Belize - Francesca Matus, 52, & Drew De Voursney, 36, murdered, Corozal, 25 Apr 2017

[Hazel]

This is an old VIDEO that we haven't seen yet.

Shows different angles of the cane field where the bodies were found.

Broken lock of the car's door can be seen at the 1:25 mark.

[video=youtube;hY69azP64lM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY69azP64lM[/video]

 

[Hazel]

Color me confused but I recently read transcripts of an interview with him, posted here, where he bragged about how he doesn't need legal counsel becuz he's innocent and the FBI have inviestgaged him, have his DNA, check his vehicles, etc. Yet the article above indicates he has a "legal team" of 3 lawyers Perrara, Arthurs and Bradley. So which is it?

If I understand correctly, JD retained the 3 attorneys for the charges related to the casino:

Isani Cayetano
“Now you’ve secured legal counsel for this particular charge that you have been able to successfully meet bail. Have you retained legal services going forward with regards to the previous suspicion that you are involved in this double murder?”


John DeShaies
“I don’t need to have any counsel because I’ve never done anything. I’ve had full negotiations with the F.B.I. I’ve gone over everything and they’ve gotten all my information. They’ve taken my DNA, they’ve checked my vehicles and they checked my vehicles, they’ve checked the entire house. There’s no reason why I would need counsel.”
http://edition.channel5belize.com/archives/146156

 

[Kophy]

Edit - What Hazel said I think I owe her a beer.

 

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[andreww]

Broken lock of the car's door can be seen at the 1:25 mark.

[video=youtube;hY69azP64lM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY69azP64lM[/video]

Lets be clear her, that is a door handle, not a lock. You can pry at that handle all you want, but if the door is locked, you aren't getting in.

 

[Hazel]

Newscast regarding JD starts at the 5:50 mark
It looks like he's lost some weight while in custody JMO

Watch JD's latest interview (Friday 12th) from:
7:00 to 10:58

[video=youtube;kOxMw5On7fo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOxMw5On7fo[/video]

 

[Satchie]

Could be. But then I wonder why he would have two vehicles and still need drive his girlfriend to work every morning.

I don't know about Belize, but elsewhere in Central America local women don't drive, I think it's considered an essentially masculine activity.

The truck was probably for work, the SUV for driving his lovely lady and her two children.

Independent women like Francesca, no husband but owning property herself, driving her much younger boyfriend around, would be a very unusual figure in other parts of Central America, and I assume the same in Belize.

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[Hazel]

Latest 4 Videos - Channel 5 Belize News

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[video=youtube;J9VczQyeDxo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9VczQyeDxo[/video]

 

[Hazel]

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[video=youtube;2xaMrzXeBOY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xaMrzXeBOY[/video]

 

[Hazel]

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[video=youtube;ukMQfIXgOCU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukMQfIXgOCU[/video]

 

[Hazel]

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[video=youtube;IJoEzLg6zTs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJoEzLg6zTs[/video]

 

[Wondergirl]

Thanks WG - I did watch it again and the reporter only says "The FBI was also collecting samples from another SUV"

It must have been a video that I watched but did not link.

I will check tonight

 

[LayzeeDayzee]

Okay but even if that's the case, it still doesn't make sense to me. He's denying guilt in the casino theft stuff, adamantly stating he stole nothing but was merely hired to remove those items from the casino, that he was "just doing his job." So.....adamantly denying any wrong-doing or having stolen anything. Much the way he's denying being in any way involved in the abduction and murders of FM and DD. So why hire a team of lawyers for one matter you've been charged with but deny being guilty of, yet not hire lawyers for a completely different matter you've been charged with yet deny being involved with?

If his assertion that he doesn't need a lawyer for the matter of the murders is because he's innocent and has cooperated with everyone (FBI, LE, given DNA, etc) then why wouldn't he be of that same mindset with the matter of the casino theft he's accused of - him proclaiming his total innocence. He's proclaiming total innocence in both matters so why does only one matter require a team of lawyers? (particularly when a charge of theft would, I'm thinking, carry a much lesser penalty than that of murdering 2 ppl).

Just makes no sense to me. It's just very inconsistent.

