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I'm not worried about us adopting it, I'm disgusted that it exists anywhere.
When the world is sick we don't hesitate to send them our medicine, and people think it's good..
When the world is hungry we don't hesitate to send them our food, and people think it's good.
But when the world is barbaric why does everyone object to us sending them some of our culture? It is WRONG to treat women and girls as less than human, no matter how many generations before have done it.
This is not a phenomenon, it's an abomination. And I'm with you in being glad this girl is getting out of that "family", looks like the older sister is too far gone and ready to perpetuate it when she gets the chance.
No, I'm not PC. Never have been, never will be. Some things people do are just plain wrong. Some things other cultures do are just plain wrong as well, and in my eyes this makes that culture inferior.
I'm not worried about us adopting it, I'm disgusted that it exists anywhere.
When the world is sick we don't hesitate to send them our medicine, and people think it's good..
When the world is hungry we don't hesitate to send them our food, and people think it's good.
But when the world is barbaric why does everyone object to us sending them some of our culture? It is WRONG to treat women and girls as less than human, no matter how many generations before have done it.
This is not a phenomenon, it's an abomination. And I'm with you in being glad this girl is getting out of that "family", looks like the older sister is too far gone and ready to perpetuate it when she gets the chance.
No, I'm not PC. Never have been, never will be. Some things people do are just plain wrong. Some things other cultures do are just plain wrong as well, and in my eyes this makes that culture inferior.
I agree with you 100%, . These people obviously came to the US with dreams of a better life. How that life could include rape and shunning the victim of a horrific crime is baffling to me. IMO, those things shouldn't be considered cultural preferences, but part of the reason they fled their homeland. Whatever they call it, it's morally wrong and ILLEGAL.
I wouldn't call the attitude of this family a cultural preference. It is a belief system woven deeply into the fabric of their consciousness. That doesn't make it right, of course, but it is more complicated than a preference.
I'm sure no one needs a history lesson here, but in our own country, women haven't even had the right to vote for an entire century. Sometimes we are slow to change our most deeply held prejudices.
It is easy to subjugate any weaker group or minority. The United States is certainly ahead of the curve when compared to some other countries regarding subjugating humans, but there's still room for improvement.
It's sad to me that any adult could blame a child for being assaulted, and I am all about sending a clear message that such a belief is wrong. But I remain empathetic to the fact that messages (no matter how aberrant) that have been drilled into people's heads and hearts for years can have a real hold on them.
To me the difference is that food and medicine are welcomed by the people receiving it. Us "sending" them our culture to correct their moral shortcomings (in our perception) is not invited or welcomed.
Just like we welcomed help during the Katrina disaster, but we would be up in arms if some country was sending us their culture to correct our "moral shortcomings" and you know there are many countries that think we have many.
To me we have more than enough issues to deal with at home and are in no position to be policing the world and their actions. We should lead by example and stay out everyone else's business. MOO
I would agree with you normally. However, this crime occurred on American soil and rape is NOT a "moral shortcoming." It is a crime and this child is a victim. We did not go anywhere to subject another culture to our beliefs. THEY WERE LIVING IN ARIZONA, FGS.
I don't care how anyone spins this, this little girl was GANG-RAPED. It's not ok - anywhere, anytime, ever.
Surely the parents will be facing child abandonment charges?
I hope not
but only because i would be afraid they would say oh we change are mind we love are daughter we want her back and she no way in high heavens needs to go home
and i hope they have no other minors in the home
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The very fact that the girl's family, as well as all of the boy's families, came to the US for a better life speaks volumes. If not violence and rape, what were they attempting to escape? What is left besides murder?.......
My heart goes out to this little girl.
One thing I want to know... what about the parents of the rapists? Have those boys also been shunned for what they did? Or is the mindset that of blaming the victim and this little 8 yo girl tempted them and so she's the only one to blame?
Imo the only one who brought shame to the girls family is the family themselves and all I can say is Shame on you!!!
VB
What a horrible thought. I hope that never happens. Never, never, never.They were already on the news saying they wanted her back.
This is the point. I have no trouble taking the position that some things are just plain wrong. It doesn't matter to me that some people, some cultures, may have done it in the past and/or are still doing it now.
Let's try this question: "Is it OK to torture and kill animals for entertainment?"
Choices:
1) Yes.
2) No.
3) Well, if some people who look different from me have been doing it for years we shouldn't say it's wrong, so I won't condemn it and I'll support their right to do it.
In my opinion - and I understand there are some here who disagree with me - treating female children as less human than their brothers, making them responsible for being raped, and discarding them like trash because they were raped, is just plain wrong. I know that it has happened in the past, that does not mean it should continue. The fact that we cannot stop it everywhere today does not mean we should not oppose it where we can.
To be clear, I UNDERSTAND why they feel this way. I do not accept it as being morally equivalent to how I feel. I believe their attitude is inferior to mine on this issue, and I'm sufficiently non-PC to say it openly. I believe if everyone in this world who considers women inferior to men would stop it, they would become better people.
Of course, I could be wrong.