Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - # 4

[Belz]

OT: nothing to add but mods my text box was just greyed out - took 3 refreshes to be able to type this :dunno:

 

[Angeline]

I get confused with this? Are we not allowed to sleuth anyone on social media or just family members? As WT family members are the ones that took him to Kendall then anyone else should not be classed as family members.

Both, we can't sleuth anyone on social media, or family members. We can only link to official FB pages for news sources. Maybe the rules on this thread are tighter than other threads, but it's something we have to respect if we want to keep the thread open.

I think the only time it's safe to discuss anything regarding a family member, is when it's a fact mentioned in the news. E.g. What day the family arrived in Kendall, or if they had been there before. Even then you have to be careful that whatever you type doesn't imply guilt or involvement.

 

[Amee]

I get confused with this? Are we not allowed to sleuth anyone on social media or just family members? As WT family members are the ones that took him to Kendall then anyone else should not be classed as family members.

Page 22 of this thread Tricia's post #537

 

[bearbear]

if forensics find nothing from the spedding search to implicate him in the disappearance of william, would it be police procedure to hold a press conference to say the search turned up nothing of interest? would it also mean if they dont announce anything that their silence to the media means they do have something of interest theyre working on for hopefully an arrest?
or would spedding be notified privately if there was nothing and he could then tell msm himself if he chose to?

surely the computer has been checked by now, unless files have been hidden and require specialist techs

 

[Angeline]

Maybe this
A truck driver had noticed a black camry in the area several times last Friday.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/police-st...yrell-3-turns-up-nothing-20140919-10j9tj.html

I have done a bit of independent "sleuthing". All I can say is that a tradesperson-type van and a maroon coloured sedan have been seen at the property since the raid. I don't know about a black sedan, but the media had said that 2 of the 3 cars taken for testing had been returned. I'm wondering if a site such as the Daily Mail has a photo of all the cars at the property at the time of the raid?

 

[ozazure]

if forensics find nothing from the spedding search to implicate him in the disappearance of william, would it be police procedure to hold a press conference to say the search turned up nothing of interest? would it also mean if they dont announce anything that their silence to the media means they do have something of interest theyre working on for hopefully an arrest?
or would spedding be notified privately if there was nothing and he could then tell msm himself if he chose to?

surely the computer has been checked by now, unless files have been hidden and require specialist techs

Given the coverage in the media, I think some word would be ethical. I understand they probably can't risk publicly exonerating him but at least saying there is nothing found which supports pressing any charges would be something.

You would think preliminary results would be in, but say they've come up empty handed on their first look at everything, they would probably do more thorough testing but it perhaps wouldn't be given the same priority. I dunno, I'm just guessing. I just know these things never have the resources behind them we'd hope - they have to prioritise their efforts.

 

[bearbear]

so would not hearing anything about their forensic results mean they have found something? or wont we know either way, unless there is an arrest?

 

[Angeline]

If he does get cleared, they really should announce it. It would be awful to go through that.

 

[ozazure]

so would not hearing anything about their forensic results mean they have found something? or wont we know either way, unless there is an arrest?

I don't think we can know either way. I mean, I know I keep bringing up Daniel Morcombe but it is because I just read Where is Daniel, but they had Cowan's confession and then days until his trip to where be left Daniel's remains and even then it was the day after he was arrested if I remember correctly. I think they could have something compelling and then be monitoring Spedding for William's whereabouts. Could be a very long process even if they're onto the right person. Back to Cowan, they took forensic evidence from his car within the fortnight (subsequently not tested and lost by the by), had him in the location by his own statement and didn't blow up his alibi for years. Took a decade for a conviction.

It does seem so odd that he could live a life without reproach and then suddenly abduct and kill a toddler. Not many with those predilections that can keep themselves under control for their whole adult life. Unless there is some sort of dementia starting. There were a few gross old men on my meals on wheels route years ago that's for sure.

 

[Surfingsunflower]

From an article back in September 2014; "Police are still investigating a number of tips, including reports that a 'well-dressed, well-spoken' man stopped at a local shop on Friday morning to ask directions to Batar Creek Road,which leads to Benaroon Drive where William was last seen".
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2760087/Police-believe-William-Tyrell-3-picked-car-crews-preparing-search-roads-nearby-forest-hope-finding-alive-fades.html

BBM

Did anything come of this?

 

[Karo]

Another thought, perhaps the police do have an idea of who took him and are biding their time, hoping the person gets lazy and comes out of hiding.

 

[butterstick]

Another thought, perhaps the police do have an idea of who took him and are biding their time, hoping the person gets lazy and comes out of hiding.

Yes something around that has been suggested a few times.

Problem I have with this is that it implies WT isn't visible to them. If they know who was involved, but WT isn't visible, then that is a worry.

