CA CA - Ember Graham, 7 mos, Happy Valley, 2 July 2015 - #2

[debirlfan]

One of the things he took from his mother was a cell phone, correct? But shortly thereafter the phone was turned off (or battery removed?) so that it couldn't be traced? Assuming this is accurate, it certainly sounds as if he intended to quickly call someone in particular. I would assume that LE could determine who he called, unless it was a burner phone. Of course, if he did call someone (probable drug contact?) they might have told him the phone would be traced and to shut it off.

 

[GigTu]

I have always thought that this was no "accident". The latest development indicates even more so that this was likely a calculated murder.

I am more inclined to think he tried to shut up a crying baby that wouldn't let hi sleep, and in the heat of the moment didn't take his hand off her mouth in time, or something. Equally evil, equally a murder, but not necessarily planned/calculated. I don't know if I want to use the word accidental either, but certainly it would land more in that realm if we're playing semantics.

How much water was left in the swamp cooler? I bet he shut it off when he left in the night to dispose of Ember. They could pretty much narrow down some sort of timeline based on that, I would think.

Didn't the neighbors hear his truck leave in the night? Didn't they hear it return?

 

[Mountain]

That cinches it for me. He disposed of her, and they are going to find her. He knows it.

What happened to her, how I mean, is still a question. Is his wife still standing by him?

I am not sure if she is still standing by him. He is worried and something about the investigation spooked him. Whether it be the pacifier or the location of the search. What I find even stranger is that it has been 10 days, the child was reported missing and still no active amber alert has been issued. Thats pretty bizarre in itself.

 

[SCHMAE]

FWIW, Since the first thread, one of the first posts on the first page I would guess, it's been public knowledge that he manufactures the marijuana wax himself.

IMO there is no dealer, though there could very well be a DEAL in that hour.

ETA - it is part of why he was arrested before, and he has admitted to it. It's always been public KNOWLEDGE, not speculation, that yes he's a manufacturer. Give me a second to get links.

But if he's the manufacturer, would that mean that there are buyers ?

 

[MsMarple]

My guess is they showed the pacifier to the mom as a way to "rule it in" or "rule it out" for DNA testing. Pacifiers are all over the place - they wouldn't want to go through the expense if the mom said no, that's not one of her pacifiers. I think we all know what our baby's pacifiers looked like, and if we see a strange pacifier we'll recognize right away that it doesn't belong to our baby.

Agreed. And call it tunnel vision but the only way I see MG's decision to run is that he realized that LE was in the right area and if/when they located Ember they'd be knocking on his door.

Of all possible scenarios that one fits the best. At the vigil he looked like he was ready to pop. LE had discontinued the search but the local community vowed to keep going. MG's family and supporters were heavily criticizing LE for not being thorough enough and LE responded by impounding his truck. He knew that the investigation would go on until Ember was found.

LE naming him a POI and releasing details of the interview put tremendous pressure on him. He chose to dummy up and hope that LE would never find Ember. Then LE got a new lead that took them to the area by Gas Point Road and finally to Ono. IMO that's when he knew things were about to fall apart.

LE finding a pacifier only "similar" to one Ember had caused him to run. Why? Because he's guilty. He didn't steal the cash and the gun in order to hunt down some fantasy kidnapper in Ono, he freaked because he knew the pacifier was Ember's.

http://www.redding.com/news/local-news/vigil-message-keep-looking-for-infant_84874613

 

[courtneyb]

Agreed. And call it tunnel vision but the only way I see MG's decision to run is that he realized that LE was in the right area and if/when they located Ember they'd be knocking on his door.

Of all possible scenatios that one fits the best. At the vigil he looked like he was ready to pop. LE had discontinued the search but the local community vowed to keep going. MG's family and supporters were heavily criticizing LE for not being thorough enough and LE responded by impounding his truck. He knew that the investigation would go on until Ember was found.

LE naming him a POI and releasing details of the interview put tremendous pressure on him. He chose to dummy up and hope that LE would never find Ember. Then LE got a new lead that took them to the area by Gas Point Road and finally to Ono. IMO that's when he knew things were about to fall apart.

LE finding a pacifier only "similar" to one Ember had caused him to run. Why? Because he's guilty. He didn't steal the cash and the gun in order to hunt down some fantasy kidnapper in Ono, he freaked because he knew the pacifier was Ember's.

http://www.redding.com/news/local-news/vigil-message-keep-looking-for-infant_84874613

MsMarple, sadly, I think you're right. I question whether or not Mom would have so quickly turned him in if she thought there was any chance he was going to rescue Ember based on the new info. I think she is terrified that her "baby" is going to hurt himself. Guess I just want so badly for Ember to still be alive.

