Bankrupt Casey Anthony interviewed by KPHO CBS in Phoenix #2

[logicalgirl]

Seems to me that those people who have a favorable/helpful attitude towards FCA, know full well that she lived in Ocean Woods, and know full well that is her Chev HHR in the driveway .... but they are "baiting" folks who are posting info, to see just exactly how MUCH concrete information they have, so FCA can be warned that the bankruptcy trustee has EVIDENCE of her hidden money and assets. Reason for provoking comments posted here, in my opinion.

Interesting comment! I haven't seen a pro-FCA poster since just after the verdict when they arrived in droves. Instead of innuendos could you point out these posters?

Then again, there are posters like me who like to see any kind of evidence at all for example that her parents moved her to Tampa in a U-haul. To me it's really puzzling that someone could take the time to announce this "event" and were close enough to see that it was in fact FCA and George and Cindy, but weren't able to take even one photograph to substantiate their story. We live in age of instant access to tweets with photos, instagrams, phones with camera so why no picture? And why no picture of FCA in Ocean Woods? If someone is interested enough to post emphatically that's where she is - that means they've seen her. So?

Are you sure it isn't the other way around? That someone in her camp is starting these rumours just to get a reaction from folks like us? A rumour without backup is just gossip. IMO:moo:

 

[coco puff]

Seems to me that those people who have a favorable/helpful attitude towards FCA, know full well that she lived in Ocean Woods, and know full well that is her Chev HHR in the driveway .... but they are "baiting" folks who are posting info, to see just exactly how MUCH concrete information they have, so FCA can be warned that the bankruptcy trustee has EVIDENCE of her hidden money and assets. Reason for provoking comments posted here, in my opinion.

BBM It still completely astounds me that with all of the worth-while causes out there, how could anyone waste one minute supporting, defending, or protecting a murder suspect that HAS BEEN FOUND NOT GUILY. Hidden agendas aside, there is no explanation for that behavior.

 

[Tulessa]

Seems to me that those people who have a favorable/helpful attitude towards FCA, know full well that she lived in Ocean Woods, and know full well that is her Chev HHR in the driveway .... but they are "baiting" folks who are posting info, to see just exactly how MUCH concrete information they have, so FCA can be warned that the bankruptcy trustee has EVIDENCE of her hidden money and assets. Reason for provoking comments posted here, in my opinion.

Thank you! :seeya:

 

[Tulessa]

Interesting comment! I haven't seen a pro-FCA poster since just after the verdict when they arrived in droves. Instead of innuendos could you point out these posters?

Then again, there are posters like me who like to see any kind of evidence at all for example that her parents moved her to Tampa in a U-haul. To me it's really puzzling that someone could take the time to announce this "event" and were close enough to see that it was in fact FCA and George and Cindy, but weren't able to take even one photograph to substantiate their story. We live in age of instant access to tweets with photos, instagrams, phones with camera so why no picture? And why no picture of FCA in Ocean Woods? If someone is interested enough to post emphatically that's where she is - that means they've seen her. So?

Are you sure it isn't the other way around? That someone in her camp is starting these rumours just to get a reaction from folks like us? A rumour without backup is just gossip. IMO:moo:

LG, Open your eyes! :floorlaugh:

 

[rossva]

BBM I'd be more than happy to post pictures of the Ocean Woods maroon Chevy HHR, it's license plate, it's drivers/owners, it's parking place, and the unit that it belongs to, but I know for a fact IT IS NOT Casey Anthony's (or anyone related to her in any way, shape, manner or form) therefore I would be responsible for completely innocent's being sleuthed. The items you state as fact (the BBM part) are not facts.

Seems to me that those people who have a favorable/helpful attitude towards FCA, know full well that she lived in Ocean Woods, and know full well that is her Chev HHR in the driveway .... but they are "baiting" folks who are posting info, to see just exactly how MUCH concrete information they have, so FCA can be warned that the bankruptcy trustee has EVIDENCE of her hidden money and assets. Reason for provoking comments posted here, in my opinion.

 

[Tulessa]

BBM I'd be more than happy to post it's license plate, it's drivers/owners, it's parking place, and the unit that it belongs to, but I know for a fact IT IS NOT Casey Anthony's (or anyone related to her in any way, shape, manner or form) therefore I would be responsible for completely innocent's being sleuthed. The items you state as fact (the BBM part) are not facts.

BBM
That's against the TOS. I wouldn't go there.......

 

[rossva]

I think that was the entire point of why I wouldn't post them. Guess you stopped reading after the part you bolded.

BBM
That's against the TOS. I wouldn't go there.......

