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Well spotted TGY. My impression is an expression of satisfaction, the photo taken after her testimony in the committal. Peas in a pod IMO.Look at the wide grin with Sarah’s companion, I’m thinking the scarf was covering a similar grin. Zoom in & take a look under the scarf.
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I truly hope it begins to dawn on some one in the OPP that 6 years is a time span quite a few blokes in Victoria may conclude is worth it to get rid of a nuisance wife, who has inherited money, with a compliant daughter, and a lot of debt and no way of getting out of that mire without the wife's money which she, in her mad feminine way, keeps referring to the blokes utter incapacity to manage money himself and prefers to keep a tight reign on her money.
Oh yes. There are lots, and possibly, quite a few wives of husbands who's net worth may be way above Karen's range , who have been very , very annoying and controlling about access to the pile. …
6 years. . Hell, you can do 6 years on with one hand tied behind your back, with the prospect of coming out of it well ahead.
Good thing that he has Sarah all signed up as a company member of Envirovision, isn't it?
A financially-unblemished investor who has likely just inherited a little bit of money and a house.
A forensic accountant says he “has no idea” why Borce Ristevski set up a second company to receive funds from his struggling clothing boutique in the months before his wife went missing.
But in December 2015, Mr Ristevski started Envirovision and named himself the director. His daughter, Sarah Ristevski, was a stakeholder. There was no mention in court of Karen’s involvement, if any.
Mr Curtin said Envirovision became effective on July 1, 2016, “for some reason” and “basically took on sales revenue from the shop”.
‘Yelling and screaming’ heard before Karen disappeared
This article is from March 2019.
If the finances were this dire, how have BR and SR been able to keep the house? Something doesn't stack up. The rent would not be able to cover repayments, rates, insurances , maintenance etc. MOO
"The financial stress the couple were experiencing was one key piece for the prosecution. The committal hearing that decided the case should go to trial heard the Ristevskis' fashion boutique, Bella Bleu, recorded losses of $326,000 over four years. They also had credit card debts of more than $80,000, on top of a $715,000 mortgage.
Police had alleged Karen was killed during an argument over finances."
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/...dumping-body-in-bushland-20190313-p513vi.html
Look at the wide grin with Sarah’s companion, I’m thinking the scarf was covering a similar grin. Zoom in & take a look under the scarf.
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Tmar, I believe the house was in Karen's name, and since she is now deceased and if there was mortgage insurance taken out, the home loan gets paid out by the insurance co and goes to next of kin? Can anyone help out on this?I feel there will be LITTLE money, if any remaining from Karen's home.
We must remember, it was heavily mortgaged.
For months possibly BR could not meet these payments, after Karen went missing, having a low paying job to live on for some periods of time.
Then the house was vacant for quite some time.
The interest on that mortgage over all that time, would be a huge pit, even with rent now coming in.
With house prices now in Melbourne greatly decreased, the outstanding mortgage, may cause consideration to sell this home.
MOO.
Here Here PI, the voice that never was but finally today, loving words about Karen and the person she was.And this how is how concerned loved ones behave. Sam thankyou for appearing on tv and giving Karen a voice.
I shock myself that I dislike this girl MORE than her father.Look at the wide grin with Sarah’s companion, I’m thinking the scarf was covering a similar grin. Zoom in & take a look under the scarf.
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Steve, I genuinely feel devastated for you and your family today. Karen was blessed to be a part of a kind and loving family that you have all demonstrated. She would be so proud and thankful.I can't believe the length of sentence but will unfortunately accept it as the judge knows the interpretation of law obviously better than me.
If I was BR I would be extremely happy with the result.
Thanks to all that commented in the posts over the past three years as I have said before there are some very smart members who maybe should have considered a career change years ago or even today for some. I know a number of KR's family often logged in to follow the various thoughts of those who posted . I know they appreciated your feelings and thoughts along the way.
Can't say I enjoyed reading the posts sometimes but it was nice to see for Karen's sake that genuine sorrow for Karen's sad ending was always shown.
Thanks again for sharing your thoughts and concerns in the long and sad journey.
Well, I can see there's no love for Sarah here.
It does highlight why domestic violence is so prevalent in Australia, women are the hated species, mothers, daughters, mistresses, the lady neighbour, men are not responsible for murder, every single time there's a murder case there's the crowd convinced there's a woman behind it, sometimes there is. Karen copped the same crap when she was missing and now, her daughter. AR did seem the likely candidate, he fit the categories I previously posted about patricide but he was eliminated, oh wait, so was SR. Not according to some of the public, police were too incompetent, this is a 'strange' family and SR is a gold mine for ridicule, she's not trying to win the crowd over, damn, doesn't have her father's charisma, what a shame, Borce has won again!
I'm really disappointed by the cries of #domestic violence and justice for Karen when supposedly, poor Borce is doing time for someone else's crime, it's NOT a domestic crime if he's innocent! Shouldn't there be a petition to lessen his sentence and reopen the investigation into Karen's murder to catch the real murderer? Obviously, the police did a sloppy job and didn't check cctv or corroborate witnesses for all parties involved, and a whole new crack team need to be on the case. [/sarcasm]
I understand the strong feelings about Sarah's reference for her father, it's an appalling lack of respect for her mother's memory, I believe she will regret it one day. The judge did call her a victim and that Borce lied and lied to her. At one stage, he may have confessed he accidentally killed Karen and threatened suicide if she didn't stand by him. Sarah is living in complete denial, she's romanticising about her parent's relationship when she was a child, she's not acknowledging those few years preceding the murder, Karen clearly wasn't happy and wanted out.
I'm waiting for John Edward's trial for the murder of his wife, Sharon. It won't be a hot topic, the characters aren't interesting enough. If one of their sons stands by his father and denies he's capable of murder, that he was generous man, bought his wife a house after they separated and was a loving father, will he cop the same hatred as Sarah? I don't think so, he'll receive compassion and understanding because...... he's a man. (The son did post those comments but the trial is yet to come and his position is unknown.)
I don't mean to offend but I can't remain silent, it's not about being right or wrong, this is about domestic violence and partners and their children who become accustomed to a certain kind of 'normal', and the family image is protected at all costs. Many women tolerate unacceptable behaviour and make comments like, 'at least he doesn't hit me'. How sad is that?
Tmar, I believe the house was in Karen's name, and since she is now deceased and if there was mortgage insurance taken out, the home loan gets paid out by the insurance co and goes to next of kin? Can anyone help out on this?
Edgarb you’re right about the house in Karen’s name and I’d bet the farm BR made sure it was insured.
Let’s not forget her superannuation & inheritance.
This judge has made a terrible mistake.
I 100% agree K-mac, the laws need to be changed. A minimum sentence would act as a better deterrent for anyone who is unable to "keep it together" for that moment they decide to take the life of another human being.I shock myself that I dislike this girl MORE than her father.
so disrespectful to her mothers memory
the law needs to change desperately.
murder should never have manslaughter option for a guilty plea.
manslaughter was a just conviction invented for accidently taking someones life.
ie ran over a pedestrian you didn't see in the dark and killed them. "accidently"
not loosing your bundle and lashing out....
I know a in jail for "manslaughter" convicted 10 years.
kidnapped, brutally bludgeoned her with a tyre iron and staged a car crash to hide it. (she had the audacity to start divorce proceedings when he was playing around )
domestic homicide just like domestic violence in itself is treated as a joke in Australian law.
bloody maddening.
I am truly outraged. 6 years. The message this sends about what is acceptable towards women in intimate relationships is disgusting.