GUILTY CA - Aramazd Andressian, 5, South Pasadena, 18 April 2017 #2

[Psychic Sleuth]

LE has stated that they think he was at Lake Cachuma all day. He was seen at the Lake Cachuma Rec Area store (some time within 11:30 - 2:30 ???) purchasing items, and his car was jump started in the Lake Cachuma area, although we don't know what time. LE has stated that they think he was at Lake Cachuma all day.

One can only conclude that he was in the areas of Nojoqui Falls and Solvang some time between 2:00 am and 8:00 am. If you consider driving time either way, it sounds like you can shave off at least 1 hour from each end to account for travel time. Therefore, if my math is correct, they would actually need to figure out what he was doing between Nojoqui Falls and Solvang between 3:00 am and 7:00 am.

Nojoqui is a 3 hour drive from Disneyland and you drive through Solvang to get to Cachuma from there.

 

[Daae]

LE has stated that they think he was at Lake Cachuma all day. He was seen at the Lake Cachuma Rec Area store (some time within 11:30 - 2:30 ???) purchasing items, and his car was jump started in the Lake Cachuma area, although we don't know what time. LE has stated that they think he was at Lake Cachuma all day.

One can only conclude that he was in the areas of Nojoqui Falls and Solvang some time between 2:00 am and 8:00 am. If you consider driving time either way, it sounds like you can shave off at least 1 hour from each end to account for travel time. Therefore, if my math is correct, they would actually need to figure out what he was doing between Nojoqui Falls and Solvang between 3:00 am and 7:00 am.

I was walking the road to Nojoqui Falls today. I didn't see any signs, such as matted grass, atv tracks etc., of the search on Saturday. I was overwhelmed by how dense the brush and poison oak was on either side of the road. There were many areas of steep slopes. The acreage seemed like it would be impossible to thoroughly search! I walked about 3 miles and there were many places to pull a car off the road. I didn't see any other walkers today so it would be empty at night. Here are some pictures from my walk.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I think what they were doing for roads like this is pulling over at all the turn outs and letting dogs sniff around. I saw a video of them searching on the pass. They called them scent dogs but I would guess they were probably cadaver dogs. It looks pretty thick in there with all the rain we had. Did you go all the way to the end of the road?

 

[liltexans]

[video=twitter;874765810874626056]https://twitter.com/NBCLA/status/874765810874626056[/video]

 

[liltexans]

Aramazd Andressian Jr.'s mother supplemented the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisor's reward of $20,000 with $10,000 raised through the [redacted] page "Finding Aramazd." Her 5-year-old child was last seen at Disneyland on April 20 with his father, Aramazd Andressian Sr., who was found unconscious at Arroyo Seco Park two days later and could not account for his son.


The search for the child has taken place across several counties in Southern California and involved several different police and sheriff's departments. On Saturday, investigators returned to the Lake Cachuma area in Santa Barbara County to search for evidence regarding his whereabouts.

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/l...428263043.html?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_LABrand

 

[GigTu]

Nojoqui is a 3 hour drive from Disneyland and you drive through Solvang to get to Cachuma from there.

Okay, so if he left D-land at 1:00 am and drove 3 hours he would get to Nojoqui Falls around 4:00 am at earliest? However, LE is saying they are looking for answers from 2:00 am to 8:00 am so I'm guessing he was spotted somewhere in OC at 2:00 am (maybe the D-Land parking lot?). If so, 2:00 - 5:00 am drive time? The whole loop is about 6 hours of driving time, more or less.

 

[GigTu]

Does anyone frequent the park enough to know if it would take an hour to get out of the Disneyland parking lot if you leave the park around 1:00 am on a Thursday night in mid-April?

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

Does anyone frequent the park enough to know if it would take an hour to get out of the Disneyland parking lot if you leave the park around 1:00 am on a Thursday night in mid-April?