 

[logicalgirl]

LG, Open your eyes! :floorlaugh:

I love ya darlin but with respect I think you are mistaken.

I read every post - and I do mean every one of them - and what I see is one or two people who like to see information truly sleuthed and backed up with source facts - ie pictures or something other than innuendo.

If people have actual information why not share it online instead of "somebody told me - I saw it somewhere" - my kind of brain just spits that stuff out as "does not compute".... It's not easy going through life as a "web blanket party pooper" y'know! :floorlaugh:

 

[logicalgirl]

BBM
That's against the TOS. I wouldn't go there.......

Agree - our Beachie was just in here yesterday spanking us for the same thing.... :waitasec:

 

[RR0004]

I still find it very ironic, [ I mean iornic] this whole fee thing with Baez. Here this shady lawyer pulls of a MIRACLE. He gets his obviously guilty client off from a slam dunk Murder One case, and she walks away with an acquittal. What does she do to reward the attorney for all of his hard work and success? She takes him to Bankruptcy court to try and get out of paying him his fee. LOL Awww, that is the Casey we all know. The lying, thieving ingrate, has not changed a bit. Mommy and daddy are still trying to clean up after her. :giggle:

The thing is...the State owed Baez his fee the minute he had her declared indigent. Baez also got paid from the sale of the pics...or so he attested to in Court, IIRC. So where does the $400,000 (did I get the # right? lol) she claims she owes him come from?

http://www.wftv.com/news/news/judge-grants-casey-anthonys-indigent-status/nFCnF/

 

[ZsaZsa]

The thing is...the State owed Baez his fee the minute he had her declared indigent. Baez also got paid from the sale of the pics...or so he attested to in Court, IIRC. So where does the $400,000 (did I get the # right? lol) she claims she owes him come from?

http://www.wftv.com/news/news/judge-grants-casey-anthonys-indigent-status/nFCnF/

I asked a question about his fee and her indigency a while back. AZLawyer
reminded me that the State did not pay Baez anything- he and FCA had a private agreement as to his fees. He got her $200K for the photos - at that time he said he had taken $89K as salary IIRC and did not publicly account for the rest of that money..

 

[dizzychick]

Interesting comment! I haven't seen a pro-FCA poster since just after the verdict when they arrived in droves. Instead of innuendos could you point out these posters?

Then again, there are posters like me who like to see any kind of evidence at all for example that her parents moved her to Tampa in a U-haul. To me it's really puzzling that someone could take the time to announce this "event" and were close enough to see that it was in fact FCA and George and Cindy, but weren't able to take even one photograph to substantiate their story. We live in age of instant access to tweets with photos, instagrams, phones with camera so why no picture? And why no picture of FCA in Ocean Woods? If someone is interested enough to post emphatically that's where she is - that means they've seen her. So?

Are you sure it isn't the other way around? That someone in her camp is starting these rumours just to get a reaction from folks like us? A rumour without backup is just gossip. IMO:moo:

Gee I thought she was on easy street with her new beau who is so very rich and so in love with her that she is preggers with his child? LOL O well reality sux dosent it Casey? LOL

 

[logicalgirl]

Gee I thought she was on easy street with her new beau who is so very rich and so in love with her that she is preggers with his child? LOL O well reality sux dosent it Casey? LOL

.................. :silly: ............Thanks dizzychick!! :floorlaugh: :floorlaugh:

 

[ThinkTank]

Thank you! :seeya:

THANK YOU for all you do Tulessa!
We will just continue to gather information and give it to the bankruptcy trustee!
I'm very sure the attorneys appreciate all the info that you and others are able to gather.

 

[ThinkTank]

This is what the bankruptcy judge told Zenaida and Kronk that they had one week, from the HEARING on May 30th, to file case law on their Motion for Relief from Stay.

Here are the documents on google docs:

06/06/2013
Memorandum Of Law in Support of Relief from the Automatic Stay Pursuant to 11 U.S.C. §§ 362(a) and 1334(c)
Filed by R Scott Shuker on behalf of Creditor Zenaida Gonzalez
(Entered: 06/06/2013)

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7DjeAMt_BpId2tST202VEpmeGc/edit?pli=1
ZENAIDA GONZALEZ'S MEMORANDUM OF LAW IN SUPPORT OF RELIEF FROM THE AUTOMATIC STAY PURSUANT TO 11 U.S.C. 362(a) AND 1334(c)

Summary of filing:

Zenaida filed Sept 24, 2008 [4 years ago] Complaint for Defamation - Case # 48-2008-CA-24573-0, in State Court - Orange County

April 12, 2012 - State Court Order for Partial Summary Judgment - one of Casey Anthony's alleged defamatory statements against Zenaida must be submitted to a jury for determination since it is open to two separate interpretations.

