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Is this the first we’ve heard of MTV?
CA CA - Bakersfield 3: Baylee Despot missing, James Kulstad, Micah Holsonbake murdered, Apr 2018 *Guilty* #3
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The first I have for sure
Wow. So many new names...MF and SB in addition to CS kidnapped?
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Yes.
An old sm post from mq, I have a whole new perspective now. Also, mq has been saying from the beginning the one of the b3 was involved in the others disappearance and frequently directed that towards Jane. Maybe he has lied about everything?
“A very smart, very beautiful person once told me that if I'm always angry then I'm living in the past; if I'm always stressed its cause I'm living in the future. That if I wanted to be happy, then i need to live in the present. I'm so tired of being angry and stressed. I just want to go back to being happy. So here's what I'm doing to do. I'm going to delete this profile along with all the rest of my social media profiles. I'm going to stop listening to all of the gossip and the rantings of the weak-minded sheep with nothing better to do than bump their gums about **** they know absolutely nothing about. I'm going to do my very best to ignore the insults and allegations made by the bitter, the ignorant, the arrogant, the envious, the lonely, the scared, and the delusional. I'm sure anybody actually reading this knows what I'm talking about, which brings me to the hardest part of this. It's time for me to let go, Baylee. I'm sorry I couldn't protect you, I'm sorry I failed you. But the more I try to dig into what happened, the more I discover who the real Baylee was. I dont know if you'll read this. I dont know if you even care. But I'm letting go. Remember this though. You didn't fail me and you were enough. Before I go I thought I'd drop a little knowledge on all you sleuthing drama junkies. I have heard an unlimited amount of theories as to what happened to Baylee. Is she missing? Did she leave? Is she dead or alive? If she's dead, who did it? Is she connected to micah? Is micah dead or alive? Howd they know each other? None of it matters to Jane Parrent. All of her theories lead back to me being the bad guy. From the day I met jane she has accused me of being an awful person. Everything from a brainwashing kidnapper to a pimp. One thing you've never called me, jane, is a liar. Because if I'm anything, I'm honest, almost to a fault. I keep it 100 even when its ugly. But you Jane have been caught in several lies. Lies about me, about Baylee, about your family, its connections, and so much more. Somehow, nobody cares. The truth is you hated me from day one because of my age and because I gave Baylee a way out. A way to get away from you Jane. Everybody who knows Baylee, knows how she couldn't stand to be around you for more than 30 minutes. How many times did she call me crying, begging me to come get her. Or when she ran out of your house barefoot , hysterical over a physical confrontation with you. Calling me to come and get her. You really began hating me when she started moving her things out of your house and into mine. Behaving like a jealous ex-girlfriend. Lets be honest with everybody. Baylee ran away. . . . for the third time now Jane. Not at all to say that she is not to be looked for. Something is not right about all of this. But it's been made very clear to me that it's none of my business. I have learned all I need to about this mess. And as far as her connection to micah goes. Yes they knew each other long before I met either one of them. Truth is they pretty much hated each other. It took all I could do to keep them from killing each other. What the families and media went tell you is that micah had more enemies than friends. That he was not a very good person. That he suffered from a mental disorder and was off his meds for quite some time. I won't say all there is to know about micah because it's not my way. I will say this though. He loves his son. Dillon was his anchor. Without his anchor, micah became lost in drugs and alcohol. And Baylee is the furthest thing from what her mother claims she be. I won't drag Baylee's name in the mud. She's had a rough go at it for sure. Abused from age 8 in her own home. Beaten by her husband as a newlywed. Then raped as she ran from one bad relationship to the next. No wonder she was addicted. Suicidal. And when I met her, homicidal. All she wanted was somebody to listen to her, believe her, and care. I won't say I was her knight in shining armor or the answer to her problems. All I did was listen, believe, and care. So are there disappearances connected? I dont ******* know. But I will say this. The only reason I even evolved myself