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that hit the news Aug 3-4, 2011 (wed-thurs) and all the articles say the photos/video are from "this past weekend", which was the last weekend in July

Are you saying you don't think the 45K was for those "catches" that were sold all over the place? I can't actually tell what you mean...

I'd actually guess Baez got more than that - but I also think he can enter the sale of them into any month he wants to.
 
For JB to have actually submitted a claim (just under the wire by the way) in that amount, he must have gone through two or three ethic attorneys to make sure he would be okay to do so.
I would like to see the trustee demand to see the original retainer signed by FCA before accepting JB's claim. I wonder what other information the trustee was requesting.
 
Hope the felon is enjoying her Teflon life. Teflon wears off after awhile, and then things begin to stick. I can definitely see theft and fraud charges in her future, when the money train runs out and people get sick of supporting her useless, lying butt.

Enjoy your temporary "bella vita," felon. Hear that "chugga chugga chugga" sound? The karma train. Headed your way. Toot toot!
 
Hope the felon is enjoying her Teflon life. Teflon wears off after awhile, and then things begin to stick. I can definitely see theft and fraud charges in her future, when the money train runs out and people get sick of supporting her useless, lying butt.

Enjoy your temporary "bella vita," felon. Hear that "chugga chugga chugga" sound? The karma train. Headed your way. Toot toot!

I agree with your assessment. She has not done anything productive since her aquittal, or before for that matter, to make her life better. She will have to revert to what she does best and that was what she was doing before she was charged with Caylee's death.

JMO
 
that hit the news Aug 3-4, 2011 (wed-thurs) and all the articles say the photos/video are from "this past weekend", which was the last weekend in July

Are you saying you don't think the 45K was for those "catches" that were sold all over the place? I can't actually tell what you mean...

I'd actually guess Baez got more than that - but I also think he can enter the sale of them into any month he wants to.

Hmmmmm
Pics taken end of July, 2011

Pics hits the media August 3-4, 2011

She says in the BK hearing that on September 9, 2011 she relinquished RIGHTS to photos she had posed for to Baez and that he sold them and she did not know how much money he got for them....


If she relinquished rights to photos on September 9 then WHO sold the Ohio pics back in August?
 
Hmmmmm
Pics taken end of July, 2011

Pics hits the media August 3-4, 2011

She says in the BK hearing that on September 9, 2011 she relinquished RIGHTS to photos she had posed for to Baez and that he sold them and she did not know how much money he got for them....


If she relinquished rights to photos on September 9 then WHO sold the Ohio pics back in August?

Well Baez already had an agreement in place from the ABC photo sale that he could act as her agent for the sale of such things.

I'm only suggesting that is the dates he "paid" her and had her relinquish her rights before he handed over her cheque, so that if he was able to make any other sales - she wouldn't get a piece of it.

Wasn't this during a period after the trial when he was in deep financial trouble with the second round of foreclosures on his properties.

I guess what I was saying was - I don't believe we can go by the dates that either of them has supplied for the real financial picture of when events actually occurred.

We are after all talking about FCA and Baez...
 
I agree with your assessment. She has not done anything productive since her aquittal, or before for that matter, to make her life better. She will have to revert to what she does best and that was what she was doing before she was charged with Caylee's death.

JMO

She is going to have to come up with another story regarding publicity and death threats however because it was extremely difficult to find any press at all about her BK proceedings.

The public in general is fickle with a short attention span when it comes to high profile crimes. First it was Jodi Arias and now it is George Zimmerman. Who cares about Casey Anthony?

Well we do, but we are after all a relatively small group when when compared to country and world numbers.
 
She is going to have to come up with another story regarding publicity and death threats however because it was extremely difficult to find any press at all about her BK proceedings.

The public in general is fickle with a short attention span when it comes to high profile crimes. First it was Jodi Arias and now it is George Zimmerman. Who cares about Casey Anthony?

Well we do, but we are after all a relatively small group when when compared to country and world numbers.

BBM

And I'll bet that just rots her hiney! I don't believe it when her attorneys say she just wants to be left alone. She was the star attraction of the biggest "reality show" of 2011, and it was obvious she reveled in the attention. I do believe she thought "fame and fortune" (TV interviews! Books! Maybe her own show on VH1!) were going to be the outcome of her acquittal, but now her life is the same old/same old of freeloading and the occasional court appearance. The paparazzi show up for a day, get their pictures, and take off looking for more interesting subject matter.

