Australia - Siege/Ambush at Remote Property - 6 Dead Including 2 Police/Neighbor - Wieambilla (Queensland)

[jjleroche]

From reading every source I can find, and piecing bits together….and JMO

I think Kirk and Brough were on the left side …. And Keeley is on the far left, in the body cam footage, having to dodge logs etc on the side of the driveway …. So closer to the scrub …
And the first two officers shot were on the right hand side of the driveway … (looking in from the road) … I think possibly those on the right were more in a direct line of fire to / from the hide out …. (May they RIP)

Kirk was shot at 9 times on his way to escape and was shot in the hip during his escape …. (9 shots over a distance of approx 100meters is absolutely terrifying) so they didn’t actually miss him …

I think Keeley going left, into the scrub, when Kirk yelled “get back” after the first shot, and staying low saved her life ..

Imagine also hearing this threat …..
He (Kirk) heard the two men say: “that was a mistake boys, come out, come out and get on the f---ing ground or you die”.

Especially when they have just shot your colleagues in front of you …


Reference

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/family-of-slain-officers-rachel-mccrow-and-matthew-arnold-speak-for-the-first-time/news-story/a36d1a3eb445535cb7d2002a80b02b09

It must have been utterly horrifying - I can't find words that would do it justice.
Officer Kirk's bodycam footage was like something out of a terrible nightmare - going from a benign chatty camaraderie with his colleagues one minute, to running for his life in the next, getting shot, and then to top it all off, the "fasten seatbelt" sound dinging loudly (as if he didn't have enough to distract him). IMO he was incredibly calm under the circumstances keeping his cool, and thinking logically.
I am unsure as to whether Officer Brough's bodycam footage has been released, but from reports of what transpired, she also made sound decisions, even though in horrifying danger (her choices - shot to death, or being burned alive) - just nine weeks into the job. I really hope these officers, and everyone involved in their rescue, get all the help they need to heal from this traumatic day. JMO

 

[Rocket333]

It must have been utterly horrifying - I can't find words that would do it justice.
Officer Kirk's bodycam footage was like something out of a terrible nightmare - going from a benign chatty camaraderie with his colleagues one minute, to running for his life in the next, getting shot, and then to top it all off, the "fasten seatbelt" sound dinging loudly (as if he didn't have enough to distract him). IMO he was incredibly calm under the circumstances keeping his cool, and thinking logically.
I am unsure as to whether officer Keely's bodycam footage has been released, but from reports of what transpired, she also made sound decisions, even though in horrifying danger (her choices - shot to death, or being burned alive) - just nine weeks into the job. I really hope these officers, and everyone involved in their rescue, get all the help they need to heal from this traumatic day. JMO

To think that Rachel and Kelly had just introduced themselves to each other after jumping the fence and heading up the drive too. It would have been just the most terrifying and drawn out experience.
I am curious about why the cars were facing the gate rather than the road too, and how Officer Kirk started the car so fast.

 

[SLouTh]

BBM

Gareth Train warned he was “waiting for the police with an eye open” after being informed officers were looking for his missing brother, with an inquest told he had an arsenal of illegal weapons hidden in a secret storage compartment on his Wieambilla bush block.

But the information was not passed on to Queensland police – and if it had been, the highly trained Specialist Emergency Response Team would have likely been sent there to look for former school principal Nathaniel Train.

An inquest into the Wieambilla shootings was told the four young officers who went to the Western Downs property that day had not been told Gareth was paranoid, hated police, had studied military tactics and had a cache of rifles but no gun licence.



It would be helpful to know who actually had this information ???? And when???

Is this what NSW Police knew???? But didn’t pass on???

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Edit to add : (found further info after my initial post)
It seems like it was the information that wasn’t passed on from NSW Police …..

Barrister Gavin Handran questioned whether that additional information, which was known to NSW police and some that was known to someone “close to” Gareth, would “make any difference” for how the four constables responded to the job

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Or was it information gathered by police statements of locals and family etc after the event occurred?? (Hindsight is always an marvellous thing …)

Paywalled for some

https://www.couriermail.com.au/truecrimeaustralia/police-courts-qld/wieambilla-inquest-day-6-triple0-operator-emma-donald-gives-evidence-about-phone-call-to-kerry-dare/news-story/cc1f89fc3ed4b86455ab3068d5727f4d

Also in this free article ..

https://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/courts-law/wieambilla-inquest-police-acted-appropriately-when-attending-the-train-property/news-story/4d6e4e709fcd450c96934170858fe5c1

 

[SLouTh]

how Officer Kirk started the car so fast.

I think he was very fortunate that he had the car keys in his pocket ….. (it could have been a very different outcome, if for example Keeley had the keys …)

In the video he only has to press a button to start the vehicle… I think it’s called “remote access”?? Where you just have to have the key in close proximity and the car automatically unlocks and it’s keyless to start…. Just press the button ( My car is the same set up … )

This is the clearest footage I have found … but it is paywalled …. And you can see him press the button ….

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/moment-by-moment-footage-of-wieambilla-police-shooting/news-story/1130b02abde35389f72f46fc4776d0c8