January 2013 - State Court set Defamation claim for trial - then continued/postponed the trial until Casey Anthony's criminal Appeal was complete.

January 25, 2013 - shortly after Casey Anthony won part of her Appeal, she filed for Chapter 7 bankruptcy.

Casey Anthony listed in bankruptcy a "disputed claim" of Zenaida's defamation claim.Zenaida believes her civil suit is valid and enforceable and qualifies as an exception from discharge in bankruptcy, and will file further action after the civil case is liquidated.

April 19, 2013 - Zenaida filed Motion for Relief from Stay asking the Court to allow them to continue their civil case in State Court, and to allow more time to file more motions regarding discharge in bankruptcy after their civil case is finished.

May 30, 2013 - bankruptcy judge had a HEARING and took Zenaida's motions under advisement, and the judge requested additional supporting documents and authorities to be filed by June 6, 2013.

page 3 - "... [Casey Anthony] would not be required to travel out of the state [of Florida] to defend against the Defamation Claim, nor would [her] "fresh start" be in jeopardy since her attorneys are apparently working pro bono."

page 5 - "Moreover, as detailed in the MFRS, the Debtor will not be prejudiced proceeding in State Court. The Debtor apparently has a team of attorneys working pro bono, so the cost of continuing to defend the Defamation Claim should not be an issue. Litigating in Federal Court will likely increase costs and attorney's fees."

page 10 - "...As detailed in the Dill Affidavit, all of the witnesses who are expected to testify for trial reside in or near Orange County, Florida, which include both law enforcement and lay witnesses. There are no trial witnesses residing in the Tampa, Florida, or surrounding area. Therefore this factor weighs in favor of abstention."[NOTE: I believe this is the reason Casey Anthony moved to Tampa a few weeks ago - to hopefully gain an advantage in her request to have the civil suits tried in federal court in Tampa]

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Motion of Zenaida Gonzalez for Relief from Stay
Filed by R Scott Shuker on behalf of Creditor Zenaida Gonzalez
(Entered: 04/19/2013)

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7DjeAMt_BpIcHQ1U0dPeFBHR1U/edit?pli=1

 

[skbsoccermom]

I love ya darlin but with respect I think you are mistaken.

I read every post - and I do mean every one of them - and what I see is one or two people who like to see information truly sleuthed and backed up with source facts - ie pictures or something other than innuendo.

If people have actual information why not share it online instead of "somebody told me - I saw it somewhere" - my kind of brain just spits that stuff out as "does not compute".... It's not easy going through life as a "web blanket party pooper" y'know! :floorlaugh:

Just like when somebody says "I know for a FACT that maroon car is not hers or anyone related to her", we should all take that with a grain of salt too.

Obviously there is motive for her to hide her assets and for her and everyone around her to deny, deny, deny.

 

[skbsoccermom]

This is what the bankruptcy judge told Zenaida and Kronk that they had one week, from the HEARING on May 30th, to file case law on their Motion for Relief from Stay.

Here are the documents on google docs:

06/06/2013
Memorandum Of Law in Support of Relief from the Automatic Stay Pursuant to 11 U.S.C. §§ 362(a) and 1334(c)
Filed by R Scott Shuker on behalf of Creditor Zenaida Gonzalez
(Entered: 06/06/2013)

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7DjeAMt_BpId2tST202VEpmeGc/edit?pli=1
ZENAIDA GONZALEZ'S MEMORANDUM OF LAW IN SUPPORT OF RELIEF FROM THE AUTOMATIC STAY PURSUANT TO 11 U.S.C. 362(a) AND 1334(c)

Summary of filing:

Zenaida filed Sept 24, 2008 [4 years ago] Complaint for Defamation - Case # 48-2008-CA-24573-0, in State Court - Orange County

April 12, 2012 - State Court Order for Partial Summary Judgment - one of Casey Anthony's alleged defamatory statements against Zenaida must be submitted to a jury for determination since it is open to two separate interpretations.

January 2013 - State Court set Defamation claim for trial - then continued/postponed the trial until Casey Anthony's criminal Appeal was complete.

January 25, 2013 - shortly after Casey Anthony won part of her Appeal, she filed for Chapter 7 bankruptcy.

Casey Anthony listed in bankruptcy a "disputed claim" of Zenaida's defamation claim.Zenaida believes her civil suit is valid and enforceable and qualifies as an exception from discharge in bankruptcy, and will file further action after the civil case is liquidated.

April 19, 2013 - Zenaida filed Motion for Relief from Stay asking the Court to allow them to continue their civil case in State Court, and to allow more time to file more motions regarding discharge in bankruptcy after their civil case is finished.

