Australia Australia - Peter Falconio, 28, Barrow Creek, NT, 14 Jul 2001

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On 25 February 2002 Patrick Barkham of The Guardian reported “Scientist in dingo case at heart of ambush inquiry”.

He said the forensic expert investigating the baffling ambush of British tourists Joanne Lees and Peter Falconio in the Australian outback made the notorious error which jailed a mother for murdering her baby, it was revealed yesterday. Joy Kuhl identified foetal blood in a car belonging to Lindy Chamberlain - the crucial evidence that led to her conviction for killing her baby daughter, Azaria, near Ayres Rock, in 1980. Six years later, she admitted to a royal commission she was mistaken and the "blood" was an anti-rust chemical. Ms Chamberlain, who claimed a dingo had stolen her baby, was cleared. A film shot by a freelance cameraman for police officers and leaked to Melbourne's Sunday Herald Sun shows Ms Kuhl spraying the orange VW Kombi driven by Mr Falconio, 28, and Ms Lees, 27, to detect traces of sweat and blood. The presence of Ms Kuhl at the heart of the fruitless seven-month search for the body of Mr Falconio and the gunman who attacked him and Ms Lees, is another blow to the credibility of the Northern Territory police investigation.

A senior police commissioner from South Australia was last week drafted in by territory police as they announced a six-week review of the stalled murder hunt. The investigation has been the most expensive in the Northern Territory's history, but officers' handling of key evidence has come under increasing criticism. It was recently revealed that instead of using the high-quality digital master-tape of CCTV footage of a suspect, police taped the images with a domestic video recorder, then spent weeks trying to "enhance" them. It is not the first time that echoes of the Lindy Chamberlain case have emerged in the outback attack, which Ms Lees survived by hiding from a gunman for hours in the desert 185 miles north of Alice Springs.

When suspicions developed about Ms Lees's innocence - which were quashed by police - Australian journalists noted that the "Lindification" of Ms Lees had begun. Ms Chamberlain was subject to a media witch hunt and rumours that the Northern Territory police did little to dispel. Ms Lees, from Huddersfield, recently returned to the scene of her ordeal with a Granada camera crew to film a documentary for Trevor McDonald's Tonight programme. She is believed to have been paid more than £30,000 for her story.

http://netk.net.au/NT/NT16.asp

Lol, I was just going to ask if the lab was the same one who screwed over poor Lindy.

Now I have to spend the next 18 months hoping I don't die here, once we leave the territory I'm good though.
 
You'd think if you were going to the trouble of making this declaration that you'd make it sound a bit more believable.
"Murdoch came back into the pub with blood on his boots"....

Good question... and I asked my self that too...
but then thought,what better way to draw attention to a matter you cannot directly admit too...??
make it as stupid as can be ...in the hope it would be talked about... or be challenged...
as far as I know ,it has not been challenged ????????? and Mr G Atkins is still home...

A statutory declaration is a written statement that allows a person to declare something to be true.

When you make a statutory declaration, you are declaring that the statements in it are true. If you intentionally make a false statement in a declaration, you can be charged with an offence. The penalty for making a false statement in a statutory declaration is a maximum of four years imprisonment.

If you have concerns about a false statutory declaration or a false witness, contact the Australian Federal Police.

http://www.ag.gov.au/Publications/Pages/Statutorydeclarations.aspx
 
Lol, I was just going to ask if the lab was the same one who screwed over poor Lindy.

Now I have to spend the next 18 months hoping I don't die here, once we leave the territory I'm good though.

Lol, I was just going to ask if the lab was the same one who screwed over poor Lindy.

you better believe it...whole cast and crew....
 
Hi t everyone that is still interested in this case.For so long have I been trying to be heard.I offered channel's 9,10 &7 for me to go on a lie detector test.They all declined,even though one of the channels' was able to put the guy that shot the dingo that had Azaria in its mouth,but I had no luck.Even though I was prepared to put up a diamond ring valued at $12,500,as surety that the lie detector couldn't fault me.They still declined The HERALD SUN.
interviewed me for 4hours,they told me that they could not print the story as it would be prejudicial to the case.The case has been over for a long time now and still the truth has not come out.
The things that I spoke to them about [Lees and Falconio] were mainly touristy things.I advised them of the best tourist attractions ,I also advised him of where he could dispose of the Kombi and get a good price.He told me that it was in good condition,&it had only cost him $150 in repairs since they left Sydney.He could not believe how far I had driven that day,& asked me if I had had any speed?I told him I hadn't ,I asked him if he had any?he said no but he might be able to help me out with an eccstasy,I declined telling him had some endone if I needed that sort of drug....JEDDA


Read into it...what you may...but there is truth a in there....
 
