I didn't mention JM at all.
This is what I mean about dragging up POI's who have already been cleared by DNA.
Elastic, keeps on harping on about Morey / Matusevich being the CSK!.
What part about "he has been in jail thus his DNA is on Codis and WAPOL have the DNA of the CSK and have thus ruled him OUT", is Elastic not able to understand?
It just brings down the credibility of all posters on the CSK thread to keep harking back and back and back, when its clearly already proven 100% wrong via DNA!.
See what I mean?
I once suspected FJ Wark (awaiting trial on the Hayley Dodd case in March) and Morey / Matusevich of being possible CSK perpetrators based on their known MO's from past convictions. I even raised the possibility in posts.
BUT
Both have been in jail & thus both have their DNA on CODIS, and we KNOW 100% that WAPOL have DNA from the CSK case and the 1995 Karakatta cemetery rape case. We don't KNOW that at all.
Thus it can't possibly have been either Morey / Matusevich nor can it have been Wark - even tho they each have known M.O.'s that match known aspects of the CSK case.
So I had to let that suspicion go and move on.
We KNOW that WAPOL have DNA for quite a few reasons now!
1. They DNA tested almost all the taxi drivers (No point without DNA crime scene sample to compare it to!) The Taxi Registration Board pushed for DNA testing of taxi drivers.
2. They got a warrant and took Weygers DNA by force. (No point without DNA crime scene sample to compare it to!) All person of interest are DNA tested so that comparison can be made against other crime data, not just Claremont
3. They went all the way to the UK to compare with Dixies DNA & Eliminated him. (Not possible without DNA crime scene sample to compare it to!) The Dixie DNA samples were actually provided to WA police in WA and tested in WA. not in the UK. Again in order to test against other crimes as well.
4. They have DNA from the 1995 Karakatta rape victim that matches the CSk crime scene sample & links the same perpetrator. We don't know that.
5. Both Morey / Matusevich and Wark were in jail at the time of the CSK cases - i.e. cannot possibly have been either of them. Matusevich / Morey was one of the 1st DNA samples to be placed on the WA DNA database which came commenced in November 2000 which just happened to be the same month that Sarah McMahon disappeared. Articles from 2001 have detail that.
I guess what i am trying to say, is that when someone is proposed as a POI, would it not be perhaps wise to FIRST pass them first thru "the filter of whats already known as fact", like jail custodial sentences & their DNA being in Codis already? Is CODIS the name for the database in Australia ? What concerns me is that when the Australia-wide database as founded, the DNA from prisoners who were sentenced to 5 years or more was included -- this would have excluded a lot of prisoners who may have committed crimes that had not be convicted of (at that time) and may also have excluded criminals that were convicted of non murder, sexual assault and other crimes ie burglaries.
Otherwise we can just keep discussing ad infinitem - the same POI's who have already been 100% eliminated by DNA & or Incarceration at the time!.
It's important to know when to let go - I had to let go of both Wark & Morey / Matusevich for CSK purely because known facts (DNA and incarceration) preclude them.
I think others (Elastic?) should do likewise... and move on... because it serves no worthwhile purpose top keep devoting thread bandwidth to their discussion
Back to Iona... (coz that's a commonality that just won't go away yet), Cardinal George Pell - why is there such a clamor to firce him back here to oz to testify for a 3rd occasion in front of the Royal Commission at the moment?
Because what the RC Church under Pell and others consistently did was mix up the difference between separation of powers of the church & state!
To forgive is divine! So when priests were suspected / accused, under church rules, of hanky panky with kiddies, they were forgiven for sinning and transferred to another diocese - preferably across state lines where there is no state law jurisdiction!
Where as Law would require they were reported to Police for criminal investigation and charges.
Is it not possible that an Iona priest was maybe transferred to an eastern states diocese - say Melbourne or Bannockburn and that's when and where Lorrin kaiser / Whitehead - going thru divorce, sought solace in her local church thru such a trying time - and met her former priest from Iona, and ended up dead? quite a few missing )and subsequently found murdered) woman in Victoria appear to go missing when last seen in a local milk bar or shop -- strange. Lorrin Whitehead was last seen in such circumstances.
Given what we now know about how such things were managed by the church - isn't that a plausible scenario to link the former Iona girl to all the other murders?
Seems so, to me at least.
As for multiple responses - every post i have made tonight I have been logged out while composing the response... If i dealt with every question from all posters in one response i still wouldn't have posted anything at all - I count at least 4 or 5 logins tonight alone - just to get any response on screen. Parkies made mention of this recently.