Still Missing CA - Classic (Orson West, 3) & Cincere (Orrin West, 4) Calif. City, *parents charged* 21 Dec 2020 #7

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Morning Testimony, Part 1
DAY EIGHT - April 14, 2023
https://twitter.com/KGETnews

The trial of Trezell and Jacqueline West is back in session. It will only be in session until noon today. Paul Thomas has been called to testify and will do so via Zoom. #WestsTrial

Prosecutor Eric Smith is questioning Thomas, who is a special agent for Secret Service. #WestsTrial

The Wests are charged with murder and other crimes in the deaths of Orrin, 4, and Orson, 3, two of their adopted children. Their bodies have not been found. The Wests have pleaded not guilty. #WestsTrial

Thomas works on digital evidence extraction. He's explaining tools used for the extraction, how to bypass codes and get info from phones. #WestsTrial

Thomas testified he's not always able to bypass pins or passwords on cellphones. They can use "brute force" by attempting to use every password or pin they have available to try to unlock the phone. #WestsTrial

Thomas said he received two LG phones from Bakersfield Police Department in this case. #WestsTrial

The first phone, "item 1," had a pattern passcode on it, he said. Item 2 had a pin lock. #WestsTrial

The phones were taken to the lab where Thomas photographed them and used tools to get an extraction. He said they got a limited amount of data from each device. #WestsTrial

Thomas said it depends on the device, and for these models that's the best they could get. #WestsTrial

The data extracted was processed through software and a report generated for an investigator to go through, Thomas said. #WestsTrial

Thomas said he did identify email accounts for each phone. One email appears to have belonged to Jacqueline West, the other Trezell. #WestsTrial

The extractions were given to BPD for review, Thomas said. Smith ended his questioning. #WestsTrial

Under cross-examination from Alekxia Torres Stallings, Jacqueline West's lead attorney, Thomas said it appears he had the pin code for item 2. #WestsTrial

He said they weren't able to unlock item 1, but the pin unlocked item 2. Torres Stallings asked if he was aware the pattern password for item 1 was provided to law enforcement at an earlier time. Judge Charles Brehmer sustained an objection from Smith. #WestsTrial

The objection was for lack of foundation. Torres Stallings ended her questioning and Victor Nasser, an attorney for Trezell West, is now cross-examining Thomas. #WestsTrial

Thomas said this was the best extraction that could have been done at the time on the 2 phones. He said they're always getting new, improved technology that could potentially help them get more information. Thomas has been excused. #WestsTrial
 
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Morning Testimony, Part 2
DAY EIGHT - April 14, 2023
https://twitter.com/KGETnews

The next witness will also testify via Zoom. #WestsTrial

Scott Medlin has been called to testify. He's employed with the FBI, has been since 2007. He's a digital forensic examiner. #WestsTrial

On Dec. 28, 2020, Medlin received a number of items from an FBI agent in Bakersfield. #WestsTrial

Medlin received a thumb drive, 6 laptops, hard drive, Samsung Galaxy Note cellphone, 2 Amazon brand Tablets, a bag of 8 thumb drives, 3 micro sd cards, an LG phone, another LG phone. #WestsTrial

Medlin testified a number of tools were used to extract data from the devices. #WestsTrial

He's going over the tools used. #WestsTrial

Medlin was not able to extract data from the Samsung phone. The phone did not respond, screen was damaged, could not get it to boot up. #WestsTrial

He was not able to extract data from one of the LG phones. It was locked with a pin code, Medlin said. #WestsTrial

The other LG phone was also locked with a pin and he was not able to extract data from it. Medlin corrected himself after being question by Smith and said one of the phones was locked with a pattern. #WestsTrial

He was not able to extract data from a hard disk drive, Medlin said. He got data from 2 of the 3 micro sd cards, he said. #WestsTrial

Medlin was able to extract data from a thumb drive and from 8 usb devices. #WestsTrial

He got data from multiple laptops, Medlin said. #WestsTrial

Smith ended his questioning and Torres Stallings has begun cross-examination. #WestsTrial

Medlin was first contacted for this case on Dec. 24, 2020. He began examining devices four days later. #WestsTrial

He said on Dec. 28, 2020, he was told the evidence was ready to be picked up and examined. He's not sure what happened in the intervening days. #WestsTrial

Medlin testified he was later told to stop working on the items and doesn't know why. Torres Stallings finished and Timothy Hennessy, lead attorney for Trezell West, has begun cross-examination. #WestsTrial

Medlin confirmed one of the LG phones was locked with a pattern. Hennessy asked if there were ways to still get into it but he just didn't have time. Medlin said he didn't get around to doing that before he was told to stop working on the devices. #WestsTrial

Medlin has been excused. #WestsTrial
 
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Morning Testimony, Part 3
DAY EIGHT - April 14, 2023
https://twitter.com/KGETnews

BPD Detective Antonio Orozco has been called to the stand. He's testifying in-person, Zoom testimony is over for now. #WestsTrial

Orozco said he was asked to download footage from a surveillance camera affixed to the northwest corner of the Bakersfield Police Department. It faces southwest, covering H Street south of Truxtun Avenue and a portion of the Strata Credit Union parking lot. #WestsTrial