with micah and Baylee, together, the connection that exists between us is that micah knew about the bad **** that's been happening to young women in Bakersfield. Young women like Baylee. He knew about girls getting drugged. Raped. Abducted. He knew names of people doing it and names of people helping. Baylee and I were asking questions about " business that was not our own ". That's how it was put to me. I didn't back off and neither did Baylee. Micah tried playing both sides of the fence which I believe ultimately lead to his disappearance. So here I stand. Next to the only one brave enough to speak the truth. I love you Sara Wedemeyer. There's a reason why Jane and her troll faced hobbit of a daughter, Katelyn, are hating on Sara. Because she's not a weak minded sheep. Everybody thinks I'm the boogie man because I knew both Baylee Cheyanne and Micah Holsombake, and they're both missing. Well Katelyn, you dated micah up until you left Bakersfield, and didn't your father go missing in October? You ex boyfriend, your dad, your sister. What the **** is going on in that family of yours. They conduct search warrants on y'alls house and vehicles too.???? I bet not. Where is mr. Hudson. Was he found? I wonder if he poked his nose into business that was not his own. I'll leave you all with that to chew on. My point to all of this is simply to say I'm not your bad guy. I'm simply Jane's boogieman. Jane Parrent, I'm sorry your daughter is missing. You should have done a better job of being an actual parrent and maybe she wouldn't have ran away. Acknowledge your faults, your disorder, and your disease. Then get help. Stay away from me, my friends, and my family. And pray”
“A very smart, very beautiful person once told me that if I'm always angry then I'm living in the past; if I'm always stressed its cause I'm living in the future. That if I wanted to be happy, then i need to live in the present. I'm so tired of being angry and stressed. I just want to go back to being happy. So here's what I'm doing to do. I'm going to delete this profile along with all the rest of my social media profiles. I'm going to stop listening to all of the gossip and the rantings of the weak-minded sheep with nothing better to do than bump their gums about **** they know absolutely nothing about. I'm going to do my very best to ignore the insults and allegations made by the bitter, the ignorant, the arrogant, the envious, the lonely, the scared, and the delusional. I'm sure anybody actually reading this knows what I'm talking about, which brings me to the hardest part of this. It's time for me to let go, Baylee. I'm sorry I couldn't protect you, I'm sorry I failed you. But the more I try to dig into what happened, the more I discover who the real Baylee was. I dont know if you'll read this. I dont know if you even care. But I'm letting go. Remember this though. You didn't fail me and you were enough. Before I go I thought I'd drop a little knowledge on all you sleuthing drama junkies. I have heard an unlimited amount of theories as to what happened to Baylee. Is she missing? Did she leave? Is she dead or alive? If she's dead, who did it? Is she connected to micah? Is micah dead or alive? Howd they know each other? None of it matters to Jane Parrent. All of her theories lead back to me being the bad guy. From the day I met jane she has accused me of being an awful person. Everything from a brainwashing kidnapper to a pimp. One thing you've never called me, jane, is a liar. Because if I'm anything, I'm honest, almost to a fault. I keep it 100 even when its ugly. But you Jane have been caught in several lies. Lies about me, about Baylee, about your family, its connections, and so much more. Somehow, nobody cares. The truth is you hated me from day one because of my age and because I gave Baylee a way out. A way to get away from you Jane. Everybody who knows Baylee, knows how she couldn't stand to be around you for more than 30 minutes. How many times did she call me crying, begging me to come get her. Or when she ran out of your house barefoot , hysterical over a physical confrontation with you. Calling me to come and get her. You really began hating me when she started moving her things out of your house and into mine. Behaving like a jealous ex-girlfriend. Lets be honest with everybody. Baylee ran away. . . . for the third time now Jane. Not at all to say that she is not to be looked for. Something is not right about all of this. But it's been made very clear to me that it's none of my business. I have learned all I need to about this mess. And as far as her connection to micah goes. Yes they knew each other long before I met either one of them. Truth is they pretty much hated each other. It took all I could do to keep them from killing each other. What