Found Deceased Australia - Samuel Thompson, 22, Albion, Qld, 7 March 2017 *Arrests* #3

[Freya1977]

I spent my 16th year in LA for many reasons. I was a middle class runaway. Having to come back certainly did my head in. I returned whenever I could afford it to the detriment of my own health. I get you.

Ah yes, you get what I mean

Apart from your circumstances, LA draws people in. It gets under your skin. I love it, there's something about the light in LA that makes me extremely melancholy. Maybe I'm just strange, but I think about that city often. I feel homesick for it even though I've never lived there. Strange.

 

[possumheart]

Ah yes, you get what I mean

Apart from your circumstances, LA draws people in. It gets under your skin. I love it, there's something about the light in LA that makes me extremely melancholy. Maybe I'm just strange, but I think about that city often. I feel homesick for it even though I've never lived there. Strange.

Music sounds better there

 

[Freya1977]

"Smudging" to be effective also requires Prayer to the four directions to be effective, and you cleanse yourself first with the smoke, to allow the good spirits to come in.
It is also used before NA ceremonies.

No no, sage is extremely cleansing despite a person's spiritual beliefs and the words they use. It was used long before people put words to it. Visualisation and intention is the key.

- Source: Me, 20 years as a practising pagan witch lol

 

[Freya1977]

Music sounds better there

Yes!!

 

[Horror]

Yes, Psyche testing is one of the requirements, and i think that would be very important when joining the military. They can't have loose cannons running around on the front lines or elsewhere for that matter in a war zone.

You guys and gals are so great so much to catch up on to join the forces takes aprox 6-9 months in general going in at starter level and involves many steps. Most are repeated but more in depth. For example a physical/ psych tests may be more general and then as you pass through application stages the steps and the psych is an in depth one as are other areas they test I have been to open testing day with someone very interesting. Also of note they aptitude test you and then tell YOU what you are able to apply for


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[Horror]

Does anyone else wonder if AD was released from the military for other reasons than physical? He did manage to become a bench press champion with that bad back? Hmmmm.

Hi welcome great point !


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[Karinna]

No no, sage is extremely cleansing despite a person's spiritual beliefs and the words they use. It was used long before people put words to it. Visualisation and intention is the key.

- Source: Me, 20 years as a practising pagan witch lol

Mine was more to do in the context of NA tradition, and the use of white sage, (sacred sage), which grows in Southwestern parts of the Americas. That is the smudge i know, and the only smudge i have seen here in Aus. for purchase is the California White Sage.
Other countries have practiced the same practice, but don't use the white sage but other plants & herbs.
I don't really know what witches use or do though, and am unfamiliar with their practices.

 

[Meeks]

Thanks. I recall earlier in the threads that AD was reported to have left due to a bad back for some reason but was this the 'official' reason or just what he may have reported to family/friends?

 

[possumheart]

No no, sage is extremely cleansing despite a person's spiritual beliefs and the words they use. It was used long before people put words to it. Visualisation and intention is the key.

- Source: Me, 20 years as a practising pagan witch lol

Thank you darling. Just hopped out of my 87 year old bath, with claw feet. Feel so good. The moon is getting good for chrystal charging don't you think?

 

[SouthAussie]

Thanks. I recall earlier in the threads that AD was reported to have left due to a bad back for some reason but was this the 'official' reason or just what he may have reported to family/friends?

I don't believe we are sure if it was reported to family/friends. It was a person who apparently corresponded with him while he was overseas that said about the bad disk in his back.

 

[SouthAussie]

And it is very curious, because he was apparently bench pressing right before he went to Syria, and after he was discharged from Army training. With a bad back? If his back was 'fixed' why not re-enlist in the Army, I wonder?

Thanks for that thought, Meeks. I don't believe we have considered that before, and the timing of everything.



The 22-year-old appeared happy, indulging in a passion for hotted-up cars, socialising with his mates at pub sessions and being deeply committed to the sport of weightlifting, having previously successfully represented Australia at the Oceania Powerlifting and Bench Press Championships in 2013.

So what then made him suddenly decide to travel thousands of kilometres across the world and risk his life joining a Kurdish "People's "Protection Unit" known as the YPG of Rojava engaged in a deadly battle with Islamic State terrorists in Syria?

http://www.smh.com.au/national/kurd...join-the-australian-army-20151210-glkqk0.html

 

[Seabreeze1]

The reverse culture shock of coming back to Australia after being over there could be quite considerable. I know I've felt strange, disconnected and like I don't "belong" after being away travelling, and especially when I've been to a developing country where the difference is so stark. I suffer from depression and anxiety so I'm predisposed to these sorts of phenomena; something like this may have contributed to him going down a negative path.

Reverse culture shock.

You'll note that it states that if it is "involuntary", it is worse. He was forced to come home...

https://www.state.gov/m/fsi/tc/c56075.htm

From that link:

Voluntary versus involuntary reentry: involuntary is worse

Expected versus unexpected reentry: unexpected is harder

Age: reentry may be easier for older people who have been through more life transitions.