I still can't believe anyone would want to publish her "story." Plenty of fiction on the shelves already.

Yes, missy, you are old news.
 
Well Baez already had an agreement in place from the ABC photo sale that he could act as her agent for the sale of such things.

I'm only suggesting that is the dates he "paid" her and had her relinquish her rights before he handed over her cheque, so that if he was able to make any other sales - she wouldn't get a piece of it.

Wasn't this during a period after the trial when he was in deep financial trouble with the second round of foreclosures on his properties.

I guess what I was saying was - I don't believe we can go by the dates that either of them has supplied for the real financial picture of when events actually occurred.

We are after all talking about FCA and Baez...

PS - I don't believe with the ABC photos that she actually relinquished her rights - just agreed to the sale and Baez as her agent. So this would have been a new agreement.

I don't believe for a second Baez felt he had to have an agreement in place when he sold the pictures - but needed a cover for him keeping the bigger share of the profits.
 
Are you saying you don't think the 45K was for those "catches" that were sold all over the place? I can't actually tell what you mean...

I'd actually guess Baez got more than that - but I also think he can enter the sale of them into any month he wants to.
:waitasec:

I was answering this part of your post: "What was the date of those phony videos of her strolling and shopping (Old Navy) that he sold of her after her prison release?"

I couldn't remember so I googled it and found the dates that it hit the news, and the articles referring to the sighting "last weekend." who paid/received how much, and when, and how it was divided, and when she actually was on the stroll: I have no clue

ETA: at the bk hearing she said JB had given her $3400 toward her living expenses. on the last page of the first bk thread I posted/wondered if that was 34% of $10,000 paid for the photos/video. which is one percentage point more than a 1/3 - 2/3 split of 10K. (a guess on my part)
 
:waitasec:

I was answering this part of your post: "What was the date of those phony videos of her strolling and shopping (Old Navy) that he sold of her after her prison release?"

I couldn't remember so I googled it and found the dates that it hit the news, and the articles referring to the sighting "last weekend." who paid/received how much, and when, and how it was divided, and when she actually was on the stroll: I have no clue

ETA: at the bk hearing she said JB had given her $3400 toward her living expenses. on the last page of the first bk thread I posted/wondered if that was 34% of $10,000 paid for the photos/video. which is one percentage point more than a 1/3 - 2/3 split of 10K. (a guess on my part)

Thanks Gramcracker - I thought that's what you were saying but wasn't sure - and as you can see there's been a fair amount of discussion since then.

The other thought I had and I have no idea how likely this is - but would Baez have been submitting pictures for his book this early? I have no idea if he actually used any since I've never had the stomach to read more than the first page or to and some excerpts our die-hards have posted on the site for us.Since he was expecting to be a star and reap huge rewards there would be no way he would want to share that with her.

PS - maybe your percentage figure for the split is showing Baez as more generous that he really is? I doubt the 2/3-1/3 split for her share was that high.....
 
Originally Posted by conLima
Not sure where to post this question but it has relevance here, I believe. Was there ever a final statement of trial expenses provided by the JAC? What was the total amount billed to the JAC from d team?

Thanks to everyone here for the continued updates.


I have not found a good link to the actual Spreadsheet from the JAC....


Invoice for the Defense for Work Performed - Page 9 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

03-31-2011, 03:27 PM
cherishtoo

Document: Casey's Defense Has Billed Fla. For Over $100K

http://www.wftv.com/news/27375430/detail.html

The defense has billed the state almost $10,000 for transcripts of its depositions of prosecution witnesses, but the state is refusing to pay almost half of that.


Spreadsheet of Expenditures

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/27375071/detail.html

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

UPDATE to this post.
Attached spreadsheet of Expenditures for Casey Anthony Case, by the JAC, as of June 27, 2013.


https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7DjeAMt_BpIdmFuVlkxZ2JaU00/edit?usp=sharing
 
So I have been wandering around trying to figure out how Baez thinks he is going to get away with declaring over 300K regarding his fees to FCA.

He must understand that if she has money, no one has found it yet - so that probably means he's looking for a loss to file on his tax returns.

My question - has he found some kind of loophole with her indigent declaration that means he will not receive any funds during the trial from the JAC?

