Found Deceased Australia - Karen Ristevski, 47, Melbourne, Vic, 29 June 2016 - #12

[CalliopeGG]

Jks aside ....trying hard to remember .... We had a member here who broke thus news before it was news ......something like she's a hair dresser ..... and I thought the whisper she had was it was two men and a boy...or was it a girl

Sheesh...wish I could find those original posts...

That was our very own Emirates, ahead of the game. Read it here first!

 

[Armchair snoop]

Drive by Oakley this arvo .... nothing to report.

Keep up the good work emirates but please be careful, and look out for those evil strangers. :lurk:

 

[Puggle]

That was our very own Emirates, ahead of the game. Read it here first!

Its kinda a wow moment.....when you look back and reflect..

The details may not exactly match ....but that is likely to happen when conversations are being repeated ...things change..

But we have the info of a bogged vehicle near the site.... a conversation being had....and the lime being noticed...which all matches up with what the media put out 2 days after this being mentioned...

Wowsers.....

 

[Trooper]

emirates...:winner:...... I remember thinking at the time that it was game over.. Borce.. a young female and a younger male.. I never considered it to be Sarah and a boyfriend, but it niggled me that it was Ant and a girlfriend/wife/ partner. Vlasko , I put on the backburner.... ... temporarily.

Because it was so definite... you know, most people are not idiots, and they know when they see something that strikes them at the time as odd, it slips into the subconscious and then is propelled forward by some other catalyst, a news report, a photograph, a sound recording... with crystal clarity , most often.

God alone knows what will come out when this whole shindig goes to trial.. it is, on the face of it, a very ordinary domestic murder, a daily occurrence in this wide brown land, a terrible indictment of cultural and community perspectives, ... but like all murders, it has, along with the usual repulsiveness , the required amount and much more than required amount of real relentless stupidity, vindictiveness , greed , fury , hate and despair... .. husbands hating wives, brother in law hating sister in law, son hating father, sister hating half brother, father hating son, stepmother hating stepson, all the usual cast of characters but with it's own unique twists and turns..

 

[Puggle]

client said "Moving Van"

Have to wonder if this was specific in..... it looked to be a hired "Moving Van"......
Could it have been a .....Budget.....Avis ....Thrifty?..

Van as opposed to specific type of van .....lo..just thinking/typing out loud.

 

[Trooper]

client said "Moving Van"

Have to wonder if this was specific in..... it looked to be a hired "Moving Van"......
Could it have been a .....Budget.....Avis ....Thrifty?..

Van as opposed to specific type of van .....lo..just thinking/typing out loud.

or a horse float....?..........

 

[moreinfo]

I doubt it was her phone that was left there, at the time, as it pinged further up the road at Gisborne.

Na, I don't think her phone would be left anywhere either. I think BR would have smashed it to pieces and chopped up the SIM card and discarded it at some random bin/s. Of course a little too late into his journey .

 

[suspicious]

I'm probably asking a silly question, but if he killed her at home, why was her phone in the car? Would he have deliberately taken it with them?


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I just read Rosies post. Excuse my q

 

[sosocurious]

A woman who owns a property nearby said she saw a white van, which looked out of place, parked near Loch Road last August.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/u...eautiful-karen-ristevski-20170221-gui9t7.html

Macedon resident Dean told police that in the days after Ms Ristevski disappeared, he saw two strange men matching the description of Borce and Vasko Ristevksi bogged in a small white truck on Salisbury Rd — about 200m from where the body was found........
The local dad and businessman also reported seeing bags of concrete and lime.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/ka...y/news-story/e5140ff6f5cc1d49d115942a01e289ad

and a bogged moving van and empty sacks of lime a few days later.

hmm

 

[decsimp]

I don't think the ipad use points to Sarah. If anything, many less tech savvy adults will now have a ipad when they wouldn't have bothered with getting a PC or laptop for recreational use. I don't think anything points to Sarah, I think she is just dealing with a really dreadful situation with the values and coping mechanisms she has been exposed to/taught in her 21 years.

I dont think it was SR either. I have older relatives who only use ipads - but i bet they don't realise how much of a digital footprint you leave when searching etc

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[sleepinoz]

A woman who owns a property nearby said she saw a white van, which looked out of place, parked near Loch Road last August.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/u...eautiful-karen-ristevski-20170221-gui9t7.html

Macedon resident Dean told police that in the days after Ms Ristevski disappeared, he saw two strange men matching the description of Borce and Vasko Ristevksi bogged in a small white truck on Salisbury Rd — about 200m from where the body was found........
The local dad and businessman also reported seeing bags of concrete and lime.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/ka...y/news-story/e5140ff6f5cc1d49d115942a01e289ad

and a bogged moving van and empty sacks of lime a few days later.

hmm

It's always the bloody white van [emoji10]

 

[Pi Thoughts]

I'm probably asking a silly question, but if he killed her at home, why was her phone in the car? Would he have deliberately taken it with them?


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I just read Rosies post. Excuse my q

It's possible Karen was putting her bag etc into her car getting ready to go to work and the argument happened and things transpired from there.

 

[sosocurious]

It's always the bloody white van [emoji10]

Now how do you unbog a bloody white van/truck?

 

[Pi Thoughts]

Now how do you unbog a bloody white van/truck?

Tow Truck?

 

[sleepinoz]

Now how do you unbog a bloody white van/truck?

You may have to ask Borce [emoji2]

 

[sosocurious]

You may have to ask Borce [emoji2]

He wont talk his phone is bugged

 

[moreinfo]

I'm probably asking a silly question, but if he killed her at home, why was her phone in the car? Would he have deliberately taken it with them?

B/c according to Borce she was kidnapped therefore she would have her phone on her. He would have taken this along with her bag and wallet to dispose of.

 

[moreinfo]

So in the court of law, will those fully aware of who was involved in the murder/disposal/tampering with evidence be subject to a jail sentence as well?
So if Sarah knows who did what, or is helping by covering up will she receive a jail sentence?
If so I wonder whether police will grant her immunity if she speaks up at this point , maybe police will use this as their last bargaining tool with her .

 

[they'll get you]

That was our very own Emirates, ahead of the game. Read it here first!

Usually, the body is laid out on a tarp or placed in a burial, and then to prevent it from smelling and speed decay it is covered with quicklime. In movies and TV shows, the quicklime effectively destroys the body so that identification is prevented.



https://bonesdontlie.wordpress.com/2013/08/08/new-morbid-terminology-quicklime/

 

[PrimeSuspect]

And to think everybody canned that reporter for asking THAT question. I don't mean on this site of course.

Hehe, I was one of those people. Let the police do their job was my mantra!

Karen was missing 2 weeks and that reporter jumped the gun for sensationalism imo sending BR into hiding. Can you imagine how differently this would have played out if the reporters/media sympathized with BR? His wife was the victim of a random drive-by evil abductor and he, the worried grieving husband waiting to pay the undisclosed 'ransom'. He might have given an 'award winning' interview after a month or two had passed and Karen's body still lay undiscovered.

Most definitely a good tactic once the murderer thinks he's home safe and speaking about the trials and tribulations of the Ristevski clan to all who would listen.
Now it's left to Vasko, AR and anyone else willing who are all poor seconds, imo.