Am looking for data plse. Has anyone followed up on James Hepi? Does he have a criminal record?

Hi,just the short answer...yes he has...he was busted in Broome WA for drug running ...
again,another quirk in all of this whole episode...being a KIWI you would think he would have been shipped home ...
never happened , he even got to keep Mr Murdoch's both cars...
Australia,is pretty heavy on criminal records... but not in this case....
 
A quote which conveniently ignored and misinterpreted information which doesn't fit with your wild conspiracy theory. Information which only adds to the proof of his guilt and if it was taken away, his guilt would still be proven 100%.

Like I said, it's attacking a straw man.

My 'claim' is in line with the findings of science and the law. I'm okay with that. There is no reasonable explanation for Murdoch's blood to be on her clothes, on the cable ties he used to bind her wrists and in the car, especially when he says they never met and he wasn't anywhere near the car. That's why he was found guilty of murder.

The DNA for the blood was discredited.
Forensic evidence can be planted. (Remember Hepi collecting Murdoch's cigarette butts?)
The cable ties were taken to the prison and shown to Murdoch by police, he handled them. They also had the handprint of the forensic lab scientist on them.
Read the transcripts and the judge's summing up for the jury and you will know why Murdoch was found guilty.:twocents:

ETA: DNA testing was done by a sample taken from Murdoch's brother.
 
KERR: The evidence from the scene says there is one set of footprints
LEES: Yeah.
KERR: located at the crime scene,and they are yours.
LEES: Just one or two footprints.Only two of mine.
KERR: Yep,The only footprints there were yours
LEES: And there's only two of them.
KERR: I believe there's more.
LEES: Oh.
KERR: And they go in a direct line from the pool of blood to that hiding place,and the length of the stride and the depth of those prints indicate running.Can you account for that?
LEES: I was never at the back of the Kombi,I was never near the pool of blood.
KERR: There was no forensic evidence and no evidence of something being dragged at the scene.
LEES: Something was dragged.so maybe your forensics have lost it,there were his footprints,and you haven't come up with those either.I was lying in the bush for 5 hours and you haven't found that,and it was a full tube of lip balm not just a lid,you haven't found that ......

'No Turning Back' page 125/126

And the lip balm and a bit of gaffa tape was found 5 months later, amazing and in pristine condition and the tape hadn't blown away.
Aboriginal trackers said the person was in the bush for a very short time, perhaps minutes, not 5 hours. And only one set of footprints plus a single print of a size 9 shoe.
Murdoch is abt 190cm, 6'5", he won't be wearing size 9 shoes, and if he is, wouldn't have hopped on one leg.
:twocents:
 
Wait. If Malouf -admitted- to being the man in the CCTV pics, then why is that footage still quoted as 'proof' against Murdoch?

Is there linkable proof Malouf admitted this?

Not I think for a moment that Australia would be better off with Murdoch out of prison, but things are just so incredibly hinky here...

No way the man in the CCTV is 6'5", which Murdoch is.:twocents:
 
Hmmm...it actually got a bit further than an accusation. There was apparently enough to charge him but I can see no record of a conviction.

The case was thrown out because the woman complainant lied about details. She and her daughter lived on the same property as Hepi. They were all mates.:twocents:
 
Murdoch's lawyers called Adelaide-based DNA expert Katrin Both to challenge the technique used by Dr Whitaker, describing it as "very dangerous" and was "pushing science to the limits".
But NT Chief Justice Brian Martin ruled both during pre-trial legal argument and the eight-week trial that the evidence was admissible, saying it had "sufficient scientific basis and general acceptance within the relevant scientific community".

In Britain last week the trial of Omagh bomb suspect Sean Hoey collapsed after the trial judge described low copy number DNA testing as unreliable and lacking validity.

