Nowhere sells death caps though because they are toxic. So why would the reporters go door to door asking if they sell death caps. The media has turned this into a circus imo.
Why not investigate and debunk the information provided? It’s a free press.
I'm not sure we can be positive she didn't have mushroom poisoning?
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Well if it was unintentional she is already experiencing so many probably avoidable consequences by not coming clean.
Imo she didn’t want to get in trouble.
Of course, no one wants to get in trouble. But she made some very very bad decisions that night. She was twice the legal alcohol limit while driving.
She was TWENTY NINE. She wasn't 17, so who cares if her mom would be happy or not? At 29, one should be mature enough to deal with tough consequences. If you crash your car, driving away at 95 miles per hour to flee the scene is not the best course of action.
It doesn't matter how long ago she was 'charged' with anything---the real question is how long ago since she actually committed an offence? She has been accused by her ex of poisoning him recently.
I'm pretty sure she didn't.
That^^^ makes no sense to me that she would be sent home on that first day if anyone believed she had been poisoned like her lunch mates.
If there really was such a thing as a 'liver protective drug' for Death Cap poisoning, the other victims would not have died.
Here is why I doubt that she had any evidence of mushroom poisoning----there were 4 others that she shared a meal with that were deathly ill. The doctors were aware of the severity of their conditions.
Woman who cooked suspected poisoned meal details where she bought mushrooms
The woman who cooked a meal that is believed to have contained poisonous mushrooms and led to the deaths of three people gives a lengthy written statement to police detailing her account of what happened, and revealing she was hospitalised after the incident.
She may have had a milder case of poisoning or a stronger resilience to it.
Even so, she is a 50 year old woman---are they going to let her walk out of the hospital if they think she ingested some toxic mushrooms like the 4 others that were critically ill?
From the linked study of mushroom poisoning patients in the ACT - there have been 7 mushroom poisoning patients all under the age of 47. 1 patient died (aged 46) and 6 recovered.
Poisoning by Amanita phalloides ("deathcap") mushrooms in the Australian Capital Territory
Poisoning by Amanita phalloides ("deathcap") mushrooms in the Australian Capital Territorywww.mja.com.au
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Yes, 'now' is an odd word to keep inserting---what's changed?"I now very much regret not answering some questions following this advice given the nightmare that this process has become," she said
Woman who cooked suspected poisoned meal details where she bought mushrooms
The woman who cooked a meal that is believed to have contained poisonous mushrooms and led to the deaths of three people gives a lengthy written statement to police detailing her account of what happened, and revealing she was hospitalised after the incident.
*The word ‘now’ in these statements has bothered me. Why does she qualify her words like she has ‘now’ changed her mind? Did she not feel this way before? When exactly did she ‘now‘ recognize the severity? Is it possible she is ‘now’ feeling guilty because she only intended to make them sick so the intervention could not be completed?
Appreciating her describing painful deaths, painful illness and coma, and her being questioned (rightly to protect the public if necessary) as a PROCESS…"I am now wanting to clear up the record because I have become extremely stressed and overwhelmed by the deaths of my loved ones," Ms Patterson said.
"I am now devastated to think that these mushrooms may have contributed to the illness suffered by my loved ones. I really want to repeat that I had absolutely no reason to hurt these people whom I loved."
"I now very much regret not answering some questions following this advice given the nightmare that this process has become," she said
Woman who cooked suspected poisoned meal details where she bought mushrooms
The woman who cooked a meal that is believed to have contained poisonous mushrooms and led to the deaths of three people gives a lengthy written statement to police detailing her account of what happened, and revealing she was hospitalised after the incident.
*The word ‘now’ in these statements has bothered me. Why does she qualify her words like she has ‘now’ changed her mind? Did she not feel this way before? When exactly did she ‘now‘ recognize the severity? Is it possible she is ‘now’ feeling guilty because she only intended to make them sick so the intervention could not be completed?
It seems she is making a distinction between then when she made no comment at the advice of the first lawyer and now when she got better advice from her current lawyer."I am now wanting to clear up the record because I have become extremely stressed and overwhelmed by the deaths of my loved ones," Ms Patterson said.