the families and media went tell you is that micah had more enemies than friends. That he was not a very good person. That he suffered from a mental disorder and was off his meds for quite some time. I won't say all there is to know about micah because it's not my way. I will say this though. He loves his son. Dillon was his anchor. Without his anchor, micah became lost in drugs and alcohol. And Baylee is the furthest thing from what her mother claims she be. I won't drag Baylee's name in the mud. She's had a rough go at it for sure. Abused from age 8 in her own home. Beaten by her husband as a newlywed. Then raped as she ran from one bad relationship to the next. No wonder she was addicted. Suicidal. And when I met her, homicidal. All she wanted was somebody to listen to her, believe her, and care. I won't say I was her knight in shining armor or the answer to her problems. All I did was listen, believe, and care. So are there disappearances connected? I dont ******* know. But I will say this. The only reason I even evolved myself with micah and Baylee, together, the connection that exists between us is that micah knew about the bad **** that's been happening to young women in Bakersfield. Young women like Baylee. He knew about girls getting drugged. Raped. Abducted. He knew names of people doing it and names of people helping. Baylee and I were asking questions about " business that was not our own ". That's how it was put to me. I didn't back off and neither did Baylee. Micah tried playing both sides of the fence which I believe ultimately lead to his disappearance. So here I stand. Next to the only one brave enough to speak the truth. I love you Sara Wedemeyer. There's a reason why Jane and her troll faced hobbit of a daughter, Katelyn, are hating on Sara. Because she's not a weak minded sheep. Everybody thinks I'm the boogie man because I knew both Baylee Cheyanne and Micah Holsombake, and they're both missing. Well Katelyn, you dated micah up until you left Bakersfield, and didn't your father go missing in October? You ex boyfriend, your dad, your sister. What the **** is going on in that family of yours. They conduct search warrants on y'alls house and vehicles too.???? I bet not. Where is mr. Hudson. Was he found? I wonder if he poked his nose into business that was not his own. I'll leave you all with that to chew on. My point to all of this is simply to say I'm not your bad guy. I'm simply Jane's boogieman. Jane Parrent, I'm sorry your daughter is missing. You should have done a better job of being an actual parrent and maybe she wouldn't have ran away. Acknowledge your faults, your disorder, and your disease. Then get help. Stay away from me, my friends, and my family. And pray”
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My first thought was this sounds like what MQ has been trying to insinuate since the beginning and I am personally hesitant to fully believe what he has to say... plus this comment has always made me believe he has known more (in my opinion he basically admits knowing by posting these comment).
I think MQ is good at manipulating the truth so, yes I have always believed that there is probably partial truth to a lot of what he may say. However, I also believe he is a criminal (not small time crime - serious crimes), abuser, manipulative, controlling, his odd living situation, and we know MQ is extremely violent (electric shock dog collars, the other times he threatened people). ALL of this has to be taken into consideration when saying she was involved in these new charges. She is not here to defend herself, as well as, the court can not prove she is dead or missing (Or even prove she is not in hiding like some people are telling them) so they have to charge her. This is all just my opinion.
If this is all off of MTV account or anyone else close to MQ- I dont fully believe it either. It is definitely a good way to cause people to have reasonable doubt though! I would want to understand more, what is his connection to MQ, and is it because he is a witness willing to testify in court against Baylee or if there is actual evidence against Baylee. Also, I am curious as to what the motive is for Baylee? I feel like we can get a few ideas of MQs motive but what would Baylees motive be? Right now I am leaning more towards fear and force unless they can legitimately otherwise.
- I wish we understood more about the events her sister brought up in the interview. Who was picking her up and taking her for sometimes days at a time? Unfortunately, I believe that Baylee was a liability to MQ and she knew too much and that is why she has not been found. Which also makes me less likely to think she was a willing participant.
Could MTV be a gun seller #??? It mentioned guns w Micah and MQ and Baylee..