 

[RANCH]

The fact that Matthew Graham has fled shows a "Consciousness of Guilt" that can be used against him if he is caught.

Flight, when unexplained, may indicate consciousness of guilt if the facts and the circumstances support it.

I think the facts and circumstances support it.

JMO

http://definitions.uslegal.com/c/consciousness-of-guilt/

 

[Mountain]

Agreed. And call it tunnel vision but the only way I see MG's decision to run is that he realized that LE was in the right area and if/when they located Ember they'd be knocking on his door.

Of all possible scenarios that one fits the best. At the vigil he looked like he was ready to pop. LE had discontinued the search but the local community vowed to keep going. MG's family and supporters were heavily criticizing LE for not being thorough enough and LE responded by impounding his truck. He knew that the investigation would go on until Ember was found.

LE naming him a POI and releasing details of the interview put tremendous pressure on him. He chose to dummy up and hope that LE would never find Ember. Then LE got a new lead that took them to the area by Gas Point Road and finally to Ono. IMO that's when he knew things were about to fall apart.

LE finding a pacifier only "similar" to one Ember had caused him to run. Why? Because he's guilty. He didn't steal the cash and the gun in order to hunt down some fantasy kidnapper in Ono, he freaked because he knew the pacifier was Ember's.

http://www.redding.com/news/local-news/vigil-message-keep-looking-for-infant_84874613

I think you are right on Ms. Marple....very sad .

 

[blefuscu]

You can't overdose and die from cannabanoids. You would have to take 40,000 times the normal amount to die. And cannabanoids don't act on the same receptors that depress breathing etc. So I don't think the baby would die from being given cannabis, whether eaten, breathing in smoke or taking it via wax. She could have been killed by her epilepsy meds, that's far more likely. Or shaken baby syndrome, or suffocated. Much more likely than dying because of cannabis

 

[courtneyb]

You can't overdose and die from cannabanoids. You would have to take 40,000 times the normal amount to die. And cannabanoids don't act on the same receptors that depress breathing etc. So I don't think the baby would die from being given cannabis, whether eaten, breathing in smoke or taking it via wax. She could have been killed by her epilepsy meds, that's far more likely. Or shaken baby syndrome, or suffocated. Much more likely than dying because of cannabis

Or from being forgotten in a hot car.

 

[Mountaingazer]

But if he's the manufacturer, would that mean that there are buyers ?

Even as the manufacturer, he would have to buy large quantities of Marijuana to make the honey oil/ wax.

And just a note honey oil/wax is different from cannabis oil. Cannabis oil can be ingested for the effects to take place, honey oil/wax needs to be heated first. People put it in bongs and pipes or use a vaporizer generally.

 

[GGE]

I realized something while I was away from the forum earlier..

This quote:

"According to a Facebook post in the group “Find Baby Ember,” Ember’s mother is safe.

Detectives suspect Graham may have been in the downtown Redding area or near Caldwell Park, Benton Drive or the Sacramento River Trail, Bosenko said.

Law enforcement combed the area Saturday evening."


(source: http://www.redding.com/news/local-news/graham-on-the-lam-sheriff-says_71911643 )

Suggests to me that Matthew and Jamie are now at odds with one another, and the gun is feared to possibly be for him to use on her. IMO

It's as if they're saying "don't worry he's loose with a gun but Jamie is safe in an undisclosed location, so he cant' hurt her" JMO that's how I read into that.

 

[kshultz06082]

Ugh. My stomach is in knots. I have 3 threads open right now (this one, Gypsy Blanchard, and Noah Thomas) and I am having panic attacks thinking about what the parents in all 3 cases are alleged to have done to their children. I am taking my youngest out on a mommy/son date to see the new Minions movie in an hour and its killing me that so many children never had the opportunity to have the same experience. I am still holding out hope that baby Ember is out there alive somewhere, but nothing that has happened in the last 12 hours or so gives that impression.

Why does this keep happening???? There are so many options available if someone has a baby or child they do not want. How does killing them ever seem like the best one? Even if its for purely greedy reasons that a child is not wanted, one would think that the greedy parent would not prefer jail time to raising a child.

Sick sick sick!

