Still Missing CA - Duke Flores, 6, front yard of his home, Apple Valley, 25 Apr 2019 *Mother and Aunt ARRESTED*

[sabepa]

I’m kind of thinking that one or both of the twins has already confessed. LE’s statement that they believe Duke was put in a statement is pretty bold and specific. The murder charges came swiftly. MOO

 

[Henry2326]

I don't feel like she's as innocent as she wants people to think. I don't understand why it took her 2+ weeks to sound the alarm. Something isn't adding up IMO.

I give her a pass....its incomprehensible to believe your child would kill your grandchild. I think she just went with it. For all we know, they might not have gotten along anyway. So she just didn't want to rock the boat. IMO...

 

[frisson]

I could see grandma getting the , "He's asleep" thing once or twice; but after two weeks I'd be over there.

 

[PommyMommy]

I’m kind of thinking that one or both of the twins has already confessed. LE’s statement that they believe Duke was put in a statement is pretty bold and specific. The murder charges came swiftly. MOO

Possible, but I also wonder if there were neighbors with cameras... MOO

 

[Rhenish]

I’m kind of thinking that one or both of the twins has already confessed. LE’s statement that they believe Duke was put in a statement is pretty bold and specific. The murder charges came swiftly. MOO

I believe one or both of the twins is talking, but "talking in circles" while neither is confessing, hard to guess which. Someone mentioned Grandma a few posts back, I am also of the mindset that she possibly has more knowledge regardless of the fact she FINALLY reported Duke missing. I really do not trust Grandma because I really know nothing of her. It is quite likely that Grandma is in a tough position and is also protecting her daughters and is not being forthright, I would not be at all surprised to learn that several other family members also have knowledge of what transpired regarding Duke's missing status...IMO and speculation.

 

[PommyMommy]

Leticia Juarez on Twitter
Investigators continue to search a #Victorville landfill for 6/yo Duke Flores. This afternoon his mother and aunt were charged with his murder.

3:31 PM - 29 Apr 2019

 

[Henry2326]

Detectives were led to the landfill Monday after getting a tip that Duke was placed in a dumpster, officials said in a news release.

Searchers Comb Victorville Landfill for Body of Missing Boy as Mother and Aunt Charged

 

[la2cabo]

I can't speak for (or won't try to at least) her culpability. I believe the MSM links provided earlier said that she had been calling and asking to speak with the child for some time and that the mother kept saying he was asleep.

Here's some questions ---
1)Duke, his mom and his aunt did not live with the grandmother, correct?
2)How far distance-wise was the grandmother's house from where Duke resided? If she had been calling for a week and kept getting that "he's asleep" excuse, but she lived right around the block then there's certainly no excuse whatsoever for her not walking over there to try and get an idea as to what the heck was going on. I'm just not ready to cast her in a villain light with the information made available to this point.

You read my mind. I guess I should've spelled it out the way you did. As far as I know Grandma did not live with them.

 

[la2cabo]

Detectives were led to the landfill Monday after getting a tip that Duke was placed in a dumpster, officials said in a news release.

Searchers Comb Victorville Landfill for Body of Missing Boy as Mother and Aunt Charged

Hmmm, I wonder who gave them a tip?

 

[katydid23]

I understand that. Firstly, I hadn't read far enough into the thread to see the outcome. Secondly, I didn't think it was that outlandish for a child to be in his front yard at 10pm at night and that was the point I was making. It had nothing to do with the specifics of this case.

I gotcha.

I still think 10 pm on a school night for a 6 yr old is pretty late. Especially to be outside ALONE at 10 pm , being only 6 yrs old. JMO

 

[Henry2326]

I gotcha.

I still think 10 pm on a school night for a 6 yr old is pretty late. Especially to be outside ALONE at 10 pm , being only 6 yrs old. JMO

My friend's daughter let her 3 year old stay up until 11...then complained because he was so whiny....omg

 

[PommyMommy]

Duke Flores case: Mother, aunt charged in Apple Valley boy's murder as detectives search landfill
[...]

On Monday, the San Bernardino County District Attorney's Office announced it had filed a single count of murder against each of the sisters. Their arraignment is expected Tuesday in Victorville Superior Court.

[...]

 

[kath4557]

You read my mind. I guess I should've spelled it out the way you did. As far as I know Grandma did not live with them.

I don't feel Grandma is the sharpest tool in the shed... but no matter how bad I wanted to believe my kid, i would have immediately insisted on taking a trip to the *mental hospital* to see my grandson. And if no one could provide me proof of his whereabouts, I'd be calling the police pronto! NOT a week or two later!

 

[Knox]

The McStay family was buried near the Victorville landfill.