He got footage from Dec. 19, 2020, from the afternoon. Smith is moving the footage into evidence. #WestsTrial

An image from that camera is being displayed in court and Orozco is pointing out the credit union, the department, and H Street. #WestsTrial

Smith said there is an issue with playing the video and asked that it be played at a later time. He finished questioning and Orozco has been excused. #WestsTrial
 
Morning Testimony, Part 4
DAY EIGHT - April 14, 2023
https://twitter.com/KGETnews

Phillip West has been called to the stand. He is the father of Trezell West. #WestsTrial

Phillip West said Trezell did a lot of special work after becoming an adult. Carpet, tile, landscaping. He confirmed Trezell worked at loss prevention at a mall. #WestsTrial

In 2020 Phillip West lived on Potomac Avenue with his wife and Josiah West, his other son. #WestsTrial

Smith asked where Trezell and Jacqueline lived after they married. Phillip West said he can't remember. But in 2020 they lived at the Casa Loma Apartments on Lotus Lane. #WestsTrial

When asked to name the Wests' biological children, Phillip Wet did so then said, "Don't do this to me," his voice breaking. Judge Brehmer told him to take a minute if he needs to. #WestsTrial

Phillip West took a sip of water and resumed testifying. He wiped his face with a tissue. He said in March 2020 he would see Trezell, Jacqueline and the children every other week or so. #WestsTrial

Phillip West said his wife told him Trezell had bought a home in California City. #WestsTrial

He said he didn't watch any of the Wests' children while they were moving. He said he thinks they did the move in one day. #WestsTrial

Phillip West said he never visited after they moved to California City. He said he was making plans to visit, wanted them to get everything situated. #WestsTrial

Phillip West said they're always together on Christmas. On Dec. 19, 2020, he said, all of the children except Orrin and Orson were dropped off at his home. #WestsTrial

He first found out Orrin and Oron were reported missing when an officer came from Cal City. Phillp West said he was present when CPS came to his home. #WestsTrial

Phillip West said he can't remember for sure what happened but believes a social worker spoke to the boys. He said they were taken from the home. He was provided visitations. #WestsTrial

Phillip West said the visitations happened in Shafter at a facility. #WestsTrial

He said they'd sometimes spend 3 hours with the children. A liaison would be present. "She wouldn't disturb us," Phillip West said. #WestsTrial

Sometime Trezell and Jacqueline were also there, Phillip West said. #WestsTrial

The visitations happened about four months or so, Phillip West said. #WestsTrial

Phillip West said he recalls telling officers the last time everyone was together was July 4, 2020. #WestsTrial

After the Wests moved to Cal City, Phillip West never saw Orrin or Orson, according to his testimony. #WestsTrial

Asked about his cane shop, Phillip West said he's a craftsman and makes canes out of wood. He held up his own cane for everyone to see. Judge Brehmer said, "That's a nice looking cane," and held it. #WestsTrial

Smith ended his questioning after showing Phillip West a photo of a cane made from two pieces of wood duct-taped together. Phillip West said that's not a cane he made. #WestsTrial
 
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Morning Testimony, Part 5
DAY EIGHT - April 14, 2023
https://twitter.com/KGETnews

Hennessy has begun cross-examination. Phillip West said he was concerned when covid began because of his age and his wife has asthma. He agreed that's why the kids would often stay in the van when Trezell or Jacqueline made a quick stop. #WestsTrial

"I know how many got out of the car and came into my house," Phillip West said when asked if sometimes he thought there were 4 children there instead of 6, and vice versa. #WestsTrial

Phillip West said he doesn't recall him getting "less close" with Trezell after Trezell got married. He said he gave them space because they were married, but they weren't less close. #WestsTrial

"I raised them to be fathers," Phillip West said of his sons. "I had no father. I know what it takes." #WestsTrial

Phillip West said Trezell is creative like him, thinks he got his creativity from him. #WestsTrial

On the morning when the Cal City police officer arrived Phillip West said he remembers an officer describing the Cal City house as a "compound." #WestsTrial

"I believe I was in denial," Phillip West said when he heard the allegations. He said he's still "mind-boggled." It doesn't reflect the Trezell he raised or knew, he said in response to Hennessy's questions. #WestsTrial

Phillip West has been excused. #WestsTrial

Court is in recess for 15 minutes. #WestsTrial
 
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Morning Testimony, Part 6
DAY EIGHT - April 14, 2023
https://twitter.com/KGETnews

Detective John Ryan is back on the stand as the trial resumes. Prosecutor Eric Smith is playing another clip of a second interview conducted with Jacqueline West a day after Orrin and Orson were reported missing. #WestsTrial

An officer is speaking quietly to Jacqueline West during the interview, much of which was played yesterday. #WestsTrial

The officer tells her she's not going to get her other children back, and she says she and Trezell had nothing to do with the boys' disappearance. #WestsTrial

The officer tells her Trezell's parents and brother broke down and were "losing it" when told the boys were missing. He tells her to give him something. Jacqueline West says she left them in the backyard. #WestsTrial