May 30, 2013 - bankruptcy judge had a HEARING and took Zenaida's motions under advisement, and the judge requested additional supporting documents and authorities to be filed by June 6, 2013.

page 3 - "... [Casey Anthony] would not be required to travel out of the state [of Florida] to defend against the Defamation Claim, nor would [her] "fresh start" be in jeopardy since her attorneys are apparently working pro bono."

page 5 - "Moreover, as detailed in the MFRS, the Debtor will not be prejudiced proceeding in State Court. The Debtor apparently has a team of attorneys working pro bono, so the cost of continuing to defend the Defamation Claim should not be an issue. Litigating in Federal Court will likely increase costs and attorney's fees."

page 10 - "...As detailed in the Dill Affidavit, all of the witnesses who are expected to testify for trial reside in or near Orange County, Florida, which include both law enforcement and lay witnesses. There are no trial witnesses residing in the Tampa, Florida, or surrounding area. Therefore this factor weighs in favor of abstention."[NOTE: I believe this is the reason Casey Anthony moved to Tampa a few weeks ago - to hopefully gain an advantage in her request to have the civil suits tried in federal court in Tampa]

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Motion of Zenaida Gonzalez for Relief from Stay
Filed by R Scott Shuker on behalf of Creditor Zenaida Gonzalez
(Entered: 04/19/2013)

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7DjeAMt_BpIcHQ1U0dPeFBHR1U/edit?pli=1

I love the mentioning (more than once) of the "team of pro-bono attorney's"! Serves them all right for CHOOSING to enable the felon. They can't jump on board by choice, then complain that they are "taxed", and further complain that members of their team have had to leave. Cry me a river. Maybe they should stop treating her like she is something special. How does everyone else do it who files for bankruptcy? I'm sure the average Joe Schmoe next door who has worked all his life and fallen on hard times doesn't have a "team of pro-bono attorney's" when filing for bankruptcy.

 

[coco puff]

I love ya darlin but with respect I think you are mistaken.

I read every post - and I do mean every one of them - and what I see is one or two people who like to see information truly sleuthed and backed up with source facts - ie pictures or something other than innuendo.

If people have actual information why not share it online instead of "somebody told me - I saw it somewhere" - my kind of brain just spits that stuff out as "does not compute".... It's not easy going through life as a "web blanket party pooper" y'know! :floorlaugh:

LG.... every single post from the FCA camp has been conjecture, speculation and inference. The convicted felon has never ever ever stated what happend, when it happend, or how the "accident" happend. i'm sorry hiding behind your lawyers for 3 years SCREAMS guilt...... so every post that defends her by putting words in her mouth, just pisses me off.

 

[RR0004]

I asked a question about his fee and her indigency a while back. AZLawyer
reminded me that the State did not pay Baez anything- he and FCA had a private agreement as to his fees. He got her $200K for the photos - at that time he said he had taken $89K as salary IIRC and did not publicly account for the rest of that money..

Wasn't it Baez who made a comment about how little he was getting paid (like $3.00 an hour)? So he never submitted anything for payment...is that what we were led to believe?

 

[logicalgirl]

LG.... every single post from the FCA camp has been conjecture, speculation and inference. The convicted felon has never ever ever stated what happend, when it happend, or how the "accident" happend. i'm sorry hiding behind your lawyers for 3 years SCREAMS guilt...... so every post that defends her by putting words in her mouth, just pisses me off.

I hear you coco puff and agree with you - but here's my problem. I have difficulty with innuendos that suggest that I or someone else is supporting FCA because I see absolute statements for example that she is living in Ocean Woods, or that CA and GA rented a u-haul and moved her to Tampa without one shred of evidence to support it.

Saying it's all BS without something to substantiate it doesn't make me or anyone an FCA supporter or even close to it. Maybe it's because I'm not part of the "in" crowd so I don't get this "evidence" shared with me - who knows?

Remember back when she first got out of jail - and "we tracked" her on a private jet to California to a swank home with a big pool - had pics, but no FCA, had the address blah blah - when in fact it was Baez who was switching cars and driving her out of town? Same thing there - all rumours, no actual pics that place her there - and weren't we surprised to find her living in some tacky church addition in the middle of a church/school compound.

I'll be the first to line up and pull the plug on her given half the chance and I don't really care where she lives as long as she "gets hers". But when she does "get it" I want to know it actually happened in this dimension - give me facts, pictures, dates etc so I can actually celebrate.

In the meantime, I don't think it is at all polite to suggest that because the few who do not swim the same way as the masses that it suggests blanket FCA support.