ARUBA - Robyn Gardner, 35, Maryland woman missing in Aruba, 2 Aug 2011 - # 5

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I don't think the police would have been on her ipad at that stage of their investigation because they were investigating an accidential drowning. The only other person who would have access to her computer was GG. It is even possible he got a good look at her computer prior to their trip to the beach and saw her message to RF. I would imagine he would have been offended by it. jmo
 
RF says the status changed through out the day on Wednesday
I do not recall what time her family arrived
 
RF says the status changed through out the day on Wednesday
I do not recall what time her family arrived

Doesn't seem strange that if GG were on it he would not have sent messages to her friends that there was a tragic accident? Unless, to him, it was not so tragic. jmo
 
Doesn't seem strange that if GG were on it he would not have sent messages to her friends that there was a tragic accident? Unless, to him, it was not so tragic. jmo

actually now that you mention it... yes
 
I'm always stumped by what I don't know and wish I did. Like what happened to Robyn's personal belongings. Was GG caught taking them with him at the airport when he tried to board the plane and was arrested? Did he give them to her mother when she arrived? So I suppose one question to answer is was his mother there before he was arrested?

A news report I heard was that Robyns IPAD was being checked by Dutch officials.

I'm curious about his phone and message records, his IP and internet history.

Blah, I need police powers. lol

ETA: His banking records and IRS reporting too. :P
 
Gary and Robyn attended a party July 31 at Moomba's.
There are more pics from them at that party/concert etc.

Just catching up here... For "our" TimeLine - any "time" for this party??

TIA! :seeya:
 
I am not familiar with any of these crimes
Do you feel they are guilty?
I do believe in innocent until proven guilty
He LOOKs guilty , but my mind is still open... Show me
as much as I want guilty people to make amends, i do not like the idea of innocent people to do time for a crime that they didn't commimt

i think all of us can link to crimes where innocent people have been found guilty

I believed from day one GG was a murderer
But

NOw, I don't know
As i said, my mind changes with every news report

re bold - 'which' news report "changed" your mind?? Just curious!! :fence:
 
Just catching up here... For "our" TimeLine - any "time" for this party??

TIA! :seeya:

1200 people went wild during the Balashi Beach Bash at MooMba
.by Aruba Daily on Wednesday, 03 August 2011 at 08:58.The Balashi Beach Bash, featuring Chill Beer at mooMba Beach was a gigantic party last Sunday. At least 1200 people went wild during the electrifying performances of Swingmasterz, Honeypot and Da Housemob.

Chill flowed freely, as did Balashi, Aruba's very own, locally brewed beers.



The Bash started early, at 3 pm, with free tube rides and great music, sunshine and, of course, lots of beer, but the party atmosphere started for real when the sun set, the stars came out and the bands came on stage. More and more people showed up, crowding the beach and the MooMba bars, dancing, having fun and chilling, as photos show. For more pictures of the Balashi Beach Bash, look up MooMba Beach's Facebook page.
 
re bold - 'which' news report "changed" your mind?? Just curious!! :fence:

Not a specific report really
I am having a hard time figuring out which reports are accurate

Blood, no blood etc.
 
1200 people went wild during the Balashi Beach Bash at MooMba
.by Aruba Daily on Wednesday, 03 August 2011 at 08:58.The Balashi Beach Bash, featuring Chill Beer at mooMba Beach was a gigantic party last Sunday. At least 1200 people went wild during the electrifying performances of Swingmasterz, Honeypot and Da Housemob.

Chill flowed freely, as did Balashi, Aruba's very own, locally brewed beers.



The Bash started early, at 3 pm, with free tube rides and great music, sunshine and, of course, lots of beer, but the party atmosphere started for real when the sun set, the stars came out and the bands came on stage. More and more people showed up, crowding the beach and the MooMba bars, dancing, having fun and chilling, as photos show. For more pictures of the Balashi Beach Bash, look up MooMba Beach's Facebook page.

:rocker: Thanks! I'm going to re-post the Timeline, since it quite a few pages back!

Also - anyone know 'what time' RG's mother arrived - and about the same questions in bold from Peliman:
I'm always stumped by what I don't know and wish I did. Like what happened to Robyn's personal belongings. Was GG caught taking them with him at the airport when he tried to board the plane and was arrested? Did he give them to her mother when she arrived? So I suppose one question to answer is was his mother there before he was arrested?

You do mean HER mother, right??! GG was arrested on the 5th of August, so after her mother arrived.

Anyone know about her belongings? in the hotel room, taken by police OR given to her mother??
 

