AZ - Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6, Tucson, 20 April 2012 - # 3

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It just bothers me when we don't know when outsiders last saw the child...same with Lisa, same with Ayla...JMO
 
~n/t~ said:
Watched Vinnie's coverage on HLN. Don't know why I still watch him. I used to love him but he's been getting on my nerves lately.

Anyway, he was obsessed with the dogs not barking and he thought it was interesting and of course, Mike Brooks chimed in with the Lisa Irwin case and the neighbours dogs barking at him and Jim Spellman when they were there but stopped after they got to know them.

Sunny Austin put in her :twocents: worth and said she can't understand anyone going into a house, snatching a child without anyone hearing them.

Did these folks forget Jessica Lunsford case and even Elizabeth Smart? Yes, Elizabeth's sister witnessed it but do they not realize that if she didn't, it would also be like this case?

OK enough of my rant but what I did find very disturbing (and I'll take the reporting with a grain of salt), was Natisha (NG's producer) said when LE was asked if Isabel was at school on Friday, they didn't want to comment. She also said they called the school and the school refused to comment. Furthermore, family members apparently would not confirm who and when the last person to see Isabel (outside family).

When was the last time Isabel was seen by anyone besides her family? TIA
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I don't know why, but I'm not really all that bothered by whether the dogs barked or not. From the news conferences I've seen already though, TPD is not confirming if the dogs barked, if any of the neighbors heard them barking, etc...

I will say that I have a rat terrier. She's a good dog and during the daytime, she's a "busybody". She's ruined two sets of my blinds barking at people and other dogs walking by. At night, however she sleeps in our bedroom. She sleeps like a rock. If I have to move her, it's like moving a sack of potatoes....lol.
 
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Dr. Know? said:
90 to 95% of the area homes they have made contact with. Some may be foreclosed homes, abandoned homes, but they are keeping their presence in the area in case they return to their homes.
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OK, that's not straight. The police can find out in a heartbeat who is living in or owns the homes they have not had direct contact with...so saying they're maybe foreclosed or abandoned like LE doesn't know for sure is a little misleading.....
 
cluciano63 said:
I agree that it is disturbing that when Isobel was last seen alive by anyone outside of the family should be such a secret...JMO
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Bugs me too. Makes me wonder when was it Isabel was really seen?!
 
My dog understands Swedish, FTR.

RE: The 4pm presser: Did anyone catch what was said when asked by a reporter if they thought it could be constructive for the family to speak to the media? It was a VERY strange response by the officer, IMO. He did say something to the effect that it was their call, up to them...and the weird part was something about a suspect...as if he started to say something, then stopped and again repeated that it was the family's call. If anyone else caught that, do tel
 
Last night Nancy showed photos with red circles around windows but the windows were for the garage.
 
KnicksFan said:
OK, that's not straight. The police can find out in a heartbeat who is living in or owns the homes they have not had direct contact with...so saying they're maybe foreclosed or abandoned like LE doesn't know for sure is a little misleading.....
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Ha ha, I thought the same thing. Foreclosed they should have info on but I don't know. There are out of state owners in Tucson so it might be some of them. Could be an abandoned rental with out of state owners? If someone does live in a house and hasn't been around, neighbors haven't seen them since last week, I'm sure that is who they are focusing on to include or exclude. Just guessing though. Oh and that was my may be not the Chief's words.
 
Taminator said:
I don't know why, but I'm not really all that bothered by whether the dogs barked or not. From the news conferences I've seen already though, TPD is not confirming if the dogs barked, if any of the neighbors heard them barking, etc...

I will say that I have a rat terrier. She's a good dog and during the daytime, she's a "busybody". She's ruined two sets of my blinds barking at people and other dogs walking by. At night, however she sleeps in our bedroom. She sleeps like a rock. If I have to move her, it's like moving a sack of potatoes....lol.
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I'm not bothered by no barking either. Honestly, mine sound like yours. They bark their buns off with passerbys, but when people come in, they just wiggle, kidney bean, wag and try to convince the visitor to play fetch...
 
Starry Night said:
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So far I keep seeing stuff about ppl i'm sure i'll see at work tomorrow :banghead: It's been verrry interesting reading lol!
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cluciano63 said:
It just bothers me when we don't know when outsiders last saw the child...same with Lisa, same with Ayla...JMO
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That bothers me also. Especially in this case because Isabel was supposed to be in school on Friday. It should've been an easy yes or no reply. If no, why wasn't she at school? Was she ill?

When we get the "no comment" replies, it usually means they don't want us to know for a reason, imo. I get very antsy when that happens and I start questioning everything else.

In Lisa's case, the neighbour IIRC confirmed seeing her that day before mom allegedly put her to bed so at least there is a timeline of some sort.

Here, we don't except from family. Doesn't mean I think the family is involved but why the secrecy? IMO
 
~n/t~ said:
That bothers me also. Especially in this case because Isabel was supposed to be in school on Friday. It should've been an easy yes or no reply. If no, why wasn't she at school? Was she ill?

When we get the "no comment" replies, it usually means they don't want us to know for a reason, imo. I get very antsy when that happens and I start questioning everything else.

In Lisa's case, the neighbour IIRC confirmed seeing her that day before mom allegedly put her to bed so at least there is a timeline of some sort.

Here, we don't except from family. Doesn't mean I think the family is involved but why the secrecy? IMO
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I hope we don't hear she was sick...too many of those cases already.
But she supposedly being awoken for a sport of some kind, so I doubt she was....

Still, it should be a simple answer...was she at school? Yes___No___
 
Madilu said:
My dog understands Swedish, FTR.

RE: The 4pm presser: Did anyone catch what was said when asked by a reporter if they thought it could be constructive for the family to speak to the media? It was a VERY strange response by the officer, IMO. He did say something to the effect that it was their call, up to them...and the weird part was something about a suspect...as if he started to say something, then stopped and again repeated that it was the family's call. If anyone else caught that, do tel
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Cool about the Swedish. :rocker:

I didn't catch that part of the presser as the feed was choppy...
 
~n/t~ said:
That bothers me also. Especially in this case because Isabel was supposed to be in school on Friday. It should've been an easy yes or no reply. If no, why wasn't she at school? Was she ill?

When we get the "no comment" replies, it usually means they don't want us to know for a reason, imo. I get very antsy when that happens and I start questioning everything else.

In Lisa's case, the neighbour IIRC confirmed seeing her that day before mom allegedly put her to bed so at least there is a timeline of some sort.

Here, we don't except from family. Doesn't mean I think the family is involved but why the secrecy? IMO
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BBM.

Actually, no. IINM, the female neighbor was never quoted in the media...she remained entirely mum. The media (or a rumor) said that female neighbor/drinking buddy's young daughter (4-ish?) saw Lisa alive that evening before the everly-changing supposed bedtime of Lisa..
 
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