ATLANTIC CITY SK: possible link to LISK and GB4?

[LINative13]

If I was hunting mushrooms or eating them I probably would not be calling the cops either.

 

[Theforeigner]

20 years old is plenty old to kill. Many kids out there with more than 5 bodies on their belt younger than 20.

One thing, that IMHO, point away from Tara's killer, Steven Stallworth, being that AC4 killer is, the FACT, that NONE of the AC4 victims were sexual assaulted.

A 19-20 year old male, who kill a female (who are not girlfriends) would typically kill in some sort of sexual assault situation.
I also VERY much doubt that a 19-20 year old guy would kill and dump 4 woman in such a ritualistic way as the AC4 victims were.

The AC4 murder victims were ALL 4 found fully clothes, except stockings and shoes, and no jewelery, no phones, no purses or ANY other personal belongings.
3 of the AC4 victims had high amount of drugs i their system and one of them, Molly Dilts, no drugs but high amount of alcohol.

Also the fact that at least 3 of the victims knew each other, and even lived together on and of (that was Kim Raffo, Tracy Ann Roberts and Molly Dilts) IMHO point to a killer who, one way or the other, knew, or knew of, all thise 3 victims.

 

[LINative13]

I wouldn't sell today's youth so short foreigner.

 

[Puggle]

Was Tara sexually assaulted ? - sorry just asking as my downloads are next to nothing.

 

[Puggle]

If he lived so close to the area involved - he may very well have known all the victims....just putting it out there....but then again I'm still hung up on the fact that her body was found by police....just like...some other bodies on LI.....all found by police???

 

[LikeAHunter]

I get really excited when something like this happens. SS or JB gets arrested and I want to jump to "Hey, maybe he killed all those other people, too! That would be so great because a SK would be off the streets and getting what he deserves!"

But then, when I stop and think about it, the MO and/or signature is out of whack. Beating prostitutes and posing them is very different from wrapping them in burlap and very different from mutilation and dismemberment. Likewise, killing and posing dead prostitutes is very different from dismembering and dumping in a suitcase.

IMO, even if the killers' MOs changed, it's too big of a leap to link all these cases. Besides, if their MOs did change, their signatures would not.

That said, I HOPE I'm wrong!!

 

[LindsayLohan6]

I always thought Tara being dumped in a suitcase in egg harbor was just another nail in the coffin of LISK. A suitcase dump in egg harbor which seemed to match the MO of peaches killer left little doubt for me AC and LISK were the same. This kid hardly seems capable of being the AC4 SK. I'd like to know more about the crime. What about Foreigner's find that both of the recent AC victims had a mutual FB friend who posted on their walls right before they died. How does this play in here? Did these girls know each other? Did SS kill them both? whats going on here? It's still not impossible that he's connected to the AC4

 

[marie-chantal]

I always thought Tara being dumped in a suitcase in egg harbor was just another nail in the coffin of LISK. A suitcase dump in egg harbor which seemed to match the MO of peaches killer left little doubt for me AC and LISK were the same. This kid hardly seems capable of being the AC4 SK. I'd like to know more about the crime. What about Foreigner's find that both of the recent AC victims had a mutual FB friend who posted on their walls right before they died. How does this play in here? Did these girls know each other? Did SS kill them both? whats going on here? It's still not impossible that he's connected to the AC4

BBM

Are you suspecting that SS is the killer of Peaches? He would have been too young, IMO. Apologies if that's not what you're suspecting.

ETA: I initially thought of Peaches too, but then I realized that SS would have been a kid.

 

[Just K]

I know....it's supposed to be the joggers who find everyone.
Nation's Joggers Sick of Finding Dead Bodies

Or sadly, the pet owner out for the early morning dog walk.

 

[Just K]

I get really excited when something like this happens. SS or JB gets arrested and I want to jump to "Hey, maybe he killed all those other people, too! That would be so great because a SK would be off the streets and getting what he deserves!"

But then, when I stop and think about it, the MO and/or signature is out of whack. Beating prostitutes and posing them is very different from wrapping them in burlap and very different from mutilation and dismemberment. Likewise, killing and posing dead prostitutes is very different from dismembering and dumping in a suitcase.

IMO, even if the killers' MOs changed, it's too big of a leap to link all these cases. Besides, if their MOs did change, their signatures would not. That said, I HOPE I'm wrong!!

Maybe they are just paid employees/enforcers and that's why there are so many MOs. If this is what's going on, then there may be a few recommended dump spots and methods of disposal...suitcase, cooler, shower curtain, black trash bags, and then one rogue worker adds some unique signature. I still think AC4 and GB4 are one and the same killer...at least someone working for the same group.

 

[Aleph]

I wonder if Stallworth and Bittrolff knew each other at all. The timing is just SO interesting...