Jacqueline West makes a comment about areas that look like graves in the backyard. Ryan takes over the investigation and asks if they're buried there and she says, "I didn't bury them there." #WestsTrial

The yard was later dug up by the FBI and nothing was found. #WestsTrial

Jacqueline West continues to say she doesn't know what happened as Ryan tells her this case is going to go national then worldwide and everyone will know her and husband's names. #WestsTrial

Ryan asks if she wants the whole world to think she's a bad person and a terrible mom. Jacqueline says people think that already. The detective keeps telling she's a good person and that something bad happened or she's covering for her husband. #WestsTrial

"I have no idea where they are, where they could be," Jacqueline West says. Ryan asks if she killed the boys. No, she says. Did her husband. No, she says. #WestsTrial

Ryan continues to tell her her story doesn't add up. The video surveillance captured nothing, he says. "I think they're inside somewhere," Jacqueline says. Ryan asks who would take them. She says it could be anyone. #WestsTrial

Ryan tells her he he thinks the boys have been missing so long that she's past the remorse, "the crying stage." He says someone's going to find out, no one can cover their tracks that well. #WestsTrial

Ryan notes she's had her new phone over a month and there are no photos of the boys on it. He says they're working backward to find out the last time anyone saw the boys. #WestsTrial

Jacqueline West says she got rid of her last phone because it was broken. She says she threw it in the trash, didn't save the sim card. She says she didn't need it. #WestsTrial

"If we find out foul play was involved this is going to go to court," Ryan says. He asks if she thinks any jury is going to believe her. He says they'll look at the evidence, how she was treated here and all the opportunities she had to tell the truth. #WestsTrial

She shakes her head when asked if something bad happened and she knows more than she's saying. #WestsTrial

"Well that's messed up right there," Jacqueline says when Ryan tells her she's going to lose everything: her children, her friends, family, house, everything. #WestsTrial

"You can't lie forever. Your stories don't match," Ryan tells Jacqueline. "There is no story," Jacqueline says. #WestsTrial

Ryan tells her she doesn't want this on her shoulders the rest of her life. He says he can tell something is bothering her. "There's nothing," she says. #WestsTrial

"There's nothing," Jacqueline says again after Ryan keeps pressing her. He says he did what he had to do. He asks if she wants her card, she nods her head and he says he'll get one then leaves the room. #WestsTrial

Trezell West enters the room and sits next to her. #WestsTrial
 
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Is there issues with the audio or just me? This audio hurts the ears.
 
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How long before JW flips on TW? So far she is ride or die putting her husband before here children. But I think once convicted she will see reality and confess to what happened so she gets a lesser sentence and out to eventually be with her children.
 
Morning Testimony, Part 7
DAY EIGHT - April 14, 2023
https://twitter.com/KGETnews

(Detective John Ryan is on the stand and Prosecutor Eric Smith is playing video of a second interview with Jacqueline West a day after the boys were reported missing.)

The video had issues playing at that point. Smith is trying to get it to play. #WestsTrial

Judge Brehmer said it will have to be fixed and the last few minutes of the recording will be played on Monday. #WestsTrial

Smith is questioning Ryan. #WestsTrial

Ryan said he contacted a resident on Aspen Avenue in Cal City to get surveillance footage. He asked to look at footage of a few days prior to when the boys were reported missing to see if they could see them in any footage. #WestsTrial

Ryan said they reviewed footage from Dec. 19, 2020. He said when the family left the home into the van only four juveniles and Trezell and Jacqueline entered the van. #WestsTrial

Ryan transported the footage to BPD and the crime analysis team. #WestsTrial

Ryan also went to an address on Rome Beauty Drive in Cal City. It had multiple cameras on it. He spoke to the homeowner and got permission to remove the DVR player and take it to headquarters for analysis. #WestsTrial

Ryan spent 6 or 7 days in Cal City for the investigation. #WestsTrial

Court has ended for the day. The trial will resume 9 a.m. Monday. #WestsTrial
 
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I laid in bed last night trying to think of what the defense will make up and use, here is my list.
Editted to add that I do not believe any of these are the cause of the boys disappearance and not being found.

1. Inadequate police investigation.
2. CPS issues.
3. Bio family.
4. Sexual Predators abduction.
5. Trafficking organizations.
 
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Phillip West sounds very credible to me, and appears to be genuinely upset about Orrin and Orson missing. He was not supportive of his son, Trezell. After this testimony, I think that the jury has a lot of information to work with.
 
So both boys not seen on security cameras in neighborhood nor gas station, no pictures on new phones and not seen by family. Not seen by the other 4 children. JW is still trying to say they were there somewhere in the van or in the home.
 
cuffem said:
I laid in bed last night trying to think of what the defense will make up and use, here is my list.
Editted to add that I do not believe any of these are the cause of the boys disappearance and not being found.

1. Inadequate police investigation.
2. CPS issues.
3. Bio family.
4. Sexual Predators abduction.
5. Trafficking organizations.
Click to expand...

I am waiting to see how the defense wrecks and discredits the children's testimonials.
 
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