CA - Chelsea King (17) Rancho Bernardo (north San Diego County) #1

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They are asking that we all wear blue tomorrow in support. You probably already heard that though.

Yeah, thanks, I did. And I will be wearing blue!

She actually lived near your beloved Blue Sky :(

That poor class of kids at Poway, they've had a lot of losses, not just since entering high school, but even groups of them that had been together before that.
 
I'm still clinging to the idea that he has never been convicted of killing anyone, and maybe just maybe Chelsea is still alive. I pray LE gets it out of him. Does he have an attorney already?
 
He is now an official suspect in the Amber Dubois Case now

" He is also a suspect, police said, in the disappearance of 14-year-old Amber Dubois who vanished while walking to Escondido High School in 2009."
http://crime.about.com/b/2010/03/01/sex-offender-arrested-in-chelsea-king-case.htm


There is going to be HELL to pay (for the Escondido PD) because THEY dropped the ball on that one. If they had done their job from the get go, they might have caught him the first time around and Chelsea would still be alive. If this turns out to be true and he is responsible for Amber, everyone in the Escondido Police Department has blood on their hands for turning her mother away and trying to blow her off as a runaway. :banghead: :furious:
 
About.com is a collection of websites written by citizens -- not an official news source/site. I'd take this with a grain of salt. What he says below isn't backed up by an official source.

All of this is so sad. I didn't think things would end well, but this is still so sad. As a woman, I hate feeling vulnerable every time I walk outside my house. It shouldn't be this way.

He is now an official suspect in the Amber Dubois Case now

" He is also a suspect, police said, in the disappearance of 14-year-old Amber Dubois who vanished while walking to Escondido High School in 2009."
http://crime.about.com/b/2010/03/01/sex-offender-arrested-in-chelsea-king-case.htm
 
More details about how things unraveled and the search came to be on Thursday:

King said late Thursday that he came home from the gym about the same time his wife, Kelly, was returning from the grocery store. It was about 5:30 p.m.

“My wife asked me if I had heard from Chels. I said, ‘No, I figured you had.’ Right then, we looked at each other and had a panic.”

Chelsea is the kind of daughter who always checks in, her father said. If she was going to be late, she would let them know.

“We quickly called a few of her friends and asked if they had heard from Chelsea because we hadn’t,” King said. The friends hadn’t heard from her.

“We then had a mom share with us how to do the AT&T reverse autophone, which I’d never heard of before, and you can identify where a phone is based on the AT&T Web site.”

The Web site showed a general geographical location.

“I started searching,” he said. While driving from his northern Poway home, his wife called and told Brent she wanted to call 911 and he agreed.

“We just both knew something bad was happening,” he said.

Brent soon found Chelsea’s BMW parked behind the Rancho Bernardo Community Center just south of Lake Hodges. He looked inside and saw her belongings.

“I then looked behind me and I saw a running trail, and in the deepest part of my heart, I knew she was out there,” Brent said.

“So I took off down the trail. I ran down about a mile yelling out her name as long as I could, several times and in several directions. By this time it was already dusk and the Sheriff’s Department had already shown up. So I ran back,” he said.


Wow. He was THAT close. These are two parents that were just on it, on top of their game and their kids lives. They do everything right and something still happened. I am just so, so heartbroken for them right now. I'm so sick I can't sleep.
 
Escondido PD made an absolute mess out of the Stephanie Crowe case in 1998.
 
Does anyone now what area on Matinal the parents home is located? Maybe you can post a map that shows the proximity to the waterfall/Poblato trailhead?

Praying desperately that she is alive.
 
Escondido PD made an absolute mess out of the Stephanie Crowe case in 1998.

Yeah, Escondido's made a mess of a lot of things. Those few miles down the road that land you either into Poway or San Diego in the RB area make a huge difference as to how things are typically handled.

Whether or not he even winds up tied to Amber's disappearance, there are enough similarities that once things calm down a bit with Chelsea's case, the outrage is going to be noteworthy I suspect.

Escondido folks will be furious the response wasn't the same in Amber's case.

RB folks will be furious that he wasn't investigated properly during Amber's case when we know he was an identified RSO on many websites, and wasn't investigated thoroughly enough 13 months ago, potentially avoiding this.

And in both cases that makes Escondido look horrible.
 
Model child. Model parents. Not model-model, just unusually outstanding type people. This just sucks.