 

[Theforeigner]

I always thought Tara being dumped in a suitcase in egg harbor was just another nail in the coffin of LISK. A suitcase dump in egg harbor which seemed to match the MO of peaches killer left little doubt for me AC and LISK were the same. This kid hardly seems capable of being the AC4 SK. I'd like to know more about the crime. What about Foreigner's find that both of the recent AC victims had a mutual FB friend who posted on their walls right before they died. How does this play in here? Did these girls know each other? Did SS kill them both? whats going on here? It's still not impossible that he's connected to the AC4

Here is the other Atlantic City 2014 murder victim Joyce Yvonne Vanderhoff 's Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/joyce.vanderhoff


At her last post/photo (a photo of herself) posted February 13, there is a comment posted by a man with initials GA, saying "Hey pretty"


Now of significant interest!!!

2014 Atlantic City murder victim Tara Rogers-Alicea has this VERY SAME man GA as a Facebook friend !!!

https://www.facebook.com/tara.rogersalicea/friends

His name is: Grxx Alxxxx. According to his FB he lives in :Neptune Township, New Jersey.
GA has several criminal records.

(I did notify police about this back around the time when the bodies were found)

 

[LindsayLohan6]

Thats creepy as hell on the 13th he posts "hey pretty" and on the 15th "rest in peace lady j"

 

[LindsayLohan6]

BBM

Are you suspecting that SS is the killer of Peaches? He would have been too young, IMO. Apologies if that's not what you're suspecting.

ETA: I initially thought of Peaches too, but then I realized that SS would have been a kid.

I'm saying before SS arrest I always thought Tara was a strong example of the LISK using the Peaches MO in AC. But she wasn't dismembered and SS isnt the killer of peaches so I guess not

 

[Just K]

I'd like to hear more about this K. Was is Maureen's sister who insisted on here she never lived in Mays Landing? If she does have a connection to Mays Landing why would her sister not know or deny that?

Sisters don't share all info with each other. The sister also said that she thought MBB was modeling for Sexy Jobs.

Sadly, I have had two different computers crash and all of my links, some of which MBB's family requested of the service provider and had removed, are no longer available. All I have left are my PMs referring to the general finds. Even though some of MBB's friends and family members have said that MBB didn't do "escorting" as a regular job, we have since learned, through "Lost Girls," iirc, that MBB did work with two separate men to post her ads. We were told she did not have a pimp. These were not buddies from Connecticut, IMO. They were men who worked out of a location near the motels/hotels where she and other women worked. They posted ads for other women, too. Sounds like the job of a boss or pimp, to me. That is how MW was worked by Akeem Cruz. From that book, we also learned that MBB went with at least one other girl out to LI for jobs.

Either MBB kept details from her family and friends or for one reason or another they are withholding those details. In early searches, MBBs ex was tracked from the association with a family in Mays Landing, NJ to yet another upscale beach community in Central Florida with the same family name coming up there s well. A good sleuth can find all of this. I have both MBBs criminal records as well as those of her ex spouse. The info is out there, I've seen it but I am not going to go looking again.

 

[threelittlebirdies]

Maybe they are just paid employees/enforcers and that's why there are so many MOs. If this is what's going on, then there may be a few recommended dump spots and methods of disposal...suitcase, cooler, shower curtain, black trash bags, and then one rogue worker adds some unique signature. I still think AC4 and GB4 are one and the same killer...at least someone working for the same group.

I totally agree with your theory. What do you think the reason behind the killings are?

 

[bessie]

He looks like a biracial American to me. MOO.

Mods: What's the policy on discussions regarding the FB or social media of a victim? If public FB pages of the victim are allowed to be discussed, I'd like to mention that this victim has a picture on her FB page that has a banner in the background with writing in Arabic. If this isn't allowed, please let me know.

Victims' FB pages can be linked, and the victims' posts can be discussed. So discussing the photo is fine. Just don't sleuth the victim' FB "friends".

 

[Just K]

Well, if it is "organized" groups it would be much the same as the most recent case of CB. The victim was seen as either some sort of a threat to the larger illegal business/businesses or they worked with or for someone who was seen as a threat, loose cannon, whatever and the killing is a message to others who might step out of line. Or the victim was trying to get out or away from being sucked further into more serious crimes. Just one of a few theories. I go back and forth but in the end come back to this idea. The CB case and the fast arrest, as well as this recent AC suitcase murder with another fairly quick arrest and then JB and his arrest in connection to RT, CM & SC show a pattern of brutality which seems like overkill. Just like JT's murder.

 

[Just K]

I just want to add: If these victims are being killed in order to send a message there still could be some rogue killers, amongst the group, who in addition to doing a job are also playing out their own sick fantasies.

 

[threelittlebirdies]

I just want to add: If these victims are being killed in order to send a message there still could be some rogue killers, amongst the group, who in addition to doing a job are also playing out their own sick fantasies.

Very good points. Do you think it has anything to do with the underground

BDSM and snuff film production?