Australia Australia - Marion Barter - Missing After Trip to UK - June 1997 #19

[riddlesandpuzzles77]

So on the PVR did I just see RB walking unaided??

HAHA.... forgot to turn off camera.... wish had a lip reader...

 

[TootsieFootsie]

So what next.

Maybe he'll "come down" with alzheimer's

Anyway so glad I don't have to listen to him anymore today.

 

[Behrnsy]

Pretty sure he's putting a incompetent to stand trial defence

 

[Estelle]

So what next.

Maybe he'll "come down" with alzheimer's

Anyway so glad I don't have to listen to him anymore today.

He's trying to pretend he's got something wrong but what is it?

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Pretty sure he's putting a incompetent to stand trial defence

Yep

 

[Behrnsy]

He's trying to pretend he's got something wrong but what is it?

Narcissistic personality disorder

 

[Deleted member 249471]

I'm asking this because I can't remember. I thought it was to officially open an investigation into Marion's disappearance; to establish evidence that supports the fact that she did not vanish of her own will and that she is dead. So for now the inquest is focusing on Marion fitting a pattern of women who were defrauded cruelly and criminally by the same man. Once they do that, do they then have to start a NEW investigation into the perpetrator of her death? I don't understand if Inquest #1 (this one) can establish anything more than Marion's being dead and that she was part of serial fraud. OR can this inquest also recommend that RB is responsible for Marion's disappearance?

Inquests are to determine if there is reasonable grounds to suggest a missing person is dead.
They also attempt to address WHEN and HOW they died.
And also the EVENTS LEADING TO and SURROUNDING their disappearance and death.
The Coroner can say if she believes someone was likely involved with the death.

All of this new info we're getting from witnesses is addressing the events leading to and surrounding her disappearance.

 

[insanity]

I am so curious as to know who the other witnesses are going to be.

Are there definitely more?

 

[Estelle]

Narcissistic personality disorder

Comorbid with other personality disorders which I cannot mention here as it will be deleted.

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

He's trying to pretend he's got something wrong but what is it?

I'm not qualified to comment on psychiatric disorders but there are various known Cluster B personality disorders which can imply altered states of being, shifting personas, rotating ego defences, not having one core true self or moral compass and also being grandiose, entitled, lacking in empathy, and criminally exploitative.

Sometimes people who struggle with these types of thing are keenly aware that there's something not right and different about them.

 

[Deleted member 249471]

Inquests are to determine if there is reasonable grounds to suggest a missing person is dead.
They also attempt to address WHEN and HOW they died.
And also the EVENTS LEADING TO and SURROUNDING their disappearance and death.
The Coroner can say if she believes someone was likely involved with the death.

All of this new info we're getting from witnesses is addressing the events leading to and surrounding her disappearance.

Forgot to say: Inquests also examine if there are any public measures that need addressing so a similar situation doesn't happen in future.

In this case, that is about how police handled the case. That's why Ms Bourke is there, representing police. The Coroner may have words to say on their conduct since Marion disappeared and it will be made public.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

My guess is that he just can't keep track of all the lies he's told.

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

Forgot to say: Inquests also examine if there are any public measures that need addressing so a similar situation doesn't happen in future.

In this case, that is about how police handled the case. That's why Ms Bourke is there, representing police. The Coroner may have words to say on their conduct since Marion disappeared and it will be made public.

I wonder if a measure needs to be taken to keep the public safe from RB?

As he is obviously still well able and capable of repeating his same behaviours and he, as an older man, will now have free access to some of the most very vulnerable and elderly women in society via his 'respite care' place.

I should say his wife urgently needs to be offered some form of deal because surely she's grasped the gravity of this situation now?

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Court is back

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

My guess is that he just can't keep track of all the lies he's told.

Oddly he has a very keen recollection IMO, if I had been scamming all those women all those years and using scores of different names, I'd be hard pressed to know which was is up and where I'd been doing what with at any given time... and I'm 30 years younger that Mr AKA. Let's not forget, we're on the tip of the iceberg here.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

That seems like it

 

[Deleted member 249471]

That's it! no more witnesses

 

[insanity]

And it's over.

 

[hoodunnit]

WTF is that it?!!

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Adjourned for findings at a date yet to be set.