Previous reentry experience: the first time is worse.

Length of the overseas stay: the longer the sojourn, the greater the chance for adaptation; hence the harder it may be to leave and come home.

Degree of interaction with the overseas culture: the more involved you become in the local culture the harder it may be to leave it behind.

The reentry environment: the more familiar and supportive the easier the reentry.

Amount of interaction with the home culture during the overseas sojourn: the more familiar the returnee is with changes in the home culture the easier the reentry.

Degree of difference between the overseas and the home culture: the greater the difference, the harder the reentry.

I went on an overseas trip last year for just under a month and I still yearn for it. Almost like a sadness.


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[possumheart]

I don't believe we are sure if it was reported to family/friends. It was a person who apparently corresponded with him while he was overseas that said about the bad disk in his back.

I believe that the official line was a back injury, and to give him credit he may have taken up bench press to rectify that to try and get back into the army if that was his true calling. Then we had a local who reported he had a fondness for steroids around that time. Well ****. I went deaf. The specialists gave me steroids. I stayed deaf. He may have kept grasping and pumping his back. I actually hated the steroids. They were speed. I ditched them fast. But if doctors gave him steroids and he liked them, it might have unhinged him. He was just a kid.

 

[SouthAussie]

I believe that the official line was a back injury, and to give him credit he may have taken up bench press to rectify that to try and get back into the army if that was his true calling. Then we had a local who reported he had a fondness for steroids around that time. Well ****. I went deaf. The specialists gave me steroids. I stayed deaf. He may have kept grasping and pumping his back. I actually hated the steroids. They were speed. I ditched them fast. But if doctors gave him steroids and he liked them, it might have unhinged him. He was just a kid.

Apparently, Dyball told people on FB that he was medically discharged.
I have a friend with a bulging disc, has trouble even walking at times. And it recurs from time to time, even after extensive physio, because they won't have surgery.

But maybe the steroids made a difference? Or maybe it sort of healed up, as he was so young.


One significant incident Dyball flagged on Facebook occurred in 2010 when he revealed that he had suffered a bad setback, failing in a bid to join the Australian Army after being medically discharged before he completed basic training.

.....he wrote that he was "shattered", explaining to friends that just as he was nearly through his training at Kapooka he "bulged a disc" in his back while reaching for his water bottle after a pack march.

http://www.smh.com.au/national/kurd...join-the-australian-army-20151210-glkqk0.html

 

[possumheart]

Apparently, Dyball told people on FB that he was medically discharged.
I have a friend with a bulging disc, has trouble even walking at times. And it recurs from time to time, even after extensive physio, because they won't have surgery.

But maybe the steroids made a difference? Or maybe it sort of healed up, as he was so young.


One significant incident Dyball flagged on Facebook occurred in 2010 when he revealed that he had suffered a bad setback, failing in a bid to join the Australian Army after being medically discharged before he completed basic training.

.....he wrote that he was "shattered", explaining to friends that just as he was nearly through his training at Kapooka he "bulged a disc" in his back while reaching for his water bottle after a pack march.

http://www.smh.com.au/national/kurd...join-the-australian-army-20151210-glkqk0.html

I'm willing to bet they gave him the steroids they gave me. Except he liked them. Thank Christ I hated them.

 

[SouthAussie]

I'm willing to bet they gave him the steroids they gave me. Except he liked them. Thank Christ I hated them.

Either way, we'll never know. Army records are confidential. And no-one will ever say if they didn't make the grade because they reacted badly to the discipline/were unhinged/ argued with officers/got into fights/whatever. Medical discharge is an 'acceptable' reason.

And the Kurdish army may not care about anything like that.

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[possumheart]

Either way, we'll never know. Army records are confidential. And no-one will ever say if they didn't make the grade because they reacted badly to the discipline/were unhinged/ argued with officers/got into fights/whatever. Medical discharge is an 'acceptable' reason.

You know I am reasonable and level headed, I hope. If the poor kid was given the meds I was given he would have turned manic.

 

[Freya1977]

You guys and gals are so great so much to catch up on to join the forces takes aprox 6-9 months in general going in at starter level and involves many steps. Most are repeated but more in depth. For example a physical/ psych tests may be more general and then as you pass through application stages the steps and the psych is an in depth one as are other areas they test I have been to open testing day with someone very interesting. Also of note they aptitude test you and then tell YOU what you are able to apply for


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Thank you for providing this insight

 

[SouthAussie]

You know I am reasonable and level headed, I hope. If the poor kid was given the meds I was given he would have turned manic.

Oh yes, I have certainly heard all the bad things about steroids ... and their continued use.

 

[xmsmadex]

Is anyone ever going to find out more on the guy who was arrested first? The guy whose house the murder occured at? The guy buying acid and a tomahawk? Literally the only information released on AD in this case is his car was caught following ST's and yet hes all this thread talks about. I was hoping locals would have known or heard more about RB too. Rather than focusing on the facts and deciphering truth in rumor everyone is giving their two cents on AD's state of mind based on a photo...

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