And I just want to thank a lot of you for doing so much quick research to help keep us all informed and travelbugs excellant maps. Just, wow. I would insert a smiley face here but I just cant...too upset over this whole thing.
 
Right -- there's a big difference, though, between someone "being a suspect" (as that about.com link said above) and "looking into the possibility" of someone being a suspect (as stated below). The police are (I think wisely) being careful with wording -- they don't know if anything is connected, either.

Prayers for everyone all around.

He said investigators also were looking into the
possibility of a connection between Gardner and Amber Dubois, who disappeared while walking to Escondido High School on Feb. 13, 2009. Amber was 14 at the time.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/...e-man-arrested-poway-teens-disappearan/?imw=Y
 
Does anyone now what area on Matinal the parents home is located? Maybe you can post a map that shows the proximity to the waterfall/Poblato trailhead?

Praying desperately that she is alive.

I think right now we need to not say specific streets, which is why I was limiting it to the duplex/townhome things that ::line:: Matinal and West Bernardo areas.

If I see photos of the front of one published on a site I'll do a map then, but right now I'm afraid that's probably walking a line we shouldn't do yet...but I'm guessing we'll have the address public shortly anyway.

Suffice it to say, the area would make it easy for him to walk the neighborhood to the trail head and it not at all arouse suspicion.

Also, people do, at times, part at that Poblado trail access area along the street where it curves there, so he could have done something to her earlier in the day, hidden her somewhere, and come back later and removed her - while the search would just be getting started over on the far side of the park.
 
Did the WS poster who saw the suspect walking with a garbage bag, report it??
 
Did the WS poster who saw the suspect walking with a garbage bag, report it??

I believe she said that was a week or so ago and that once she saw a more current picture to see his hair length she would if it were like it was when she saw him. But honestly I've read so much, I might have mixed two stories up, so I'm only 90% sure that was what she said.
 
So heartbreaking. What an exquisitely beautiful young lady. And all my mind can say over and over is..............WHY?!
 
More details about how things unraveled and the search came to be on Thursday:

King said late Thursday that he came home from the gym about the same time his wife, Kelly, was returning from the grocery store. It was about 5:30 p.m.

“My wife asked me if I had heard from Chels. I said, ‘No, I figured you had.’ Right then, we looked at each other and had a panic.”

Chelsea is the kind of daughter who always checks in, her father said. If she was going to be late, she would let them know.

“We quickly called a few of her friends and asked if they had heard from Chelsea because we hadn’t,” King said. The friends hadn’t heard from her.

“We then had a mom share with us how to do the AT&T reverse autophone, which I’d never heard of before, and you can identify where a phone is based on the AT&T Web site.”

The Web site showed a general geographical location.

“I started searching,” he said. While driving from his northern Poway home, his wife called and told Brent she wanted to call 911 and he agreed.

“We just both knew something bad was happening,” he said.

Brent soon found Chelsea’s BMW parked behind the Rancho Bernardo Community Center just south of Lake Hodges. He looked inside and saw her belongings.

“I then looked behind me and I saw a running trail, and in the deepest part of my heart, I knew she was out there,” Brent said.

“So I took off down the trail. I ran down about a mile yelling out her name as long as I could, several times and in several directions. By this time it was already dusk and the Sheriff’s Department had already shown up. So I ran back,” he said.

What wonderful loving parents...they did everything they could.
 
Suffice it to say, the area would make it easy for him to walk the neighborhood to the trail head and it not at all arouse suspicion.

Also, people do, at times, part at that Poblado trail access area along the street where it curves there, so he could have done something to her earlier in the day, hidden her somewhere, and come back later and removed her - while the search would just be getting started over on the far side of the park.

Sorry I used to live in Westwood and I am trying to figure this out in my head. Honestly, I just still can't believe it! Even if what you suggest is a possibility that means he would have had to transport her all the way from back behind the houses to Poblado which has to be at the very least a quarter to a half mile, not to mention in BROAD DAYLIGHT when all the kids from the elementary school are getting out. This person was a ghost, and poor Chelsea, just needed one person to see.
 
In the Amber Dubois case there are several witnesses that saw Amber walking beside a male - do you think those witnesses would be able to identify him? Or did he ever own or use a red truck?

He's an official suspect in not one, but two possible murders. Surprising how confident LE sounds for something like this to get out to the news, and the FBI was involved.

Woe to John Albert Gardner III. This arrest has turned huge already.
 
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