According to what I just read D-land closes at 12am. I would guess that if you stayed til closing and were leaving with the masses it could take a while to get out of the parking lot. I doubt it would ever take 2 hours. I wonder if he took his Mom and sister home and that's where they are coming up with the 2am timeline.

 

[GigTu]

The articles state Ara Jr. was seen on video surveillance leaving the park at 1:00 am. Other articles mention AA Sr's car being seen at the park at 2:00 am.

If the park closed at 12:00 am, why were not not seen on surveillance leaving until 1:00 am? If it took them that long to get out of the park, then i guess it could take another hour to actually get past the park's parking lot gates. Are there cameras on those?

 

[crhedBngr]

Praying Ara Jr. is found soon.

 

[Daae]

I think what they were doing for roads like this is pulling over at all the turn outs and letting dogs sniff around. I saw a video of them searching on the pass. They called them scent dogs but I would guess they were probably cadaver dogs. It looks pretty thick in there with all the rain we had. Did you go all the way to the end of the road?

No I walked from the Alisal Ranch to Nojoqui.

 

[charminglane]

The articles state Ara Jr. was seen on video surveillance leaving the park at 1:00 am. Other articles mention AA Sr's car being seen at the park at 2:00 am.

If the park closed at 12:00 am, why were not not seen on surveillance leaving until 1:00 am? If it took them that long to get out of the park, then i guess it could take another hour to actually get past the park's parking lot gates. Are there cameras on those?

This leads to the second car at Disneyland theory.

 

[Daae]

I'm surprised they let the search dogs off leash like this picture shows. I'm glad that they are able to cover a greater swath of land this way. (Edhat news)

https://www.edhat.com/news/search-concluded-for-missing-5-year-old

 

[msphilosopher]

Was it ever determined how he became unconscious? From earlier reports, IIRC, he didn't know how he got unconscious, correct?

 

[GigTu]

He was faking, according to LE.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I'm surprised they let the search dogs off leash like this picture shows. I'm glad that they are able to cover a greater swath of land this way. (Edhat news)View attachment 118330

https://www.edhat.com/news/search-concluded-for-missing-5-year-old

Yes they do where it's safe to do so. The dogs can cover a large area quickly.

 

[xenawarrior]

Just some thoughts after reading the recent WS posts....

Little Ara hasn't been confirmed dead. <modsnip>

I'm hoping Ara Sr handed Ara Jr off to someone. It possibly happened between 2am and 8am Friday, April 21.

The unconfirmed witness at the lake I'm starting to think was staged.

Just wondering (this is an assumption since ITT closed), if dad wasn't working, how was he paying his rent in south Pasadena? How did he have $ to afford Disneyland tickets? Those are expensive!

So who would have Ara Jr? It has to be someone who knows them well and would be willing to go through all this. LE should look in other states where relatives and in-laws/ex-in-laws reside.

 

[charminglane]

Do we I know if Ara Sr. Attended school in Santa Barbara area?
Do we know if Jr. was enrolled at a school? Which one?

 

[GigTu]

Just some thoughts after reading the recent WS posts....

Little Ara hasn't been confirmed dead. <modsnip>

I'm hoping Ara Sr handed Ara Jr off to someone. It possibly happened between 2am and 8am Friday, April 21.

The unconfirmed witness at the lake I'm starting to think was staged.

Just wondering (this is an assumption since ITT closed), if dad wasn't working, how was he paying his rent in south Pasadena? How did he have $ to afford Disneyland tickets? Those are expensive!

So who would have Ara Jr? It has to be someone who knows them well and would be willing to go through all this. LE should look in other states where relatives and in-laws/ex-in-laws reside.

LE is showing pictures of searches in water drains and in vast fields. I think they are leading us to conclude that they believe little Ara was harmed and then hid. <modsnip>

Because we haven't heard how many family cars went to Disneyland, and how anyone got home, I'm holding out hope that gma took him and passed him off until this all dies down. I want this darling to be okay, so I am keeping hope alive as well.

 

[crhedBngr]

Ari, Jr., where are you?