Belize - Francesca Matus, 52, & Drew De Voursney, 36, murdered, Corozal, 25 Apr 2017

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https://www.breakingbelizenews.com/2017/05/12/murder-suspect-bail-handling-stolen-goods/
May 12 2017
Canadian national John Deshaies, who is a suspect is the murder of Canadian American couple, Francesca Matus and Drew Devoursney, is out on bail from charges of theft and handling stolen goods.
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http://www.ctv3belizenews.com/index...-murder-in-corozal&catid=39:social&Itemid=110
Whether Deshaies continues a person of interest in the murder case in Corozal remains unclear. It appears that authorities are awaiting the results of forensic analysis carried out by them and the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation officials who did their own investigation in Corozal.
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Coro Cops Says Neighbor Pointed To Matus/Deshaies Arguing
posted (May 11, 2017)
According to an article in the Toronto Sun, Francesca Matus's American neighbor Don Richardson, claims that he heard John Deshaies arguing loudly with Francesca Matus, on the day before she disappeared. Matus was Deshaies' landlord. Corozal police have confirmed that Richardson told them as much in a statement.
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http://www.7newsbelize.com/sstory.php?nid=40297
 
I have been following along with everyone on this thread and appreciate the thoughtful input and research of fellow WS members. The Belize police statements that have been made public as this case has progressed have become almost a joke. There doesn't appear to be any protocol about hold back evidence, or a designated police spokesperson handling reporter's questions. Reporters seem to get comments from any cop they approach.

The recent statement from "some" police officer who said the victims had been beaten, and another report, which could be an exaggeration of being beaten, to say that they were tortured, was suspect to me as soon as I read it. There is no report from the pathologist to back up these statements. I suspect that the blue/dark staining on the bodies from post-mortem hypostasis (pooling of blood after death) were interpreted by the medically inexperienced cops at the crime scene as horrific bruising which signified that the victims had been beaten before they were killed. JMO

I have little confidence in the Belize police, and I sincerely hope that an outside forensic pathologist had the chance to review (or examine the bodies) the autopsy report done in Belize which confirmed strangulation as the cause of death. Superficial findings can denote strangulation, but internal findings and other testing can rule it out, especially where a body is badly decomposed, as in this case. I am no expert on this subject, but I have concerns about the forensic expertise of the pathologist in Belize. It never made sense that they were both strangled, but I will accept this finding if it is backed up by another expert.
 
casesensitive said:
I have been following along with everyone on this thread and appreciate the thoughtful input and research of fellow WS members. The Belize police statements that have been made public as this case has progressed have become almost a joke. There doesn't appear to be any protocol about hold back evidence, or a designated police spokesperson handling reporter's questions. Reporters seem to get comments from any cop they approach.

The recent statement from "some" police officer who said the victims had been beaten, and another report, which could be an exaggeration of being beaten, to say that they were tortured, was suspect to me as soon as I read it. There is no report from the pathologist to back up these statements. I suspect that the blue/dark staining on the bodies from post-mortem hypostasis (pooling of blood after death) were interpreted by the medically inexperienced cops at the crime scene as horrific bruising which signified that the victims had been beaten before they were killed. JMO

I have little confidence in the Belize police, and I sincerely hope that an outside forensic pathologist had the chance to review (or examine the bodies) the autopsy report done in Belize which confirmed strangulation as the cause of death. Superficial findings can denote strangulation, but internal findings and other testing can rule it out, especially where a body is badly decomposed, as in this case. I am no expert on this subject, but I have concerns about the forensic expertise of the pathologist in Belize. It never made sense that they were both strangled, but I will accept this finding if it is backed up by another expert.
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I agree it makes no sense to strangle someone if you were planning to kill them. But so far, that's what we're being fed. This article also refers to an unnamed police source.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/03/americas/belize-couple-killed/

"The law enforcement source said there was duct tape found on the couple's wrists but they were not bound together. After five days in the elements, the bodies were badly decomposed. Autopsies showed they died of manual strangulation -- and had blunt force trauma and broken bones in their necks."