I'm the Site Manager at a landfill in California. The good thing is they have narrowed it down to a pretty small search area. Sounds like they know which truck and what day the waste was delivered. If sweet little Duke is there, they will find him. Are any reporters on Twitter at the Landfill entrance?
Landfill Locations and Hours

 

[sabepa]

The McStay family was buried near the Victorville landfill.

I'm the Site Manager at a landfill in California. The good thing is they have narrowed it down to a pretty small search area. Sounds like they know which truck and what day the waste was delivered. If sweet little Duke is there, they will find him. Are any reporters on Twitter at the Landfill entrance?

Oh it would hurt to be that truck driver.

 

[PommyMommy]

San Bernardino County Sheriff on Twitter
The area being search is approximately 70 feet x 70 feet x 10 feet in depth, approximately 600 tons of material. The search for Duke Flores will resume in the morning, Tuesday, April 30th.
6:05 PM - 29 Apr 2019

San Bernardino County Sheriff on Twitter
Search efforts at the Victorville landfill have been suspended for the day. Homicide Detectives, 36 Sheriff’s Department volunteers, 3 canines, and 17 additional Sheriff’s Department personnel have been searching with the assistance of landfill personnel.
6:05 PM - 29 Apr 2019

 

[PommyMommy]

Tomorrow's court appearance has been moved to 8:30 a.m.

https://www.vvng.com/search-for-duk...da-files-murder-charges-against-twin-sisters/
[...]

The DA’s Office reviewed the case involving the Apple Valley twins and said, “As a result of the investigation, the District Attorney’s Office filed 1 count of PC 187(a); Murder, each against Jackee Contreras and Jennifer Contreras.”

According to the criminal complaint, a felony was committed by Jackee Raquel and Jennifer Contreras, who did unlawfully, and with malice aforethought murder Duke, a human being.

[...]

The grandmother spoke with news reporters and said she believed Duke may have smothered his aunt Jennifer’s 9-month-old child, and as a result, someone may have gone too far with the discipline.

Both women were arrested for murder and are being held without bail. They will be arraigned in department V-10 by the Honorable Judge Rogan, 8:30 a.m., in a Victorville courtroom on April 30th.

Sheriff’s Spokeswoman Jodi Miller told Victor Valley News two children were removed from the home by CFS on Friday night. “I don’t know if they are still in custody of CFS or not,” stated Miller.

[...]

 

[katydid23]

If a 6 yr old dies accidentally, do you then throw him in a dumpster and pretend everything is ok?

 

[Rhenish]

Grandma Makes Threats as Daughters are Suspected of Murdering & Tossing Small Boy in Dumpster | 24/7 Headline News
Heartbroken the community has search, prayed, and left the porch light on, in hopes that 6-year-old Duke Flores would be found alive. Duke was reported missing on the night of Thursday, April 25, 2019. Lydia Gutierrez, the mother of Duke’s mother, 29-year-old Jackee Contreras.

When deputies arrived at the Apple Valley home which is shared by Jackee Contreras and her twin sister, Jennifer Contreras, both sisters gave numerous stories. Sheriff’s officials also said the following day that they had to investigate more to determine the timeline of when Duke was last seen.

Jackee was arrested for Cruelty to Child once deputies responded, but after questioning, she was booked for Murder. Jennifer was also questioned and subsequently booked for murder. On Monday, April 29, 2019, the San Bernardino District Attorney’s office filed formal murder charges on both Jackee and Jennifer, Duke’s mother and aunt...

...........more at link

 

[Rosiebones]

When a six year old child is in a home with two adults, it is hard for me to think of a single situation in which his death is not in part due to their actions or inaction. They are responsible for supervision to keep him and the other children safe. Even if he acted out against another child, it doesn't excuse the adults. To follow this with trying to conceal his death with putting him in a dumpster doesn't look like a panic reaction to me, it looks like trying not to get caught.

 

[Jim_M]

When a six year old child is in a home with two adults, it is hard for me to think of a single situation in which his death is not in part due to their actions or inaction. They are responsible for supervision to keep him and the other children safe. Even if he acted out against another child, it doesn't excuse the adults. To follow this with trying to conceal his death with putting him in a dumpster doesn't look like a panic reaction to me, it looks like trying not to get caught.

And that sudden need to react to reality. She just killed her son. Was it the anger at what he may have done? Was it planned out? Or did it actually happen, in the Heat of the Moment? If this was not a planned out murder, would panic break in, and make them truly realize, we just killed your son?!

I don't mean to muddy any waters. We all realize that they killed this little boy. His life on this world, the only life he ever had, was cruelly taken away from him.

Yeah, they will hopefully spend the rest of their lives in prison. I hope always reminded about what they have done. To a helpless six (6) year old boy. And they might want to keep them on suicide watch. Or perhaps not?