New names like MF-maybe the woman from the orchard and SB same thing people willing to stand up and testify about MQ violant behavior. (like CS too) But I am just assuming this info and not saying that is accurate.
Beyond all the new speculation from these charges, Baylee needs to be found!!! She is still missing and her family deserves to know where she is! Bring Baylee home! I hope that this sparks more people being willing to talk.
I am glad the MQ is being charged w Micah's murder and I hope and pray the truth in all this is revealed.
I hope and pray for answers for James, his killer(s) still need to be identified and brought to justice.
Praying for the families, the BK3 mommas, and all their loved ones!!
I think MQ is good at manipulating the truth so, yes I have always believed that there is probably partial truth to a lot of what he may say. However, I also believe he is a criminal (not small time crime - serious crimes), abuser, manipulative, controlling, his odd living situation, and we know MQ is extremely violent (electric shock dog collars, the other times he threatened people). ALL of this has to be taken into consideration when saying she was involved in these new charges. She is not here to defend herself, as well as, the court can not prove she is dead or missing (Or even prove she is not in hiding like some people are telling them) so they have to charge her. This is all just my opinion.
If this is all off of MTV account or anyone else close to MQ- I dont fully believe it either. It is definitely a good way to cause people to have reasonable doubt though! I would want to understand more, what is his connection to MQ, and is it because he is a witness willing to testify in court against Baylee or if there is actual evidence against Baylee. Also, I am curious as to what the motive is for Baylee? I feel like we can get a few ideas of MQs motive but what would Baylees motive be? Right now I am leaning more towards fear and force unless they can legitimately otherwise.
- I wish we understood more about the events her sister brought up in the interview. Who was picking her up and taking her for sometimes days at a time? Unfortunately, I believe that Baylee was a liability to MQ and she knew too much and that is why she has not been found. Which also makes me less likely to think she was a willing participant.
Could MTV be a gun seller #??? It mentioned guns w Micah and MQ and Baylee..
New names like MF-maybe the woman from the orchard and SB same thing people willing to stand up and testify about MQ violant behavior. (like CS too) But I am just assuming this info and not saying that is accurate.
Beyond all the new speculation from these charges, Baylee needs to be found!!! She is still missing and her family deserves to know where she is! Bring Baylee home! I hope that this sparks more people being willing to talk.
I am glad the MQ is being charged w Micah's murder and I hope and pray the truth in all this is revealed.
I hope and pray for answers for James, his killer(s) still need to be identified and brought to justice.
Praying for the families, the BK3 mommas, and all their loved ones!!
Baylee’s sister dated micah, I’ve always wondered if the rumors micah and Baylee hated each other was true. Especially if it ended badly between micah and her sister. I found MFs sm and see Jane has liked her posts, maybe Jane (and the other moms) helped her come forward? MTV was in prison for years before all of this and looks like he was released not long before everything started (late 2017). There seems to be a lot that wasn’t said in the press conference, but what I found super interesting is that they released all the victims names (CS, SB, MF- is it because they feel they are safe now with MQ AND MTV behind bars? Also, when they asked about how micah died she said that would be talked about in court but it definitely seems like they know exactly how he died.
It still leaves a huge question, why?? Why were MQ MTV and Baylee torturing micah? What were they trying to get out of him or punish him for? I find it hard to believe it was just the stolen gun mentioned previously. There’s been so much said about micah being involved with human trafficking and we’ve always been told they narrative that he was rescuing girls from it. I question that- and if Baylee and/or SH was involves/ exposed to that world. Could Baylee blame MH for that?
All of my previous comments in the threads have been deleted *especially* any that have ever questioned Baylee’s character. Now that this has come out, I wish we would have been able to explore that angle more and not been shut down immediately. What if we stopped thinking of Baylee as a good girl caught up with a bad guy, and thought about her as a criminal? She’s been part of the gun manufacturing (there was a warrant for her,mq,mh and 3 others for it), been arrested for having a loaded weapon, and now been named as a alleged torturer/murderer. If she were a man with the same things going on we would never collectively think of him as “good guy”. All IMOO
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I'm still wondering why they release names of victims in a press conference they are victims don't they have rights? Speaking of the unrelated kidnapping charges against MQ
Just catching up on the news, but MTV has a history in WA state beginning around 2004 with controlled substances, reckless driving, etc. He must’ve been around 18-19 back then.
