CA - Elliot Rodger kills 6, injures 13 in Isla Vista, Near UC Santa Barbara, #1

[bettybaby00]

I am still wondering if these roomates signed n agreement together from knowing each other prior to or if they were "roommate matched" by the complex where they were living?

There was obvious discord going on between them but no action on the complex part apparently. My question is how complicit the complex is as to the outcome in that they had due warning there were problems?

Also, IIRC he stated in his document that his parents paid $900 for his rent. But the complex website said that was the total rent for a 2 BRM apartment. Was he subletting to these guys and pocketing the money?

JMO's.

In college these kids are considered adults. End of story. The only thing that gets communicated to parents is what the kids tell them. Dropping classes, failing classes etc., is not communicated.

The only time a "landlord" is going to communicate with parents is if their kid is violent--which he showed no previous signs of--or if rent isn't paid, and the parents co-signed the lease. In an off campus college living situation, it is possible the "rent" was paid upfront, much like housing costs for on campus dorm rooms.

Also, some schools have "guaranteed housing", meaning they will ensure you have some sort of housing. Some colleges only ensure this the 1st year.

The roommates were likely on their own so to speak, unless they tried to get their parents involved, and get them a new living situation. Given that they were guys, there was probably less rather than more communication between them and their parents.

 

[LolaMoon08]

I am still wondering if these roomates signed n agreement together from knowing each other prior to or if they were "roommate matched" by the complex where they were living?

There was obvious discord going on between them but no action on the complex part apparently. My question is how complicit the complex is as to the outcome in that they had due warning there were problems?

JMO's.

From my understanding, they are just randomly put into rooms based on availability. It's a lot like dorm living. You don't know who your roommates are going to be and they don't get to choose.

There was obvious discord between ER and every single roommate he had prior to these two victims (and their friend). If there was going to be any blame on the complex it would be putting anyone in a room with ER. I think that maybe ER's family, their money, and influence may have played a part in them turning a blind eye to the problems HE created.

ETA: Let us also not forget how easily ER was able to turn himself into the victim in every single situation.

 

[x_files]

For sure!
I am up to age 13, and it is just irritating me.
I don't know that any amount of mental health help would ever have done it for this kid. He seemed to have been born to be what he was, and sometimes there is no changing that.

(My son is of a similar age. He was just telling me about some of ER's posts on a website mentioned earlier (NOT PUAHate!). ER was ripped hard for his attitude there.
I wonder if he would have been different if born in an age without internet?
Nah, I think he would have been a "Zodiac" type killer. ER reminds me of Zodiacs messages a bit. He hated the world and especially pretty woman and those coupled up also, IIRC)

I immediately thought of the Zodiac Killer, he attacked couples. I could see him consumed with envy and hate. Was any of the suspects a single man?

 

[gngr~snap]

Based on the roommate matching profile form each student completes, we will do our best to match your student with the best suited roommates.

http://capriiv.com/parents

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[LolaMoon08]

Ugh. There are people...lots of them...on his blog calling ER a hero or saying they feel sorry for HIM and how HE was abused and misunderstood his whole life.

Feeling scared for humanity right now.

Don't even pay attention to them. These types of crimes brings out all types. Hopefully LE is paying close attention though.

 

[LolaMoon08]

Hell, per his manifesto there was discord between ER and every other human being with whom he had contact - and he kept score.

Every friend I had when I was younger I fought with at some point, being a boy it was often physical. But then it was over, and we were friends and I still am 45+ years later in some cases.

Reminds me of one of those despair.com posters - "The only constant in all your failed relationships is you" or something like that.

Amen!!

 

[gngr~snap]

Capri @ Isla Vista: http://youtu.be/G5HZXRRQwAU

Here are some of the apartments interiors...

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[Isabelle]

I feel so bad for this girl~ Here is a statement from her father


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...omen-mean-cruel-heartless-creatures-says.html

Agree, feeling so bad for this girl. Hopefully she understands how completely delusional ER was.

