Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #15

[crabstick]

Those mag wheels on the dark grey car make it distinctive. The two cars combined. All the same, thats an awesome bit of sleuthing. Big kevs excited.

It may have been the same two cars that didn't have anything to do with it. They were there for other reasons. Maybe the TV on the floor house?

The grey car appears deliberately very hard to identify as a vehicle model. A second hand import?

The white car has no distinguishable marks really.

It could just be random crab stick but who knows. The White station wagon caught my eye as I was just cruising along Google earth Kew.

 

[krig101]

No parent can say with certainty that their 3 year old wouldn't run out onto a road. Small children have tunnel vision and very little comprehension of safety. I dont think the parents were saying he would never go on to a road. They were saying he was cautious and wouldnt cross a road by himself.

My five year old wouldn't cross a road by himself and he is not a wanderer. But if a ball he was playing with went on a road, he would probably run straight after it.

Agreed, my 3 year old knows not to go into the road but sometimes gets too preoccupied with running around and "forgets" especially if he spots a puddle at the end of the driveway!

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[Eloise]

I agree with what you say, but i can't think of a very young child such as William that has been a stranger abduction in Aus. The only one i can think of is one of the Beaumont children and the little boy in that case was four years old.

While thankfully rare, it does sadly happen though. I think I know the boy you mean. Taken from his front yard (his dad was working in the house or something) and later found murdered? I can't think of his name.

If we're only talking about kids around WT's age that a definitely stranger abductions (though there's also Joanne Ratcliffe and Kirste Gordon, Kirste being 4), there was a five year old taken from her home in 1984. Still unsolved - at least partly because the main suspect, a convicted sex offender, died in a car accident before the inquest. http://www.mako.org.au/missing-girl-renee-aitkins.html [url]http://www.thatslife.com.au/Article/Real-Life/Real-Life-Stories/My-little-sister-stolen-in-the-night

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[krig101]

Agreed. And it wouldn't be the first time a child was taken from a front yard.

Or back, pretty darn brazen!!!

http://www.9news.com.au/national/20...-for-predator-after-attempted-child-abduction

http://m.perthnow.com.au/news/weste...-walking-in-area/story-fnhocxo3-1227400796108

The boy was left traumatised after a man reportedly scaled a fence, grabbed him from his backyard on Modillion Avenue in Shelley, covered his mouth and dragged him up the street.

UP THE STREET IN BROAD DAYLIGHT!

Oh how I wish someone on Benaroon Drive had security cameras!

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[Imagining]

No parent can say with certainty that their 3 year old wouldn't run out onto a road. Small children have tunnel vision and very little comprehension of safety. I dont think the parents were saying he would never go on to a road. They were saying he was cautious and wouldnt cross a road by himself.

My five year old wouldn't cross a road by himself and he is not a wanderer. But if a ball he was playing with went on a road, he would probably run straight after it.

But there was no ball for WT.

 

[Froglady]

Chloe campbell is one child abduction that springs to mind. Thank fully found pretty quickly though

 

[Karinna]

I think they are onto this one at my pools. Never mind the cameras.
At least 6 pool guards analysing the place at anytime. Then there is the door staff with turn stiles.
Your child is not allowed into a pool without a parent and a supervision arm band.
I guess it does vary place to place; country to country.

And yet Australias kids going from bus stops and driveways. Madeleine McCain from holiday unit.


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Have you read the Official Polícia Judiciária McCann Files? An interesting read if you haven't.

 

[krig101]

But there was no ball for WT.

No ball but Maybe a car that looked like dad's or someone who was reported driving around with a Spiderman figurine.

http://m.smh.com.au//breaking-news-...pedding-figurine-nsw-cops-20150610-3xhte.html

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[Karinna]

Chloe campbell is one child abduction that springs to mind. Thank fully found pretty quickly though

Someone known to the family i think.

 

[Karinna]

While thankfully rare, it does sadly happen though. I think I know the boy you mean. Taken from his front yard (his dad was working in the house or something) and later found murdered? I can't think of his name.

If we're only talking about kids around WT's age that a definitely stranger abductions (though there's also Joanne Ratcliffe and Kirste Gordon, Kirste being 4), there was a five year old taken from her home in 1984. Still unsolved - at least partly because the main suspect, a convicted sex offender, died in a car accident before the inquest. http://www.mako.org.au/missing-girl-renee-aitkins.html [url]http://www.thatslife.com.au/Article/Real-Life/Real-Life-Stories/My-little-sister-stolen-in-the-night

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The boy i was talking about was this case that remains unsolved to date:
Jane Nartare Beaumont (aged 9; born 10 September 1956), Arnna Kathleen Beaumont (aged 7; born 11 November 1958), and Grant Ellis Beaumont (aged 4; born 12 July 1961) were three siblings collectively known as the Beaumont children who disappeared from Glenelg Beach near Adelaide, South Australia, on Australia Day, 26 January 1966.[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaumont_children_disappearance

 

[Wozzie]

Teams, sometimes spotters out wider to make sure its not going wrong. Keep an eye on the wider movements. Once the jobs done, the spotter walks.

