Australia - Russell Hill & Carol Clay Murdered While Camping - Wonnangatta Valley, 2020 #8

[OwlHeart]

The 60 Minutes episode from Sunday is now up on YouTube. For those who may want to watch it. It is just 14½ minutes long.

Feels off ‘liking’ anything with that man’s face on it..but it was an interesting segment however brief.

 

[SouthAussie]

Feels off ‘liking’ anything with that man’s face on it..but it was an interesting segment however brief.

Though it does have Murderer appropriately emblazoned across it.

 

[emirates1957]

That's known as The MacDonald triad. Reviewed here:

The MacDonald triad posits that animal cruelty, fire setting, and bed wetting in childhood is indicative of later aggressive and violent behavior in adults. Researchers refer to this phenomenon as a precursor to later antisocial behaviors including serial and sexual murder; while practitioners cite the triad in clinical formulations and risk assessments. However, there is yet to be a critical review and consolidation of the literature that establishes whether there is empirical support.

This article explores the validity of the triad. We conducted a narrative review of the relevant studies examining the MacDonald triad and its individual constituents. There is evidence that any one of the triad behaviors could predict future violent offending, but it is very rare to find all three behaviors together as predictors. Thus, the empirical research on the MacDonald triad does not fully substantiate its premise. Rather, it would appear that the triad, or its individual constituents, is better used as an indicator of dysfunctional home environments, or poor coping skills in children.

Not the Sum of Its Parts: A Critical Review of the MacDonald Triad - PubMed

The MacDonald triad posits that animal cruelty, fire setting, and bed wetting in childhood is indicative of later aggressive and violent behavior in adults. Researchers refer to this phenomenon as a precursor to later antisocial behaviors including serial and sexual murder; while practitioners...

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Thanks JB absolutely fascinating I would love to know his childhood background.

 

[JudgeJudi]

maybe she has some bees to let out of the hive

If Melanie has read about the Viergevers, I bet she has a swarm of bees in her bonnet, killer bees. I can't begin to imagine what's running through her head right now but this latest news must be devastating.

 

[Sir_Loin]

Here’s an interesting take on Narcissism vs Psychopathy vs Sociopathy.

Source: @narcabusecoach
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Interestingly DSM-5 does not define psychopathy as a disorder. It’s somewhat brought under the banner of Anti-Social Personality Disorder (ASPD).

But from afar Lynn seems to check some of those boxes.

 

[KathPlumber]

Of course there may not even have been any loud music.

The loud music is a weird detail. I don’t reckon you’d risk including it unless loud music had played at some point, because Lynn knew he had seen other folk around. But the fact that Lynn couldn’t say what the music was made me suspicious, he just said it was “the most annoying” music he could think of.Theres no way he wouldn’t remember. How did he play it with no phone reception? Did he have it downloaded in which case his phone would record the song; or does he still have a CD player ?!

Someone (I forget who sorry!) wondered if it might have been R & C who played the music. And GL just incorporated it into his story.

I also agree with the suggestion that it was played to mask other bad behaviour and s cg over an element of surprise.

 

[drsleuth]

Sometimes I think we try to hard to "label" people, when they ate just bad / evil , rotten to the core, horrible, entitled, self centered creeps IMO

 

[sapphire blue]

Thanks JB absolutely fascinating I would love to know his childhood background.

Same. It’s very odd that there’s nothing about his early life, his parents or any siblings. It’s as if his life consisted only of cadets and working for airlines, nothing about schools, friends just a big blank.

It’s as weird as he is

 

[TootsieFootsie]

I looked him up on wikipedia.
So far he doesn't exist there.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

I looked him up on wikipedia.
So far he doesn't exist there.

Maybe I should have looked on WICKEDpedia ;(


Oops posted before I found such a site existed, but for fans of disney etc

 

[emirates1957]

The loud music is a weird detail. I don’t reckon you’d risk including it unless loud music had played at some point, because Lynn knew he had seen other folk around. But the fact that Lynn couldn’t say what the music was made me suspicious, he just said it was “the most annoying” music he could think of.Theres no way he wouldn’t remember. How did he play it with no phone reception? Did he have it downloaded in which case his phone would record the song; or does he still have a CD player ?!

Someone (I forget who sorry!) wondered if it might have been R & C who played the music. And GL just incorporated it into his story.

I also agree with the suggestion that it was played to mask other bad behaviour and s cg over an element of surprise.

From memory in Court that day it was the car radio.