And that doesn't mean he continue to mount a bill to her personally???

Thoughts?
 
So I have been wandering around trying to figure out how Baez thinks he is going to get away with declaring over 300K regarding his fees to FCA.

He must understand that if she has money, no one has found it yet - so that probably means he's looking for a loss to file on his tax returns.

My question - has he found some kind of loophole with her indigent declaration that means he will not receive any funds during the trial from the JAC?

And that doesn't mean he continue to mount a bill to her personally???

Thoughts?

I have no idea. I thought that when she was declared indigent, that meant she could not and would not have to pay for counsel. Guess I don't understand what being declared indigent gets one. Still don't know what happened to the money she got for the pictures from ABC. I also don't know why JB's answer to the court about CA's fees has to be a secret.

JMO
 
Baez/Casey Anthony received a total of $275,000

- ABC paid $ 200,000 for photos.
- a private donor paid $ 5,000.
- Atty Todd Macaluso donated $ 70,000.

Baez was paid $ 89,454.83 out of the $ 275,000 before she was declared Indigent For Costs
The rest was used for other defense expenses such as travel, equipment, investigation and for a media consultant.


http://articles.orlandosentinel.com...os-baez-george-and-cindy-anthony-defense-team

Casey Anthony trial questions? We have answers
THE STATE VS. CASEY ANTHONY

June 11, 2011
By Amy Pavuk, Anthony Colarossi and Bianca Prieto, Sentinel Staff Writers

excerpt:
Q. Who is paying for Casey Anthony's defense?

A. Anthony received $200,000 from ABC News for her family videos and photos, $5,000 from a private donor and $70,000 from a California attorney once part of the defense team.
Baez said Anthony paid him nearly $90,000 with that money. The rest was used for other defense expenses such as travel, equipment, investigation and for a media consultant.

In March 2010, Anthony said she was broke and requested that a judge declare her indigent so the state could pick up the rest of her defense tab.
Circuit Judge Stan Strickland, the initial judge assigned to the case, found Anthony indigent and ruled taxpayers must pay Anthony's defense costs except for lawyer fees.
Some attorneys who have been involved in the case have said they were working for free.

As of the start of last week, the defense team had billed the state Justice Administrative Commission a total $127,280.74 for expenses. Of that total, $79,685.68 has been paid, $35,337.80 remains unpaid and $12,257.26 will not be paid. Costs associated with investigative work and mitigation represent the highest total defense billings and payments by the JAC.
 
http://www.christianpost.com/news/how-much-will-casey-anthony-cost-taxpayers-51991/

How Much Will Casey Anthony Trial Cost Fla. Taxpayers?
Death penalty cases rack up millions
By R. Leigh Coleman , Christian Post Reporter
July 7, 2011|9:53 pm

excerpts:

Many death penalty lawyers know how fast the money goes, and what it means to have a young, single woman with no visible source of income as the client so they cover themselves by declaring them indigent so the state will bear the costs, legal analysts said.


Prosecution costs:
$42,200.16 The prosecution would not itemize the expenses because it would reveal work product. This total does not include salaries of the prosecutors working on the Casey Anthony case. Two of those salaries exceed $100,000 per year.

Before being declared indigent, Anthony's private sources totaled:
$275,000, including $200,000 paid by ABC News
Of that, $121,954.83 went to attorneys and a media consultant.
 
I have no idea. I thought that when she was declared indigent, that meant she could not and would not have to pay for counsel. Guess I don't understand what being declared indigent gets one. Still don't know what happened to the money she got for the pictures from ABC. I also don't know why JB's answer to the court about CA's fees has to be a secret.

JMO

Yes, I thought so too - about being indigent - but something else IS going on and I'm just trying to figure out what loophole we may have missed - because there he is declaring this big bill to a federal court - and I don't believe that is something he would do unless he was quite sure of himself...

Re the way the 200+K was cut up - don't think it was a secret as such - just private funds paying private lawyer bills and if Baez was able to justify such expenditures to Judge Strickland - then I don't think Baez was in a legal position to make those figures public.

Not that I'm agreeing with any of the above - but just trying to be objective about it and suggest some possible answers. It makes no sense to me for us to insist on our positions if we can clearly see something else is about to happen.

Course maybe we could get lucky and he'll get a smack down - but that's just in my active fantasy life I suspect..
 