He picks up with some arrests in Kern county in 2011/12 (narcotics, petty theft) and falls off the radar until he’s actively arrested in Kern again beginning in late 2017, now with narcotics and gun charges. Any idea where he was from 2012-17?
Looks like he’s in prison in Soledad, CA at the moment
He picks up with some arrests in Kern county in 2011/12 (narcotics, petty theft) and falls off the radar until he’s actively arrested in Kern again beginning in late 2017, now with narcotics and gun charges. Any idea where he was from 2012-17?
Looks like he’s in prison in Soledad, CA at the moment
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I was very surprised they released these names especially since they are on unrelated charges against Queen.
I hope they were told that their names were being released before the conference.
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And it looks like it is being consolidated with another case.
Can someone please help me remember, but 1/20/18, MQ takes MF to vineyard and threatens her to find out if BD is cheating on him. (Correct?)
3/23/18 Micah last seen
4/8/18 James shot
Then 4/15/18, MQ assaults SB with a firearm. Anyone remember what this was about? Did SB know Micah and Baylee?
4/25/18 Baylee last seen
1/27/19, MQ kidnaps CS and stole his phone, I think. Again, I’m rusty on what info MQ was looking for.
Can anyone help me remember, please? I’m trying to fill in the timeline to try to make sense of it all. It’s been a while since I last looked at this case
3/23/18 Micah last seen
4/8/18 James shot
Then 4/15/18, MQ assaults SB with a firearm. Anyone remember what this was about? Did SB know Micah and Baylee?
4/25/18 Baylee last seen
1/27/19, MQ kidnaps CS and stole his phone, I think. Again, I’m rusty on what info MQ was looking for.
Can anyone help me remember, please? I’m trying to fill in the timeline to try to make sense of it all. It’s been a while since I last looked at this case
Also, does anyone think MTV is trying to cut a deal?
From his arrest records, it looks like he was booked into the CA Dept of Corrections on 11/2/18. Idk what facility, though, and on what charges.
On 3/4/2020, he was in custody at Soledad in Monterey County. Idk if he was transferred here from a prior facility or picked up on a new charge? He was eligible for parole last month but denied.
I can’t help but think he’s the one talking as he would have known Baylee went in the apartment to get a knife, and/or that MQ looked up how to dissolve a body. How else would LE have this info if not for an eye witness?
From his arrest records, it looks like he was booked into the CA Dept of Corrections on 11/2/18. Idk what facility, though, and on what charges.
On 3/4/2020, he was in custody at Soledad in Monterey County. Idk if he was transferred here from a prior facility or picked up on a new charge? He was eligible for parole last month but denied.
I can’t help but think he’s the one talking as he would have known Baylee went in the apartment to get a knife, and/or that MQ looked up how to dissolve a body. How else would LE have this info if not for an eye witness?
I can’t imagine MQs lawyer is allowing him to say anything with a big plea deal
I also wonder if MF/SB/CS helped fill in some of the dots for law enforcement when they came forward. Maybe since MQ and MTV we’re both in custody already, they were able to take the info the others gave and piece Micah’s murder together. Is it possible neither MQ or MTV have given any information at all?
On the Bakersfield 3 Facebook and channel 17 Facebook there's a quick segment that has a jailhouse interview with MTV. The timestamps says 2018 and he was asked of he knew MH and BD so he was known to someone from the channel and police.
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I have so many questions, I will post later after I make a list. With this new info, it has me rethinking previous statements and posts and has made think of new questions.
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I can’t recall any time where they release victims names before the defendant is charged. And usually it’s when the victim comes forward themselves in an interview. Very strange indeed to me.