Spotters on the ready to make a distraction/commotion if plan starts to go wrong even?

 

[Eloise]

The boy i was talking about was this case that remains unsolved to date:
Jane Nartare Beaumont (aged 9; born 10 September 1956), Arnna Kathleen Beaumont (aged 7; born 11 November 1958), and Grant Ellis Beaumont (aged 4; born 12 July 1961) were three siblings collectively known as the Beaumont children who disappeared from Glenelg Beach near Adelaide, South Australia, on Australia Day, 26 January 1966.[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaumont_children_disappearance

Oh right. I misread your post. I thought you meant the boy I was talking about plus the Beaumont children.

 

[Karinna]

I was talking about stranger abduction cases in Australia of children under the age of five years old, which would be before they start school, and i couldn't think of any apart from the Beaumont child, who was the youngest sibling in that case.

 

[catswhiskers]

I was talking about stranger abduction cases in Australia of children under the age of five years old, which would be before they start school, and i couldn't think of any apart from the Beaumont child, who was the youngest sibling in that case.

As a child growing up in Brisbane, I was aware of this dreadful case:
http://www.mako.org.au/unsolved-murders-Deidre-Kennedy.html
There really seemed to be a spate of child abductions when I was young - I know my parents were very cautious because of this.

 

[catswhiskers]

And Cowan left a 6 year old (I don't think we need quibble about young children's ages) for dead - naked, bashed and suffocated in an abandoned car years prior to his abduction of Daniel Morcombe. Plenty of other child victims in his disgusting past as well.
http://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/daniel-morcombe-trial-what-the-jury-wasnt-told-about-brett-cowan/story-fnj90t7b-1226853796688

 

[jessie]

Something I've been trying to find reference to was, I think, a white 4 WD seen driving at speed in the area that day?
Am I mis-remembering? I have tried the "search" without luck (probably not doing it right).
Anyone help me out please? TIA.

 

[erinp]

I was talking about stranger abduction cases in Australia of children under the age of five years old, which would be before they start school, and i couldn't think of any apart from the Beaumont child, who was the youngest sibling in that case.

There is this one: Simon Brook, lured and murdered at the age of 3

http://www.smh.com.au/national/child-killer-stays-silent-on-death-bed-20130724-2qiwq.html

Deirdre Kennedy, less than 2 years old

http://www.qt.com.au/news/murder-that-stole-ipswichs-innocence-innocence/1819762/

 

[Karinna]

And Cowan left a 6 year old (I don't think we need quibble about young children's ages) for dead - naked, bashed and suffocated in an abandoned car years prior to his abduction of Daniel Morcombe. Plenty of other child victims in his disgusting past as well.
http://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/daniel-morcombe-trial-what-the-jury-wasnt-told-about-brett-cowan/story-fnj90t7b-1226853796688

Not quibbling about anything, the point of my post was about the statistics on children of certain age groups that are more likely to be abducted by strangers, and i was researching the children in Australia under the age of 5 that have been abducted by a complete stranger that weren't known to their family and i couldn't find anything about that apart from the case i mentioned. Hope that puts it into context for you.

 

[Makara]

Something I've been trying to find reference to was, I think, a white 4 WD seen driving at speed in the area that day?
Am I mis-remembering? I have tried the "search" without luck (probably not doing it right).
Anyone help me out please? TIA.

The second sighting was of a four-wheel-drive driving out of Benaroon Drive about 10.30am - when William vanished - and was later seen speeding down another Kendall street.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/william-t...appearance-20150907-gjgpr1.html#ixzz3ljG7OTun
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Also of interest is a 4WD seen leaving Benaroon Drive around time of disappearance, which is possibly the same vehicle that was seen speeding in the area shortly prior to what Mr Jubelin described as William's "abduction".

Read more at http://www.9news.com.au/national/20...am-tyrrells-disappearance#iEhVOVZKx4wHhOlQ.99

 

[sosocurious]

Is it still OK to discuss Anthony Jones - given he has gone back to being identified in court list as AJ.

If not I will delete.