You do mean HER mother, right??! GG was arrested on the 5th of August, so after her mother arrived.

Anyone know about her belongings? in the hotel room, taken by police OR given to her mother??

Yes, her mother...Reports I'm seeing is that RF reported activity on her g-mail for two days from when she was reported missing so I'm guessing it wasn't her mother on her g-mail account.
 
TimeLine (approx)

July 2011 - Robyn sends GG a text "Get me out of here." Per a report. there is a fight just prior to leaving for Aruba between GG and RF.

Sunday, July 31st - Flight time from Maryland to Orlando is about 1 1/2 hours. Given the time they would have needed to be at the airport for security, my guess-timate is that they were at the airport no later than 6am.
9am – Orlando Airport: ABC News has seen receipts that revealed that the couple ordered four Bloody Marys at 9 a.m. at the Orlando Airport on their way to the island,

?? Arrive at hotel - and that the two bought a liter of Ciroq vodka after they checked into their room at the Marriott Hotel in Aruba.
Sunday, July 31, late afternoon - I met Robyn and Gary on the beach in front of the Marriott Stellaris Hotel. They had arrived on that day. My husband and I sat and spoke with them for awhile. They asked my husband and I about activities on the island.... Was shocked to see that this had happened, since we just spoke with them last Sunday, late afternoon. I am sure it was Robyn because I commented on her tattoo, indicating that I liked it. Didn't think they went together as a couple, as he was much older. She was also sitting kind of far away from him on the beach chair. She was nice. We were actually discussing the Natalee Holloway case. I will pray for her return.

Sunday, July 31st – evening/concert started at sunset - GG & RG attend party at MooMba’s/pictures at party/concert; the Balashi Beach Bash at MooMba

Monday, August 1st - GG and RG bought bottle of vodka this day, per reports.
3:09pm – Toyota RAV-4 drives by The Rum Reef Bar & Grill – seen on video.
3:41pm – GG & RG seen walking by the ‘closed’ restaurant gates –“ walking on beach” seen on video.
5:02pm – Facebook comment: “the 16. I can communicate here.”

Tuesday. August 2nd – 2:05am - Facebook comment left on RF's wall by Robyn: "This sucks."

Tuesday, August 2nd – 6:51am - Prime murder suspect Gary Giordano, who friends said she met on a swingers sex site, is thought to have threatened to kill her while grabbing her by the neck and shoving her into an elevator on August 2 - the last day Miss Gardner, 35, was seen alive. The videotape from the Marriott Resort in Aruba allegedly shows the two having a furious and violent fight on the day she went missing. A source close to the investigation told the National Enquirer: 'They were having a major fight. Robyn was waving her arms and shouting at Giordano. He was grabbing her arms and jerking her around and shouting back at her. 'Then Giordano apparently realized their argument was heating up in public where someone might overhear them. He violently grabbed the back of Robyn's neck with one hand and shoved her back into the elevator with the other hand.' After reviewing the video multiple times, experts believe Robyn shouted: 'I'm out of here. I'm leaving ****** you!. I'm not spending another minute with you!' while he shouted back: 'Get back here! I'll kill you, b*****!'

Tuesday, August 2nd – 7:57am - Facebook: RF to Robyn: “?? InBox me”

3:07pm - Arrived at restaurant – Seen on camera entering restaurant.

3:10pm - Robyn sends RF a Facebook message 'Don't worry. I care about you I love you we'll talk and sort things out when I got back,' Reportedly went to bathroom after entering restaurant.

At 3:57pm, Giordano returns to their rental car outside and refills his blue cup, going back inside at 4pm Seven minutes later, Gardner heads to the bathroom again. One witness has said that at this point she seems sober but groggy.

4:13pm - Robyn is last seen (leaving restaurant). A man who works near Baby Beach reported seeing their vehicle park up by the rocks close to the water, wondered why they chose there to go snorkeling. A fisherman comes forward and says that GG and RG never went into the water. Gardner was last seen alive Aug. 2 at the Rum Reef Bar & Grill in the Baby Beach area of Aruba with Gary Giordano - approximately 4pm. Giordano, 50, and Gardner, 35, had traveled to Aruba together. He is being held in an Arubian jail but could be released today. Giordano claims that Gardner got swept out to sea when the two went snorkeling

approx. 4:23pm - Approximately 10 minutes after leaving restaurant a fisherman reportedly saw Giordano and Gardner leaving a beach together, and said they did not get into the water.

6:15pm (time seen on video) - GG knocking on several back doors.

6:16pm – (video) GG walking up the stairs.

6:16pm – (video) GG walking along the bar.