Questioned during Murdoch's trial, Dr Whitaker admitted his laboratory in Britain was the only one in the world that used the technique.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/natio...n-falconio-case/2007/12/23/1198344884102.html
 
No way the man in the CCTV is 6'5", which Murdoch is.:twocents:

Chris Malouf said it was himself..(he would know where he was that night...and what he himself looked like).and it was also to originally discredit the footage
till the powers that be...
found another use for the footage...??
they tried there hardest to damage the original film ....and even hid it in a office draw,till the media made them to present it.... :twocents:
 
On the evening of 7 August 2001, detective Kerr confronted the Joanne Lees with this blunt fact: “If you can’t remember really the way most things happened, how much weight can we place on anything you’ve told us?” Yet during the following missing week , Lees was rehabilitated to a prosecution witness who was used to convict Bradley Murdoch of a concocted murder charge. Think about that. ■
 
Joanna Martin, a respected Darwin-based lawyer, has had a baby with a man who was closely associated with Murdoch's Supreme Court trial for murdering the British backpacker Peter Falconio and abducting his girlfriend, Joanne Lees.

Justice Martin, who sent Murdoch to jail after presiding over the trial, has told the Herald there was nothing improper with his daughter's relationship with the man ...

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2007/12/07/1196813021192.html

Ms Martin works for a legal service in Darwin that handles domestic violence cases. On some days during the trial, which attracted worldwide media interest, she sat in the court's public gallery. The man cannot be named for legal reasons.

A jury with its own jury...?? :blushing:
 
Chief Justice Brian Martin today interrupted Murdoch's trial to protest against claims by Guardian journalist Andrew Clark that the chief prosecutor, Rex Wild QC, had addressed him by his first name in court.


"Every so often, the impressive facade slips: the prosecuting barrister, Rex Wild QC, usually remembers to address the judge as 'your honour' but occasionally calls him 'Brian'," it read.

But outside court, several members of the international media, many of whom have been covering the trial from a media room with CCTV and audio links to the court, said they heard the comment.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2005/oct/24/pressandpublishing.australia

Boys,will be boys !!!! buddies and chums...? :blushing:
 
Lol, I was just going to ask if the lab was the same one who screwed over poor Lindy.

Now I have to spend the next 18 months hoping I don't die here, once we leave the territory I'm good though.

Yep, it was Joy Kuhl in Darwin working away in the unaccredited forensic temporary building which was attached to the police station along a walkway used by everyone and anyone.Apparently it was very cramped in the little portable building which held samples of many cases,items overlapped each other and,as there was not enough room for the freezer used to store samples - it was shoved out in a hallway. Wonder if the old sergeant kept his Gaytime icecreams in the freezer too? :rolleyes:

Around the Alice the soil contains a extraordinary amount of iron,which,when tested gives the same result as blood. I have a interesting,but quite long article about it....somewhere amongst my thousands of files,lol.
 
Chief Justice Brian Martin today interrupted Murdoch's trial to protest against claims by Guardian journalist Andrew Clark that the chief prosecutor, Rex Wild QC, had addressed him by his first name in court.


"Every so often, the impressive facade slips: the prosecuting barrister, Rex Wild QC, usually remembers to address the judge as 'your honour' but occasionally calls him 'Brian'," it read.

But outside court, several members of the international media, many of whom have been covering the trial from a media room with CCTV and audio links to the court, said they heard the comment.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2005/oct/24/pressandpublishing.australia

Boys,will be boys !!!! buddies and chums...? :blushing:

And playwrights

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-05-25/play-on-words-as-azaria-packs-court-again/2730966


http://www.ntnews.com.au/article/2011/05/23/234791_ntnews.html

unbelievable!
 
Joanna Martin, a respected Darwin-based lawyer, has had a baby with a man who was closely associated with Murdoch's Supreme Court trial for murdering the British backpacker Peter Falconio and abducting his girlfriend, Joanne Lees.

Justice Martin, who sent Murdoch to jail after presiding over the trial, has told the Herald there was nothing improper with his daughter's relationship with the man ...

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2007/12/07/1196813021192.html

Ms Martin works for a legal service in Darwin that handles domestic violence cases. On some days during the trial, which attracted worldwide media interest, she sat in the court's public gallery. The man cannot be named for legal reasons.

A jury with its own jury...?? :blushing:



I wonder what the Jury in this case thought of MR Martins sentencing handed down.

I refuse to call him 'Justice' because after reading this I realised he doesn't know the meaning of the word.

http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/35382.html
 
I wonder if the reward for information regarding Peter's whereabouts still stands - as there may be someone who is entitled to it.
 

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