AZ - Jorden Marie Simms, 28, accused officer of rape, dies in police custody, Safford, 27 Dec 2019

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If she was doing a runner she would need to be wearing her shoes. Doesn't smell right to me.
 
We won't know for sure until the test results are back but is it really that hard to believe a drug addict with multiple warrants managed to slip their cuffs? I've seen this happen. Also if the deceased had been able to stall standing near the open rear door she'd definitely be able to adjust it's position. As for the shoes - need to slip those off to take off foot brackets.

Essentially this seems plausible. I realize anti-police sentiment is in the air these days but our first responders primarily deal with the craziest amongst us and maybe we shouldn't rush to condemn people. My 2 cents. But I'll eat my words if the results are positive
 
This girl was clearly very troubled at the time of her death. It seems maybe there were some mental health issues going on as well. I don't think I can believe anything this girl has said. What are the odds that she would first be sexually assaulted by a police officer, let alone in a hospital ER, where staff could and often do walk in at any moment, then within hours she is sodomized by a female law enforcement employee, let alone in the literally two minutes that they were somewhat alone together in the shower, and under video surveillance just outside the shower. I just don't believe it ever happened, however I'm not saying that SHE didn't believe it happened in her own mind. Maybe she lied, maybe she had mental health issues causing her to make the accusations. I just don't believe anyone sexually assaulted her. And the forensics seem to agree.

It's a sad case all the way around, especially for her children who have now been left motherless. And for the law enforcement staff who were wrongly accused of sexual assault.
 
Vail said:
I've only ever seen the cage of a patrol car to take someone out of it, but don't they normally lack a way to open from the inside and have child locks to prevent this exact problem?
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Smart question. I have been arrested in my younger years and I can tell you without hesitation you cannot open the car from the inside. If you could people like myself would have gladly opened the door and walk the heck out of a bad situation. As an adult I would not behave as such but as a teenager, yes I would have. I was a horrible child.
I just do not see her slipping her cuffs and then opening the back door. It feels wrong. Plus why was he anywhere near her? She just accused him of rape.
 
StrangeOne said:
Smart question. I have been arrested in my younger years and I can tell you without hesitation you cannot open the car from the inside. If you could people like myself would have gladly opened the door and walk the heck out of a bad situation. As an adult I would not behave as such but as a teenager, yes I would have. I was a horrible child.
I just do not see her slipping her cuffs and then opening the back door. It feels wrong. Plus why was he anywhere near her? She just accused him of rape.
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Please provide a link for your claim he ( French ) was anywhere near her. TIA
 
The case of this young woman is troubling. I does happen that vulnerable people are abused by officers who hold them in custody. I believe we are still waiting for the test results.

I would offer that this young woman was highly troubled with possible serious mental health or addiction issues but there can be truth in her initial story. Even if it is born out that she was not abused, a good full investigation is better for everyone in the long run.
 
Upon returning to the jail from her exam early on Dec. 24, Simms claimed she was sodomized by a detention officer, later identified in police records as Kianna Bays........

It's unclear when Simms first reported the alleged sexual assault. She claimed to have told multiple jail employees before her allegation was officially documented in a Dec. 24 report from a sheriff's deputy.

Simms said she was taken into a shower room to change her clothes soon after returning to jail, which footage shows was just before 3 a.m. The deputy took Simms' report that night.

There, Simms said a detention officer put an object into her rectum after she bent over and coughed, the report stated. She said she didn't know what the object was and couldn't recall the detention officer's name, according to body camera video from the deputy.

"She said, 'This is what it feels like to really be sexually assaulted,' " Simms said in the video. "And then she tells me that 'who's going to believe me because I already just cried wolf about what French did.'......

Footage shows Bays reemerge about 3 a.m. with nothing in her hands and handcuffs hanging off her belt. After retrieving toilet paper for Simms — who's still in the shower room — Bays walks toward a detention officer several feet away and gives him an item from her left shirt pocket, footage shows. It's unclear what the item was, but surveillance footage appears to show a pen.

She again stated she didn't know what object was used during the alleged sodomy, adding that when she tried to look the detention officer pushed her head into a bar on the wall in front of her.

Bays was assigned to a different post the following night and "has not worked since that time," according to another report. Records show she resigned from the sheriff's office in February.


The rape kit test results for Simms were inconclusive despite male DNA being present, according to a scientific examination report from the Arizona Department of Public Safety.

A low-level amount of male DNA was detected on three anal swabs collected from Simms' body, according to the report. The amount, however, was unlikely to produce a useable profile, the report states.

Additionally, there appeared to be no signs of forced penetration during Simms' sexual-assault exam related to the alleged sodomy, the examiner told authorities during a Dec. 27 interview. Simms' autopsy report also didn't note any signs of sexual trauma either.

"I didn't see any injury that was consistent with forcing an object into her rectum, there was no tears noticeable to me," the examiner said. She did notice possible new bruises on Simms' legs and a horizontal mark on her forehead, she said.

Police records related to Simms' first sexual assault exam were not provided to The Republic.


Records show final days of Jorden Simms, who died in police custody
 
Something is funny with that video. She is not moving at all on the ground after the "fall" from the van.

And the cop that comes up to her first does not check on her at all, he walks right past her.
 
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