6:17pm - (video) GG walking the bar area; then walking around to the back (no footage).

6:20pm - GG reportedly headed to the back kitchen of the bar and told someone to call police. Three witnesses, two women and a man, told police that Giordano approached them on Aug. 2, saying, "Can you help me? We were snorkeling and my girlfriend is missing," she told police. One woman told police that while Giordano's sneakers were wet, his shorts were not. When Giordano reported Gardner missing, he seemed extremely drunk, a local fisherman, Sergio Silva, told ABC News, although Giordano told police that the two never purchased alcohol at the restaurant.

6.23pm - 911 received notification of a possible drowning of a woman. The traveling companion of this woman, a man G.V.G. stated that they were going snorkeling behind Nanki Country Club. At 6:23 p.m. on the day of her disappearance, police were called, and 20 minutes later began to search the area. Then, Giordano left the search to return to his hotel and take a nap, according to police. Disclaimer: This claim, at 6.40 GG went for a nap, not true, there are various pics of GG helping the police in the dark, pics where it is completely dark, it takes till 7:30 for it to get dark, so GG was not taking a nap at 6:40, he still was working with the police at least at 7:30.

Wednesday, August 4th - Robin’s mother arrives (??time??).

Wednesday, August 4th – original date to fly back

Wednesday, August 4th – throughout the day per RF – RG’s gmail chat function – turned green (active), orange (idle) and gray (signed off) on Wednesday and Thursday.

Friday, August 5th - Three days after the search for Gardner began, Giordano got within feet of leaving the country before he was stopped at Aruba's airport where he told U.S. Customs he had to change flights because of weather, and told officials that his travel companion was "taking another flight." He was trying to board a flight one hour earlier than his scheduled departure. When arrested, authorities say Giordano was drenched in sweat. Mug shot after being arrested trying to get on a plane off the island.

Wednesday, August 31st – GG detained in jail for another 60 days (til Oct. 30th).
 
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Where's Waldo? Hint: Look towards the center-right.

Here is another one:

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Left center edge.

This one she is the center of the shot:



Having a good time:



Top left:



Right of image:

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Entire set viewable at:

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.228730657168255.54074.208457142528940
 
TimeLine (approx)

July 2011 - Robyn sends GG a text "Get me out of here." Per a report. there is a fight just prior to leaving for Aruba between GG and RF.

5:02pm – Facebook comment: “the 16. I can communicate here.”


Does anyone know where the report about a fight between GG and RF came from? I don't remember it.
Also, can anyone enlighten me on wht "the 16" is?
 
1200 people went wild during the Balashi Beach Bash at MooMba
.by Aruba Daily on Wednesday, 03 August 2011 at 08:58.The Balashi Beach Bash, featuring Chill Beer at mooMba Beach was a gigantic party last Sunday. At least 1200 people went wild during the electrifying performances of Swingmasterz, Honeypot and Da Housemob.

Chill flowed freely, as did Balashi, Aruba's very own, locally brewed beers.



The Bash started early, at 3 pm, with free tube rides and great music, sunshine and, of course, lots of beer, but the party atmosphere started for real when the sun set, the stars came out and the bands came on stage. More and more people showed up, crowding the beach and the MooMba bars, dancing, having fun and chilling, as photos show. For more pictures of the Balashi Beach Bash, look up MooMba Beach's Facebook page.

There are several pictures of the nightime entertainment on that page that show RG and GG at the bash.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Moomb....228730657168255.54074.208457142528940&type=1

eta: oops... I see IHS already posted some of them.
 
Not a specific report really
I am having a hard time figuring out which reports are accurate

Blood, no blood etc.

I saw a news report the other night (online) don't remember which, they said that the ipad and blood samples (from the rock she cut her toe on) were sent to Holland just two weeks ago. They waited a month before they sent them. The reporter even showed the rock she cut herself on.

By the way, it looked more like a boulder than a rock. Not something you'd accidentally stump your toe on. I'll try to find the news story.
 
I saw a news report the other night (online) don't remember which, they said that the ipad and blood samples (from the rock she cut her toe on) were sent to Holland just two weeks ago. They waited a month before they sent them. The reporter even showed the rock she cut herself on.

By the way, it looked more like a boulder than a rock. Not something you'd accidentally stump your toe on. I'll try to find the news story.


I really hate to say it (my dad was a cop and I give LE a lot of leeway), but I am coming to the same conclusions about Aruba LE that I had in the NH case. <modsnip>.
 
Does anyone have a link to the Geraldo At Large video where they were discussing the blood on the rocks AND talked about algae

I would like to see it again and can't find it
 
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