-KH claim)???

That information would be most helpful!

Thanks and good morning; Happy Thursday!

I just went through nearly all the back issues of FAB magazine as I had read that he was in the magazine as a 'Fab Boy in 2005, after trapesing through many issues, I found it.....it's issue number 260 and here is a link to the page on 'Jimmy' then aged 22,

"Jimmy
This 22-year-old soccer fan was born in Russia and currently lives in Toronto. He hopes to train to become a police officer. “I don’t want to do traffic tickets. I am thinking vice or homicide.” Jimmy likes men and women in uniforms. He says his best attribute is “my package. I got a mean d***. Me and my buddies made a few videos.” Jimmy has also been a model for Sears, sporting “pyjamas, jeans, sweaters.” When it comes to pizza, he prefers “Greek style with feta cheese and black juicy olives.” His email is stunningstud21@hotmail.com."

http://archive.fabmagazine.com/fabboy/archive/260/index.html

Hope this helps?

 

[jwbear]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Luka_Magnotta#Renaming_the_article:_Murder_of_Lin_Jun

"Article was created under a suspect's name in a crime not yet brought to trial as the page was started before the victim's identity was verified and disclosed by police. The crime is notable but giving the individual suspect an encyclopaedia page is only feeding his desire for notoriety while creating WP:BLP1E, WP:BLP and WP:CRIME issues given that his prior notability is shaky at best. An AfD is currently open at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Luka Magnotta (3rd nomination) with strong support so far to either keep or rename at least the information on the crime itself. 66.102.83.61 (talk) 13:17, 1 June 2012 (UTC)"

Wow. I read earlier about him messing with Wiki but this is the first I've heard of this!

 

[HastingsChi]

I visited the photos archive located at
http://www.abproject.org/gallery3/index.php/VBKK

and at noted the various bookmarks in his browser—many dated 01-09-2011. First I was struck with the presence of LA Times and OC Register bookmarks in his toolbar.

Immediately, I was curious when the Hollywood Sign Murder took place but quickly realized that it was late 2011-early 2012.

One other thing I find striking is the nature of other bookmarks. One is for NuVision, which is a Federal Credit Union in LA. Why in the hell does he have a US federal credit union based in the LA area bookmarked? Also, open the NuVision site in your browser and the avatar will match that which accompanies the bookmark in LM’s browser. Also, there is a bookmark for UCI. I am guessing this is University of California-Irvine? Was he planning to move there and attend school, perhaps?

Thus, nothing too interesting, although, if I were the police out that way, I would be opening up any cold cases between mid-2010 and 01-09-2011. We know LM loved to read about himself...

bluelena69 I'm curious if you might be able to explain the history of what is featured on that site and ask for clear proof that what is featured on that site is from Magnotta's computer.

As we know it is highly illegal to hack into someone's computer or cloud-based accounts and if that was how the information was obtained, I'd ask that you delete your post.

You might not have the answers to this but what the site you linked to is purporting might be a violation of WS TOS.