 

[sunflowerchick]

You can't overdose and die from cannabanoids. You would have to take 40,000 times the normal amount to die. And cannabanoids don't act on the same receptors that depress breathing etc. So I don't think the baby would die from being given cannabis, whether eaten, breathing in smoke or taking it via wax. She could have been killed by her epilepsy meds, that's far more likely. Or shaken baby syndrome, or suffocated. Much more likely than dying because of cannabis

Thank you!!! :cheers: ITA and I think far too much emphasis is being placed on the "wax" but that hasn't been a popular opinion here and I am tired of defending myself.

I think what happened was probably much more sinister because it seems this fellow was ill-equipped to be a parent and likely didn't want the responsibility. Come on, stealing a gun, money and now being on the lam? This isn't the behavior of your typical "pothead".

 

[MsMarple]

I realized something while I was away from the forum earlier..

This quote:

"According to a Facebook post in the group “Find Baby Ember,” Ember’s mother is safe.

Detectives suspect Graham may have been in the downtown Redding area or near Caldwell Park, Benton Drive or the Sacramento River Trail, Bosenko said.

Law enforcement combed the area Saturday evening."


(source: http://www.redding.com/news/local-news/graham-on-the-lam-sheriff-says_71911643 )

Suggests to me that Matthew and Jamie are now at odds with one another, and the gun is feared to possibly be for him to use on her. IMO

It's as if they're saying "don't worry he's loose with a gun but Jamie is safe in an undisclosed location, so he cant' hurt her" JMO that's how I read into that.

It's kind of odd that the local news is just repeating what it read on a FB page; you'd think that one phone call to the Sheriff's Office could confirm or deny it.

But so far the Record Searchlight has been the best source for updates - all KRCR is doing is replaying the story from last night's 11 o'clock newscast and that was a replay from the 6:30 news. Maybe locals are getting live updates through regular broadcast but I wish they'd give us a little update on their website.

 

[debirlfan]

You can't overdose and die from cannabanoids. You would have to take 40,000 times the normal amount to die. And cannabanoids don't act on the same receptors that depress breathing etc. So I don't think the baby would die from being given cannabis, whether eaten, breathing in smoke or taking it via wax. She could have been killed by her epilepsy meds, that's far more likely. Or shaken baby syndrome, or suffocated. Much more likely than dying because of cannabis

Or, he could have dosed her with Benadryl to quiet her down - either gave her too much, or it reacted with her meds. He could have thought they'd find traces on the pacifier.

 

[sunflowerchick]

Does anyone know if they are searching more in the area the pacifier was found? IMO, sadly this is where Ember will be found. IMO trying to determine anything about the pacifier tied to him running is giving him far too much credit. He isn't smart enough, IMO, to weigh out DNA evidence or residue. He ran because he knows if they found the pacifier, they will find her and IMO he knows that because they were "tossed" in the same place. Hate thinking that way, but at least that means she can and will be found.

 

[2Hope4]

He's still loose????

 

[Rhyme & Reason]

Glad to hear he hasn't completely derailed the search for Ember

"A warrant was issued for Graham's arrest on a charge of being a felon in possession of a firearm and for a felony violation of a probation order.

Anyone with information on Graham's whereabouts is asked to call the SHASCOM dispatch center at 530-245-6540 or 911."

<snip>

"Meanwhile, a disturbance took place at Mercy Medical Center in Redding between members of the family at 5:20 p.m. Saturday, Bosenko said. He didn’t have any additional details. The gathering, which initial reports said Graham had been involved in, sent the hospital into lockdown, he said. But Matthew Graham was not there.

Authorities will continue looking for him, Bosenko said.

Graham is described as a white man, standing 6 feet and weighing 185 pounds. He was last seen wearing a camouflage baseball cap, a black, gray and white plaid button-up shirt with cutoff sleeves, possibly an olive green T-shirt with THX or Thanks to the braves written on it. He may be wearing black shoes, Bosenko said.

Redding residents should secure their homes, cars and keys, he said.

The search for evidence in Ono will continue Sunday, Bosenko said.

He asks anyone with surveillance equipment in the Ono area to contact his office at 245-6025."



http://790talknow.com/foxfeedspro/d...st-warrant-issued-redding-record-searchlight/


bbm

 

[Strawbale]

I am not sure if she is still standing by him. He is worried and something about the investigation spooked him. Whether it be the pacifier or the location of the search. What I find even stranger is that it has been 10 days, the child was reported missing and still no active amber alert has been issued. Thats pretty bizarre in itself.

i am pretty sure an amber alert is reserved for cases with a description of the vehicle. We know this guy's vehicle. As well as this guy. Not applicable to this case.