walklikeacat
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Sorry, it is the Cole´s who got an speakeasy:http://www.yelp.com/biz/coles-los-angeles-2Here is a speakeasy just nearby: http://www.yelp.com/biz/the-varnish-los-angeles-2
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Sorry, it is the Cole´s who got an speakeasy:http://www.yelp.com/biz/coles-los-angeles-2Here is a speakeasy just nearby: http://www.yelp.com/biz/the-varnish-los-angeles-2
I believe it was determined she was in San Diego at that time. There is a place called the gaslamp speakeasy that has live jazz there. It's in the gas lamp district and is quite popular
http://gaslampspeakeasy.com
I agree. IMO, although it is all interesting, this kind of thing derails the thread. It's no longer a sleuthing site and more a fantasy/ghost story/Illuminati conspiracy thread. It's not helpful. It's also not Websleuths. And it's fast making it unproductive and unpleasant to visit the thread looking for new info or logical theories.
Everyone has something interesting to say but I think it would be more productive if we kept the conspiracy theory and supernatural stuff off the threads.
For conspiracy theorist enthusiasts, there are forums more suited to that sort of discussion. Like the David Icke forums for instance. I dip in there now and then to hear some of it, lol
I agree these things don't seem really relevant to this case.
I haven't caught up on the board since last night, but anyone notice that Elisa's tumblr was updated? I am an avid Tumblr user and know all about automatic queue, but it's still creeping me out.
I wonder... if anyone has access to her Tumblr? Did the perp steal her computer and is now posting and taunting us?
VERY creepy. Especially with the image posted (a tarot card of "The Hermit")
http://nouvelle-nouveau.tumblr.com/post/44129845296
Yeah, but this: http://www.examiner.com/article/elisa-lam-update-body-found-tank-decomposed-for-as-long-as-19-days
says that she checked into the Cecil on January 26th. From the looks of her Twitter/Tumblr, she went to the speakeasy on January 27th.
Adding to my confusion is a post on her Tumblr made on January 29th, that starts "I have arrived in La-La-Land..." (although this doesn't necessarily mean that she arrived in Los Angeles precisely ON the January 29th, only that she chose to blog about arriving in Los Angeles ON January 29th)
Source: http://nouvelle-nouveau.tumblr.com/post/41786151020/i-have-arrived-in-laland-and-there-is-a
Some people online have said that if Elisa accidentally pressed Door Hold, she would have rectified it by pressing Door Close. So why didn't she?
We have already explained previously that Elisa thought there was someone else outside the elevator pressing the buttons. Normally, if we enter a lift and then the lift door opened again after we thought it would close, we would naturally assume someone is outside the lift making the door open up again. That's why Elisa stuck her head out to see if anyone was there. Besides, we have deduced that perhaps Elisa never really wanted to go downstairs in the lift anyway. Perhaps she was actually playing a game, having fun, or flirting with someone and playing hide and seek or hard to get.
Lastly can people please stop posting up fake scary pictures alleged to be of Elisa's. Someone just posted a picture saying that it was a self-portrait photo Elisa took of herself whilst in the hotel. If things are going to proceed along those lines, one might as well put on a face mask and take a photo of oneself, post it online and claim that this is a picture of the alleged "murderer" taken right after one has killed Elisa, with maybe someone posing as dead Elisa lying in the background of the photo with red lips that betray the authenticity of the poster!
I find it disgraceful that people out there are trying to spook our online readers with fake spooky pictures like this. I hope those who have seen those fake pictures not be put off by them and return to engage in robust discussion over what really happened to Elisa Lam.
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This is also the same reporter who said that the body was floating face up (which we all know bodies float face down) It was also reported that the body was "wedged" in the tank by MSM. Who was right, who was wrong?
Wedged in the tank means to me that the body was caught in the pipes somehow inside of the tank which makes more sense to me than floating (face up or face down) because this would have likely explained the cause in the reduction in water pressure if the body was obstructing the inflow of water to the pipe leading to the rooms in the hotel and everyone should know that the intake pipe for a water tank would be near the bottom of the tank.
Body of Missing Tourist Elisa Lam, 21, Found in Cecil Hotel Water Tank LOS ANGELES - YouTube
I believe it's been established that she arrived in San Diego on the 26 and LA on the 29th. Her travel plans with dates were listed in an earlier thread. Not sure which ..
CNN says she checked into Hotel Cecil on January 26th:
http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/21/us/california-hotel-water-corpse/index.html
So does Huffpo: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/21/elisa-lam-coroner-says-mo_n_2736956.html
Not that CNN and Huffington Post are totally credible sources of info, but I haven't seen anything that says she checked into the Cecil or arrived in LA on the 29th.
You know looking at his facebook page and his post in the LA Times things don't jive. He's young for sure. I could easily see his LA Times posting as a troll job.
The name Alvin Taylor the offender comes up on a conspiracy website 4 days earlier. Nate could have easily read that and wove it into his tale.
Yeah.. I wouldn't call CNN credible.. after all look at the man they interviewed in that very link.
http://www.bustedoffenders.com/california/los-angeles/sex-offenders/alvin-taylor/1869408332832
Just makes you wonder just how much "investigative" work they do at all.. if any.
We had the Johnny Altinger / Mark Twitchell (perp) case up here in Canada a couple of years ago. Twitchell lured Altinger from BC to Alberta under the guise of a meet-up with a female. Twitchell was a filmmaker who apparently videod the killing of Altinger, and had somehow accessed Altinger's onine IDs and passwords and continued to send messages to Altinger's friends/family(?) pretending he had met a woman and was off on some adventure with her. It was a very ugly case.
I'm not totally convinced re the queuing thing going on. Do we know if Elisa had a laptop with her or was she strictly using the borrowed Blackberry? If she was without laptop and then Blackberry, it is conceivable she would have used the internet facilities within the hotel to keep in touch with her family. I wonder if LE has accessed the hotel computers to see who Elisa may have been communicating with, other than family, online during her stay.
I hear ya. But this is literally driving me crazy. There are so many pieces of this puzzle that do not add up or make sense, and frankly I don't have much faith in the police department's investigation.
I am trying not to think about the elevator video and instead examine the facts, or what we believe to be facts:
FACT: She told her family she was traveling through California on her way to Santa Cruz.
FACT: She checked into the Cecil on January 26th.
FACT: She ceased communication with her family by January 31st.
My questions:
Why was Santa Cruz her final destination?
Why did she stop in LA, and why was she using a borrowed cell phone?
If she lost her borrowed cell phone as she writes in her Tumblr, how was she making daily calls home? Payphone? Hotel phone?
If she lost her borrowed cell phone, whats up with the phone that police found in her hotel room?
CNN says she checked into Hotel Cecil on January 26th:
http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/21/us/california-hotel-water-corpse/index.html
So does Huffpo: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/21/elisa-lam-coroner-says-mo_n_2736956.html
Not that CNN and Huffington Post are totally credible sources of info, but I haven't seen anything that says she checked into the Cecil or arrived in LA on the 29th.
Um, SERIOUSLY. I just found another Huffington Post story that says she checked into the Hotel Cecil on January 28.
Can someone point me in the direction of a CREDIBLE news media story that has an accurate date for Elisa's arrival in LA?