If I understand correctly, JD retained the 3 attorneys for the charges related to the casino:

Isani Cayetano
“Now you’ve secured legal counsel for this particular charge that you have been able to successfully meet bail. Have you retained legal services going forward with regards to the previous suspicion that you are involved in this double murder?”


John DeShaies
“I don’t need to have any counsel because I’ve never done anything. I’ve had full negotiations with the F.B.I. I’ve gone over everything and they’ve gotten all my information. They’ve taken my DNA, they’ve checked my vehicles and they checked my vehicles, they’ve checked the entire house. There’s no reason why I would need counsel.”
http://edition.channel5belize.com/archives/146156

 

[PaxBelize]

I don't know about Belize, but elsewhere in Central America local women don't drive, I think it's considered an essentially masculine activity.

The truck was probably for work, the SUV for driving his lovely lady and her two children.

Independent women like Francesca, no husband but owning property herself, driving her much younger boyfriend around, would be a very unusual figure in other parts of Central America, and I assume the same in Belize.

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Women in Belize drive. Some even drive taxis.

 

[Satchie]

He's been charged with theft and has to appear in court to face those charges in November. He actually DID take the stuff, but wants to get the charges dropped on the technicality that someone hired him to do it. (So if someone burgles my house, then says someone paid him to do it, does that make it okay?) That's a very challenging legal situation, he needs lawyers. At this point, he's not facing any charges for the murders.

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[fred&edna]

He's been charged with theft and has to appear in court to face those charges in November. He actually DID take the stuff, but wants to get the charges dropped on the technicality that someone hired him to do it. (So if someone burgles my house, then says someone paid him to do it, does that make it okay?) That's a very challenging legal situation, he needs lawyers. At this point, he's not facing any charges for the murders.

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That's the way I see it.

If I haven't been charged with murder then I don't need to retain legal counsel to defend myself against "maybe in the future" charges. If my alibi proves I couldn't have committed murder, and there's no proof of "murder for hire" then... murder charges won't be filed against me.

 

[fred&edna]

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[video=youtube;ukMQfIXgOCU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukMQfIXgOCU[/video]

Why does this video say "Before Re-Arrest, Canadian National Denies Charges".... was he re-arrested for something??? What am I missing??

 

[Hazel]

double post

 

[Hazel]

Okay but even if that's the case, it still doesn't make sense to me. He's denying guilt in the casino theft stuff, adamantly stating he stole nothing but was merely hired to remove those items from the casino, that he was "just doing his job." So.....adamantly denying any wrong-doing or having stolen anything. Much the way he's denying being in any way involved in the abduction and murders of FM and DD. So why hire a team of lawyers for one matter you've been charged with but deny being guilty of, yet not hire lawyers for a completely different matter you've been charged with yet deny being involved with?

If his assertion that he doesn't need a lawyer for the matter of the murders is because he's innocent and has cooperated with everyone (FBI, LE, given DNA, etc) then why wouldn't he be of that same mindset with the matter of the casino theft he's accused of - him proclaiming his total innocence. He's proclaiming total innocence in both matters so why does only one matter require a team of lawyers? (particularly when a charge of theft would, I'm thinking, carry a much lesser penalty than that of murdering 2 ppl).

Just makes no sense to me. It's just very inconsistent.

Because the 2 charges were related to the casino.
He was a person of interest, but not charged with the murders.
As the reporter said, there were some rumours he might be re-arrested after getting bail, but that didn't happen. His lawyers told him he was cleared of all wrong-doing with regards to FM & DD abduction and murders.

He still has to clear his name with regards to the casino charges:
"... he is to reappear in court for his next court date on November 6, 2017."
https://www.facebook.com/LoveFMNews...4262182112994/679737405565466/?type=3&theater

 

[Wondergirl]

Because the 2 charges were related to the casino.
He was a person of interest, but not charged with the murders.
As the reporter said, there were some rumours he might be re-arrested after getting bail, but that didn't happen. His lawyers told him he was cleared of all wrong-doing with regards to FM & DD abduction and murders.

He still has to clear his name with regards to the casino charges:
"... he is to reappear in court for his next court date on November 6, 2017."
https://www.facebook.com/LoveFMNews...4262182112994/679737405565466/?type=3&theater

If it was me, I would be OUT of there!

Sorry but I would not be hanging around to see what else they could throw at me and make stick.

JMO