Her indigency application asks for the costs associated with her case to be covered by the JAC. Her agreement with Baez shows she already paid him all she expected to pay with no expectation of any future payments. I guess the Bankrutpcy hearings will provide an explanation of how he now claims more is due....


http://media.trb.com/media/acrobat/2010-07/55220170.pdf
 
Her indigency application asks for the costs associated with her case to be covered by the JAC. Her agreement with Baez shows she already paid him all she expected to pay with no expectation of any future payments. I guess the Bankrutpcy hearings will provide an explanation of how he now claims more is due....


http://media.trb.com/media/acrobat/2010-07/55220170.pdf

After reading your link, it sounds like it costs a lot more to present a death penalty case (makes sense). I know it took a lot more time to seat a jury because of it being a death penalty case. I wonder if in hindsight, Mr. Lawson wishes he had not made it a DP case.

JMO
 
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7DjeAMt_BpILV85dEgzdnAtMkk/edit?pli=1
page 6
INDIGENT APPLICATION
March 2, 2010


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INDIGENT APPLICATION
July 17, 2008


https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7DjeAMt_BpIVGFKSVNuLVhxQUE/edit?pli=1

---------------------------------

Attorneys
Mason - pro bono
Andrea Lyon - pro bono - paid for costs only
Linda Kinney-Baden - pro bono
Baez - attorney fees paid by Casey Anthony
Only Baez and Lyon paid by Casey Anthony


privately retained and lead counsel, expenses are considered overhead - not ask tax payers to pick up that cost- not paid by JAC

travel costs for pro bono attorney only paid by JAC when SOLE atty on case

Anthony signed affidavits March 8, 2010 indicating Attorney Fees
Baez $ 89,454.83 - attorney fees - no other compensation in future by anyone
Lyon $ 22,500 - used for costs of transcripts, travel, and investigation - no atty fees

TOTAL Attorney Fees paid by Casey Anthony $ 111,954.83

When Casey Anthony filled out her affidavit, she said the fees paid or to be paid to the attorneys were or are being paid by herself.


$ 275,000 brought in for Anthony defense
Paid Baez and Lyon $ 111,954.83 = $ 163,045.17 left over
$ 163,045.17 - Baez says paid for investigators, some experts, travel and other things


1) ABC paid $200,000 for media pictures directly to Casey Anthony - in 2008
3) Macaluso donated $70,000 cash to her personally - about May 2009
4) An unnamed donor gave her $5,000
TOTAL $275,000.00 brought in for Anthony defense before March 8, 2010


Out of $ 275,000 - Expenses paid:
Baez - $ 89,454.83 - represent her on criminal case
Hours expended - 2,500 range in 1 1/2 year

Andrea Lyon - $ 22,500 [end of May 2009 she joined defense] Hours - 1,000 or more

Marti McKenzie - $ 10,000 [media consultant]

Other expenses paid - travel, equipment, investigation


On the June 24, 2013 Bankruptcy Claim - Baez says:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7DjeAMt_BpIQUExQjlnbWh6eTA/edit?pli=1

- $ 10,113.39 paid 9/23/2011 (Post-trial) payment by third party of $ 45,500.00

Out of $ 45,500.00 - he paid:
- $ 13,650.00 - taxes
- $ 10,000.00 - P.I. Pat McKenna
- $ 6,736.61 - P.I. Jeremiah Lyons [he was paid by JAC]
- $ 5,000.00 - misc expenses - computer, personal items, etc

Baez says payments made, which he deducts from his alleged $ 500,000.00 RETAINER AMOUNT:
2008 - $ 20,000.00 total - from who?
2009 - $ 60,000.00 total - from who?
2010 - $ 700.42 - from who?
2011 - $ 3,000 - from who?


Richard Hornsby:
"Here we have a women who has been incarcerated for over a year, who was unemployed before hand, who has no family that has paid any of her legal bills, who has been convicted of fraud, who is represented by an attorney with a history of financial troubles, trying to "claim" that she (Casey Anthony) is the source of her defense funding."

"Not only is this a lie, it is intellectually dishonest.
The statute requires full disclosure of all fees paid AND the source precisely in situations like this - so defendant's of actual means do not "game" the system."

“You have Casey Anthony, who is now a convicted fraud, who is claiming indigence and is claiming that she somehow had $111,000 while she’s been in jail,” Hornsby said."
 

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