 

[bearbear]

Caravan park searched in the hunt for missing toddler William Tyrell

Murder detectives raid properties searching for evidence
A fibro cabin in a caravan park on the NSW mid-north coast has been searched by police investigating the disappearance of toddler William Tyrell after residents reported hearing cries of a child in the weeks after the three-year-old vanished

Police searched a cabin at The Haven caravan park at Laurieton, just south of Port Macquarie at the end of last week.
The cabin is one of many properties searched since the three-year-old disappeared from his grandmother's home in the neighbouring town of Kendall on September 12.

Revelations of the caravan park search come after homicide detectives raided a home at nearby Bonny Hills and a unit above a set of shops at neighbouring Laurieton on Tuesday, seizing a mattress and computer equipment.

The owner of the caravan park told Fairfax Media that a resident had called police after hearing a child crying in a cabin where a middle-aged couple from Victoria stayed from September 28 to October 9.
"They heard an infant crying and they thought it was coming from that cabin," the owner said.

"We don't have kids, [nor are there] many children in the park; they are all retired here, so it is an unusual sound," he said.

"Police came here. They wanted to have a look through even though I'd been through that cabin since. We went down because obviously there might have been a body in there or [the police] thought there could be."

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/caravan-p...g-toddler-william-tyrell-20150121-12ux0y.html

i wonder why msm havent posted any photos from the caravan park?

 

[Kyja]

The cabins at the caravan park that was searched can be seen if you have a look in google street view. You can scroll up and down the street and can see the small fibro cabins.

 

[spiritualdreaming]

What I can't understand is if the police had information about the caravan not long after WT went missing, then why wasn't it raided sooner.

Normally when you stay in a caravan park you have to by law declare how many occupants will be staying for fire hazard reasons. So was the caravan park owners told only 2 adults where staying for the week or did they declare a child would be there as well??

 

[SouthAussie]

What I can't understand is if the police had information about the caravan not long after WT went missing, then why wasn't it raided sooner.

Normally when you stay in a caravan park you have to by law declare how many occupants will be staying for fire hazard reasons. So was the caravan park owners told only 2 adults where staying for the week or did they declare a child would be there as well??

Maybe the caravan park was checked earlier, SD. But possibly it was too late to see the people that had a small child with them who was crying. Or maybe the small child had been passed along already .. or wasn't crying any more and was out of sight.

Just bumping my post from earlier in the thread.

I just wanted to bump this post from Amee back in Thread 2, as it may have some significance (BBM).

Originally Posted by Amee

Here is another version.

They’ve been interviewing known sex *offenders in the area, in nearby towns and in caravan parks.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/subs...type=anonymous

Unfortunately, the Australian article is now subscriber only - though it wasn't at the time.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...-NSW-12th-Sept-2014-2&p=10987443#post10987443


I was actually looking for an old post about the police having contacted known sex offenders, but there was one they couldn't find. I am almost positive that I read that here quite a while ago. But I can't find the post. :sigh:

 

[spiritualdreaming]

Maybe the caravan park was checked earlier, SD. But possibly it was too late to see the people that had a small child with them who was crying. Or maybe the small child had been passed along already .. or wasn't crying any more and was out of sight.

Just bumping my post from earlier in the thread.

So I wonder if a known sex offender resides at the same caravan park that was searched recently?

 

[Angeline]

Well spotted, SouthAussie. The pieces of the puzzle could be coming together. Could WS be associated with this somehow, maybe not as an offender but as an associate?
There has been so much speculation over who took William. It's sickening to think about sex offenders I really hope police are not having to go down that path but it kind of looks like they are

 

[SheepMan]

Drug raid in Laurieton By Mark Gallagher April 3, 2014, noon

This caravan park isn't so squeaky clean.....

A 23-year-old resident of Camden Haven's Christmas Cove Caravan Park has been refused bail and will appear in court in Port Macquarie on Friday, April 4, to face a number of charges relating to drugs and other alleged offences, following a police raid on Thursday morning.





http://www.camdencourier.com.au/story/2195131/updated-photos-drug-raid-in-laurieton/

It's all coming together now it seems....great find!

 

[Snoop Dog]

Drug raid in Laurieton By Mark Gallagher April 3, 2014, noon

This caravan park isn't so squeaky clean.....

A 23-year-old resident of Camden Haven's Christmas Cove Caravan Park has been refused bail and will appear in court in Port Macquarie on Friday, April 4, to face a number of charges relating to drugs and other alleged offences, following a police raid on Thursday morning.





http://www.camdencourier.com.au/story/2195131/updated-photos-drug-raid-in-laurieton/

Is that the same caravan park that was raided regarding the child's cries? I thought in msm it was just called The Haven Caravan Park, I could be wrong though.

"Police searched a cabin at The Haven caravan park at Laurieton, just south of Port Macquarie at the end of last week." - http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/caravan-p...g-toddler-william-tyrell-20150121-12ux0y.html