"I am now devastated to think that these mushrooms may have contributed to the illness suffered by my loved ones. I really want to repeat that I had absolutely no reason to hurt these people whom I loved."
"I now very much regret not answering some questions following this advice given the nightmare that this process has become," she said
Woman who cooked suspected poisoned meal details where she bought mushrooms
The woman who cooked a meal that is believed to have contained poisonous mushrooms and led to the deaths of three people gives a lengthy written statement to police detailing her account of what happened, and revealing she was hospitalised after the incident.
*The word ‘now’ in these statements has bothered me. Why does she qualify her words like she has ‘now’ changed her mind? Did she not feel this way before? When exactly did she ‘now‘ recognize the severity? Is it possible she is ‘now’ feeling guilty because she only intended to make them sick so the intervention could not be completed?
I'm pretty sure she didn't.
That^^^ makes no sense to me that she would be sent home on that first day if anyone believed she had been poisoned like her lunch mates.
If there really was such a thing as a 'liver protective drug' for Death Cap poisoning, the other victims would not have died.
Here is why I doubt that she had any evidence of mushroom poisoning----there were 4 others that she shared a meal with that were deathly ill. The doctors were aware of the severity of their conditions.
I have a hard time believing that she would have been released so quickly and sent home, if there was ANY signs of death cap poisoning in her system. And the only report of her being hospitalised, that I have seen, was from her.
She says she had bad stomach ache and diarrhoea[according to her] ---if so, why would they send her home, when her lunch mates were going downhill so fast? It doesn't ring true to me.
*1---There are articles talking about how Death Cap poison victims often seem to be getting better in the 1st day or so and then have sudden reversal where organs shut down. If the poison experts believed she was a victim of the same poison as the others, why let her go home alone just because she felt better? [see below]
Even so, she is a 50 year old woman---are they going to let her walk out of the hospital if they think she ingested some toxic mushrooms like the 4 others that were critically ill?
Ade Black
* 1 The Deathcap and Destroying Angel:
Initially they are fairly tasty when eaten and there are no effects until they start to be digested in the stomach. Then you start to get stomach cramps and vomiting along with tremendous diarrhea .
Next stage is the toxins within the mushrooms start to get into the bloodstream and carried around the body - they will eventually arrive at the liver and at a different time the kidneys where the body will attempt to process tbe toxin. However the body cannot process the toxin, the toxin does damage as it passes through liver and kidneys - the poisened host will be in considerable pain at this point and probably unable to walk as the toxin starts to liquidise both liver and kidneys (think kidney stone kind of pain) -
then the pain will go away for a while - maybe as long as two days. The host may well believe that they have /are recovering - Wrong, the toxin is still present and returns after this time-doing more liver and kidney damage this leads to death after around two weeks of very unpleasant pain-it is a horrible death as not only do the liver and kidneys get liquefied by the toxin - so do other organs wherever the blood flows - and finally there is no cure for Deathcap or Destroying Angel poisoning - you eat one you will die after around two weeks of pain.
If you ate a poisonous mushroom, how quickly would you die?
Answer (1 of 8): As mentioned this is not a good way to die, and we could say there are “no good ways to die” but truly it is an awful experience. The process is typically a week or longer depending on the toxin ingested, amount ingested, the weight of the individual, age, general health, etc, w...www.quora.com
So the next stage after stomach cramps is the critical stage where your liver and kidneys become overwhelmed with the toxins and begin to shutdown.
Are we to believe that they just sent her home ---even though they thought she had been poisoned by toxic mushrooms?
The general public has minimal information regarding Erin Patterson's interaction with investigators. Maybe she did "come clean" if there were "an unintentional foraging mistake". We don't know. This would not necessarily mean that the case is solved. It is likely that further investigation would be still be required.
Erin’s statements sound true. Erin’s situation feels guilty. I’m still on the fence.
IMO, we simply don't have enough actual facts to be off the fence.
The problem for EP is that the medical experts interrogated all 4 victims in the hospital, specifically about ANY thing they all ate and drank before they got sick.
