Been awhile since I've posted because I'm back to the grind
I've tried to catch up but everyone has posted so much I gave up.
I know that a lot of you have wondered what the LE think. I brought in the opinions of my friend who worked at SOC, but that is more counter-terrorism, so I know that didn't help much. This time I spoke to a close friend of mine who works as an LE officer in a difference province.
I'm hoping this conversation can help you with some of your outstanding questions in regards to how LE may think.
Please keep in mind, I've heavily edited this conversation to appear more sensitive to the subject matter. I've done my best to take out the swearing, etc.
This conversation cannot and will not be verified, so you will have to take my word for it. Posters in the very first thread will know my SM expertise, which I am trying to get verified by WS. Oh, and its really long. Sorry
RW: Let me know your initial thoughts?
CP: First it looks like she was trying to hide from someone, then
farther into the video shes definitely out of it
RW: Don't you think its strange that if someone was out there, she'd have so much freedom of movement?
CP: Yes, exactly. I think she was on something or from my experience man [Data remove]. It'd be nice to know a bit more about her background too, know what kind of stresses are in her life. Did she break up with a bf/ overworked at school etc, did she drink socially ever use drugs all that stuff.
RW: Good call mate. Apparently according to social media, she was on anti-depressants and all that *edit*. And she was on this trip to Santa Monica by herself to some *edit* farm thing.
CP: There it is right there the depressants. When people misuse or don't use when they need too they going *edit* crazy man. [Data removed].
RW: Hmmm but then how did she get in the tank, no clothes? That's not typical of suicide?
CP: Yea media likes to over complicate stuff, I bet you anti depressants + alcohol or too much anti-dep.
No clothes is common - people like to kill themselves naked [Data removed].
RW: In water though?
CP: No that's uncommon but maybe that part was accidental. Shes drugged up takes clothes off cuz shes higher than a kite (thats why u see so many naked people on COPS haha)
RW: Think maybe she went on a trip and ended up 'hiding' in the tank from something?
CP: Could've been I didn't really look at any pics of the tanks or how they opened etc. But if shes so spaced out shes ****ing around in the elevator hiding from whatever hallucinations not hard to believe she somehow falls in a water tank
RW: Yeah just looking over the video with the guys from the office and we don't see any evidence of some dude hiding from the ele cam.
CP: Exactly and if someone was after u and u were truly afraid if the elevator wasnt working ud run ur *advertiser censored* off
RW: Yeah, which is what we argued. You'd never corner yourself.
CP: Yea and remember the
media never gets the full the story and people read too much of it, i bet the investigators already know what happened. They will have her medical records, how crazy she was, etc. Like she probably is diagnosed schizo/depression/suicidal. Family and friends and relatives never say that *edit* to the media. They say she was a nice girl good student etc.
RW: So your opinion is that no murder? suicide/accident?
CP: Suicide or accident or at best something got slipped into her drink, but they will treat it like a homicide (which they should) and do a proper investigation just in case. We'd do the same, anything looks a little fishy treat it like a homicide
RW: Oh, what drugs have you seen that will allow someone to keep up like that if you spike a drink? [Data removed]
CP: It's always dependent on the person, like i agree shes walking pretty good not looking like drunk, but sometimes people then all of a sudden hit the wall (which is probably how she drowned) and i was thinking the same racking my brain on what and too be honest when u said anti-depressants makes most sense.
RW: Like not on her meds? Or hit a mental break?
CP: Combine those with alcohol or just an overdose and u see that behaviour. [Data removed] Less likely the trip of a breakdown then, usually that's spur of the moment. I dunno, if i were starting this investigation i want to know the medical history, who she talked to last, what her demeanor was like, and had she been on medication or not
RW: What do you make of the coroners saying that death is inconclusive until tox reports are back? Drowning couldn't be established b/c of body decomp?
CP:
That to me means they think she was on something. Well u never know there are always those RARE serial type/ random killing ones and those hardest to for the investigators. Like they'd be doing backgrounds on all this girls friends if she was seen in the hotel with anyone. Like if there was anyone suspicious in that hotel they'd know from video surveillance. And if they believed there was a "random" killer out there theyd release that to public cuz they have a
"duty to warn".
RW: Okay, so if they thought this was a murder, they'd have said it?
CP: If they thought it was a
Random murder, they would say.
RW: But if it was targeted by someone who wanted a rape/kill, then no?
CP: Basically they have to do a
duty to warn if they think anyone else could be in danger. So like if u poison ur girlfriend and we think its suspicious and are looking into it, i don't really have to say to the public that a murderer is out there.
RW: Okay so hypot if the she was killed by a guest or resident of that building, then they would not have to say b/c it could jepo the case?
CP: And that's a tricky one cuz if that's the case that person could pose some risk to someone else in the hotel. So id be releasing a statement saying this may be suspicious, we are warning the public especially women, to watch ur drinks, etc [Data removed].
But because they didn't do that makes me think they are 90% certain its accidental/suicide.
RW: I had it assessed as rape/murder bc of the naked body, but you saying that's common changes my mind.
CP: it still could be ull never solve it off what media gives you [Data remove]. And also maybe its super simple, she finds water tank, oh hey im a bit crazy and feel like a swim, boom rips clothes off, jumps in, oh **** im *edit* and stuck in this tank.
RW: You're sure as *edit* not going to merc someone whose alive by throwing them in a tank unless their unconscious as *edit* b/c once they know they are going to in they are going to kick and scream and do everything they can.
CP: Exactly and the elevator says it all, its not coincidence. Something is going on with that girl, drugs/mental/whatever.
RW: Okay so you've siding on the accidental/suc. death?
CP: yep and for anything a
big indicator is how the police play the media, cuz if another tourist girl ends up dead and they didn't say anything well it looks bad on them so if they haven't given out a warning its because they don't believe there is foul play. [Data remove]
But the media is just another tool that gets used