CA Bailey Cameron, 23, Camp Pendleton Marine, last seen outside bar, San Diego, 25 August 2024

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azure said:
"Officials at Camp Pendleton have not confirmed any speculative sightings of Cameron on the installation, but local commands remain dedicated to finding him.

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The family claims a Marine spotted Cameron on Saturday the 31st around 11:30 p.m. and reported active signs of distress before running away toward the ocean."

So the sighting is unconfirmed by officials, but military officials are always tight-lipped. Could Bailey have been on base without there being some record of it? Is it possible from a size/security standpoint that he was hiding on base for an extended period of time?
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It's a very large installation, occupying the coast between the San Diego and OC metro areas. There are over 42K service members and 38K dependants living on base: Camp Pendleton | Base Overview & Info | MilitaryINSTALLATIONS.

The terrain is hilly/steep, with various "camps" scattered around within the overall area. So it would be possible IMO for him to be somewhere on base while UA, especially if he was assumed to have disappeared from Carlsbad. The question would be how he re-entered the base. Was his military ID found with his other belongings?
 
Lisbeth_S said:
Had this exact same thought.
One would think they have strict security in a military base.
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I’m not sure if it’s changed, but 20 years ago at Pendleton it wasn’t that strict. Civilians could enter the base as long as they were with someone in the service, and I don’t think I had to provide any info at the gate or anything (I could be wrong about that though).

I crashed in the barracks for a couple nights while my buddy was stationed there, no clue if that was “allowed” per se but either way it wasn’t a big deal.
 
dub said:
I’m not sure if it’s changed, but 20 years ago at Pendleton it wasn’t that strict. Civilians could enter the base as long as they were with someone in the service, and I don’t think I had to provide any info at the gate or anything (I could be wrong about that though).

I crashed in the barracks for a couple nights while my buddy was stationed there, no clue if that was “allowed” per se but either way it wasn’t a big deal.
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I live near a large Marine Base. Things have changed considerably since 9/11. We used to be able to take a shortcut through base to get to the other side of town by merely telling them at the gate that we were just passing through. Now, no one without military ID or accompanied by a service member may enter.
Even back then, if you stopped along the way for any reason, even out in the heavily forested areas, it would only be minutes before an mp would be up on you asking what you were doing.
The Marines do a lot of survival training and solo missions in the wooded and rugged areas on bases. I find it hard to believe that Camp Pendleton isn’t heavily monitored by surveillance video, trail cams, and ground sensors.
If BC, (or any other person for that matter), is slipping on or off base or hiding on the Pendleton property without being detected, they have a serious security problem there.
 
So glad that it appears that Bailey is okay physically. I just hope he finds help for whatever issues he's dealing with. He has to know that his parents are beside themselves looking for him. I don't get why he wouldn't at least contact them to let them know he's okay. Praying this all ends on a positive note!
 
Who is he hiding from?
Is this imaginary enemy?
Why is he still on the base premises if he is afraid of somebody?
Wouldn't it be reasonable just to leave and return home?

It doesn't look good MH wise IMO.
Not at all :(

JMO
 
SEP 6, 2024
Authorities say Marine no longer considered missing; family frustrated | The Coast News
Law enforcement and U.S. Marine Corps officials say they are scaling back their search for a Marine reported missing from Camp Pendleton last week, stating he is believed to be on the base and does not appear to be in danger.

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...The RAD Movement founder Sharie Finn clarified that he still has not been found.

“Was Bailey seen on base? Yes, he was seen on base on Aug. 31. Nobody has seen him since then,” Finn said in a video posted to The RAD Movement’s Facebook page on Sept. 4. “As of right now, there is no confirmation that Bailey is safe anywhere. And our biggest concern was that Bailey is safe from himself. We don’t know what he’s going through.”

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Cameron’s mother said he was unsure of what his life would look like post-service, and that he was humiliated at being assigned to cleaning duties once he indicated he wouldn’t be re-upping for another five years.

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OldCop said:
I live near a large Marine Base. Things have changed considerably since 9/11. We used to be able to take a shortcut through base to get to the other side of town by merely telling them at the gate that we were just passing through. Now, no one without military ID or accompanied by a service member may enter.
Even back then, if you stopped along the way for any reason, even out in the heavily forested areas, it would only be minutes before an mp would be up on you asking what you were doing.
The Marines do a lot of survival training and solo missions in the wooded and rugged areas on bases. I find it hard to believe that Camp Pendleton isn’t heavily monitored by surveillance video, trail cams, and ground sensors.
If BC, (or any other person for that matter), is slipping on or off base or hiding on the Pendleton property without being detected, they have a serious security problem there.
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Absolutely. Getting on and off base through the gate is one thing, but being able to remain on base undetected is a way different thing and a big problem.

Yours is great perspective for this case because it highlights how strange is is that both a.) they are unable to find him and b.) they don’t seem that worried about it.

Like, even if for whatever reason they aren’t that worried about Bailey’s safety, you’d think they would be concerned about anyone, whether military or civilian, roaming around the base in the midst of a likely mental health crisis.

I have no idea what to make of that.
 
Based on a few earlier posts in this thread I’m starting to wonder if a mental health issue was noticed as emerging a little while ago, and he didn’t actually want to leave the marines but was compelled to discharge as a result.

I haven’t read all the linked articles, but I haven’t seen a reason why he wasn’t re-upping, and I feel like if he had second thoughts under normal circumstances he could just change his mind or re-enlist once he was discharged. So it makes me wonder if there was a reason that wasn’t an option.
 
PommyMommy said:
Law enforcement and U.S. Marine Corps officials say they are scaling back their search for a Marine reported missing from Camp Pendleton last week, stating he is believed to be on the base and does not appear to be in danger.
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BBM

"he is believed to be on base" - is he on base or not? How do they not know for sure? are they just happy to presume he is hiding somewhere and not worried about the fact that a marine in a potential acute MH crisis is roaming around a military base undetected? It sounds crazy to me.

"he does not appear to be in danger" - again, is he safe or not?

I'm hoping that the family is given more clear info than what is reported and they are being vague on purpose with the public to protect Bailey.
 
Lisbeth_S said:
BBM

"he is believed to be on base" - is he on base or not? How do they not know for sure? are they just happy to presume he is hiding somewhere and not worried about the fact that a marine in a potential acute MH crisis is roaming around a military base undetected? It sounds crazy to me.

"he does not appear to be in danger" - again, is he safe or not?

I'm hoping that the family is given more clear info than what is reported and they are being vague on purpose with the public to protect Bailey.
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I have the same questions. :(
 
Incredholt said:
Camp Pendleton Marine Lance Corporal Bailey Cameron, who went missing in late August and then was no longer considered missing after recent activities connected to him of being on the base, is in “a desertion status,” military officials said.

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So sad. :(

The article defines what this means:

Desertion status occurs when a Marine reaches their end of service date, which was Monday for Cameron, while in an “unauthorized absence status,” the military base said.
 
I have a feeling that rather than caring for the person behind the "Marine" status, the military just cares about whether you are performing your duties or not.
Now that the police have closed his case and the military treats him as a deserter, who's going to look for him and ensure he is ok?

I feel for the family :(
 
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