 

[Dmacky]

Ugh. There are people...lots of them...on his blog calling ER a hero or saying they feel sorry for HIM and how HE was abused and misunderstood his whole life.

Feeling scared for humanity right now.

Hmm If it had been one of THEIR sister's, brother's, or cousins that ER murdered, I just wonder how much of a hero would he be then?
Stupid, ignorant kids. Big and tough behind their anonymous computers :evil:

PS ~ where is his blog?

 

[Isabelle]

Is Christopher Martinez' father the only parent of a deceased student that the media has interviewed? Mr. Martinez is a broken man; my heart hurts for him.

 

[Flutterby80]

Hmm If it had been one of THEIR sister's, brother's, or cousins that ER murdered, I just wonder how much of a hero would he be then?
Stupid, ignorant kids. Big and tough behind their anonymous computers :evil:

PS ~ where is his blog?

Salem made a media thread. It's the blogspot from the media thread.

http://elliotrodger.blogspot.com/2014/04/lonely-in-santa-barbara.html#comment-form

 

[gngr~snap]

"This can include your own private parking space in the gated garage for $75 extra per month which will make it $860."

http://ucsb.uloop.com/housing/view.php/38739836/SINGLE-AVAILABLE-for-july-and-august

There are 3 people renting one apartment. With a parking space she pays $860.
She said she had a single,so she doesn't share her room. Her rent is probably higher than tenants that share a room.
Still total per unit is around $2000.
That ain't cheap.


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[jjenny]

Is Christopher Martinez' father the only parent of a deceased student that the media has interviewed? Mr. Martinez is a broken man; my heart hurts for him.

No, there have been interviews with other parents.

 

[Dmacky]

Is Christopher Martinez' father the only parent of a deceased student that the media has interviewed? Mr. Martinez is a broken man; my heart hurts for him.

One of his roommates parents have a short interview here, close to the bottom of the page...WARNING ~ tearjerker

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...-rodger-wanted-move-parents-article-1.1806049

 

[gngr~snap]

“She was 10 years old,” the dad said. ‘He was two years older than her. He was in my son’s class. She was in the seventh grade and he was in eighth grade … Can you imagine a 10-year-old kid bullying a 12-year-old?

http://m.nydailynews.com/news/natio...med-elliot-rodger-manifesto-article-1.1805983

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[CHERIE.T]

Ugh. There are people...lots of them...on his blog calling ER a hero or saying they feel sorry for HIM and how HE was abused and misunderstood his whole life.

Feeling scared for humanity right now.

Hero??? No.

Mentally ill murderer, yes. imo

 

[x_files]

He all sprayed girls with orange juice from a squirt gun. Jeez... :-S

Neither reports would be taken as serious assaults but as college pranks, unfortunately.

 

[CHERIE.T]

“She was 10 years old,” the dad said. ‘He was two years older than her. He was in my son’s class. She was in the seventh grade and he was in eighth grade … Can you imagine a 10-year-old kid bullying a 12-year-old?

http://m.nydailynews.com/news/natio...med-elliot-rodger-manifesto-article-1.1805983

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I'm not understanding this..sorry..who is 'he' referring too.
who is 'she' referring too.

 

[gngr~snap]

Im not understanding this..sorry..who is he referring too.
who is she referring too.

They didn't give her name in the article. ER named her in the manifesto.

" The “pretty blonde girl” who Santa Barbara murderer Elliot Rodger blamed for his violent misogyny is devastated and living in fear, her father told the Daily News Monday."
http://m.nydailynews.com/news/natio...med-elliot-rodger-manifesto-article-1.1805983

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[jjenny]

Neither reports would be taken as serious assaults but as college pranks, unfortunately.

He also tried to push women of the ledge. Sounds to me like that should have considered more seriously. He wasn't even charged with anything for that incident.