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casesensitive said:
I have been following along with everyone on this thread and appreciate the thoughtful input and research of fellow WS members. The Belize police statements that have been made public as this case has progressed have become almost a joke. There doesn't appear to be any protocol about hold back evidence, or a designated police spokesperson handling reporter's questions. Reporters seem to get comments from any cop they approach.

The recent statement from "some" police officer who said the victims had been beaten, and another report, which could be an exaggeration of being beaten, to say that they were tortured, was suspect to me as soon as I read it. There is no report from the pathologist to back up these statements. I suspect that the blue/dark staining on the bodies from post-mortem hypostasis (pooling of blood after death) were interpreted by the medically inexperienced cops at the crime scene as horrific bruising which signified that the victims had been beaten before they were killed. JMO

I have little confidence in the Belize police, and I sincerely hope that an outside forensic pathologist had the chance to review (or examine the bodies) the autopsy report done in Belize which confirmed strangulation as the cause of death. Superficial findings can denote strangulation, but internal findings and other testing can rule it out, especially where a body is badly decomposed, as in this case. I am no expert on this subject, but I have concerns about the forensic expertise of the pathologist in Belize. It never made sense that they were both strangled, but I will accept this finding if it is backed up by another expert.
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Good post.

TOD is a important to me as COD.

I realize the state of decomposition was such that it has been assumed they were dead for 5 days.

We should consider the possibility they were not.

The murder scene was not likely the recovery scene.

It's possible they were kept alive and not killed that night right away.

Why were their wrists duct taped, but they were not bound together?

Perhaps, as has been reported, only their right wrists WERE taped and that is because they were taped TO something to keep them from leaving? Might not have been the only restraint used.

WG
Kophy said:
I agree it makes no sense to strangle someone if you were planning to kill them. But so far, that's what we're being fed. This article also refers to an unnamed police source.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/03/americas/belize-couple-killed/

"The law enforcement source said there was duct tape found on the couple's wrists but they were not bound together. After five days in the elements, the bodies were badly decomposed. Autopsies showed they died of manual strangulation -- and had blunt force trauma and broken bones in their necks."



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Hazel said:
Do we know who posted bail and how much?
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Reported 20,000 (BZD). I would think he could have posted his own bail. He would have had to turn in his passport but many people get from Belize to North America without passports. I'm not suggesting he has any intention of doing so, but it's perfectly possible.
 
http://edition.channel5belize.com/archives/146156
May 12, 2017
DeShaies Offers Details of Relationship with Murder Victims
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According to DeShaies, he has been fully cooperative with agents from the Federal Bureau of Investigation who have been dispatched to Belize to probe into the murders. He says that he never really knew Drew Devoursney, aside from having seen the American national when visiting his girlfriend at her house on Serenity Sands Road in Consejo Village, Corozal.
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Isani Cayetano
“Can you speak to us about your knowledge of, or your familiarity or acquaintance with Mr. DeVoursney?”



John DeShaies, Charged for Theft

“I barely knew him. He was upstairs with her most of the time. I just met him. He is fairly new in her life, about maybe four or five months, something like that. But I met him in the palapa on occasions when I came in and I was obviously introduced to him. I did know him but I didn’t know him as a person. They were on different schedules. My girlfriend has a stand and she goes in the morning. I take her usually for six o’clock in the morning and Drew and Francesca were night people. They were out at night and they come home late, so our paths didn’t cross as much in the last few months as they used to.”
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John DeShaies

“I don’t need to have any counsel because I’ve never done anything. I’ve had full negotiations with the F.B.I. I’ve gone over everything and they’ve gotten all my information. They’ve taken my DNA, they’ve checked my vehicles and they checked my vehicles, they’ve checked the entire house. There’s no reason why I would need counsel.”
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