CA - Hannah Rachel Collins, 30, from Mississippi, found dead & wrapped in plastic by mom inside son's LA bedroom, Aug 2023 *hunt for 26yo suspect*

[tlcya]

and still no updates or named POI.

 

[DrQ]

IMHO My goodness! What a confusing case. Hmmm I am not sure how many son's would feel comfortable leavening a dead woman wrapped in plastic in their bedroom of their mother's home. This is hinky creepy and a lot more to probably come out on this case. So weird. Hopefully, LE will find answers.

 

[Jurisprudence]

The cause of death will take 4 to 6 months to determine, so I assume manner of death was also not readily apparent. Could be a homicide, suicide, or accidental death, possibly an overdose.

Why would someone wrap her in plastic and just leave her in a room, unless said someone had some involvement in her death?

jmo

Maybe the perp himself had a record for drugs and was too afraid to call it in? Still what was the plan? Looks like there was none. Moo

Speculation only

 

[steeltowngirl]

Mostly because LE, who know more than the public does in both cases, have not made the connection.

Thank you for answering. I don’t think there’s a connection either, but for different reasons. That said, other cases where LE have missed connections or delayed putting the pieces together to catch a killer - notably Henry Wallace, Gary Ridgeway, Richard Allen - cause me to be watchful.

jmo

 

[bestill]

Just reading about this case. Still no updates regarding the missing son? This is weird and why is name and an alert not out there for him?

 

[almagata]

I'm not sure what is going on with this case. They said on the news it was a homicide and the guy has been missing now for a couple of weeks. Hannah's mom said it was a homicide as well and was asking why his name had not been released.

Even the LA County Coroner search is blank for things like place of death. Los Angeles County Medical Examiner-Coroner

 

[Friday Fan]

I think the Hannah Collins murder could be linked to Rachel Morin. The video of the home burglary/assault suspect fits the description of both. The suspect in the Hannah Collins case has been missing for weeks and if he is on the run, he could be using gyms to shower at.

LAPD has not been sharing information with the media in either the Hannah Collins case or the home invasion burglary/assault. Even for LA, the Hannah Collins and burglary/assault cases are weird. Why would you leave a body in your bedroom for your mom to find? Why would you break into a house and leave via the front door with salutations to the kid in the house? It makes me think this guy maybe suffering some sort of mental illness and is not thinking rationally all the time but has periods of clarity.

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In Hannah's case, they know exactly who the guy is.
It's not a mystery.
He may not even look like guy from the video.




(In Hannah's case, the guy may also have a record for other crimes and may be known to LE...Just total speculation)

They likely have this guy's DNA too.

IMO: If it was the same guy they would be releasing his name and more photos etc.
LE hasn't stated anything about a connection.

 

[tlcya]

I find it super odd they haven't named he man whose room Hannah's body was found it. I do not believe that any connection exists between this and Rachel's case. JMO

That leaves me scratching my head about why this individual hasn't been named.

 

[10ofRods]

I'm confused why the young man hasn't been named. I mean I get they don't know COD and therefore cannot charge him with causing her death. But at the very least shouldn't he be charged with abuse of a corpse or failing to report a death or any one of those crimes that apply to mishandling of remains? Why is this guy's name not out there?

I think it's becoming standard operating procedure for LE to avoid giving out names until they put together an arrest warrant. The Judge will then approve that warrant and the name will be publicly known - but after due process.

One reason that LE where I live do this (and they do not do it all that frequently - they often release names), is because they do not want to make the situation worse (named suspects of a certain type/profile decide to then do rampage killings - or death by cop - and while they are not always successful, it's a risk that LE increasingly does not want to run).

Putting out the name leads to panic on the part of a certain type of perp. I figure LE knows more or less where he could be and will devise a method of bringing him to justice. I do wonder if LE have advised his mom to be elsewhere other than the family home until he's caught. I envision them looking for him/his vehicle in places family have indicated he might go.

But he could be anywhere. People who know him by name have probably been alerted (workplace, school, etc). What I'd like to know is what he looks like - I want a picture, just in case he's out running around on a crime spree in SoCal.

Also, he might have a very common name (that's another reason I've seen LE hesitate until the arrest warrant).

IMO.

 

[10ofRods]

IMHO My goodness! What a confusing case. Hmmm I am not sure how many son's would feel comfortable leavening a dead woman wrapped in plastic in their bedroom of their mother's home. This is hinky creepy and a lot more to probably come out on this case. So weird. Hopefully, LE will find answers.

I predict major mental illness of some kind, personally. Long onset, too. Prior abnormal behavior. Based just on probabilities and, well, a hunch.

I hope there are no other victims.

The more I think about the lack of a name for the suspect (who is obviously known to LE) is that it's a common name for that age group and would cause a kind of witch hunt. LE must want to find him without the public's assistance right now.

IMO.

 

[Charlot123]

My guess is, there's zero connection at all between these two cases.

jmo

Sadly, I feel the same. Maybe it is good that they are so mindless, but also, scary.

 

[Friday Fan]

I think it's becoming standard operating procedure for LE to avoid giving out names until they put together an arrest warrant. The Judge will then approve that warrant and the name will be publicly known - but after due process.

One reason that LE where I live do this (and they do not do it all that frequently - they often release names), is because they do not want to make the situation worse (named suspects of a certain type/profile decide to then do rampage killings - or death by cop - and while they are not always successful, it's a risk that LE increasingly does not want to run).

Putting out the name leads to panic on the part of a certain type of perp. I figure LE knows more or less where he could be and will devise a method of bringing him to justice. I do wonder if LE have advised his mom to be elsewhere other than the family home until he's caught. I envision them looking for him/his vehicle in places family have indicated he might go.

But he could be anywhere. People who know him by name have probably been alerted (workplace, school, etc). What I'd like to know is what he looks like - I want a picture, just in case he's out running around on a crime spree in SoCal.

Also, he might have a very common name (that's another reason I've seen LE hesitate until the arrest warrant).

IMO.

I agree.
I also think LE knows this guy. Maybe prior arrests or prior contact etc.
My hunch is there might be some mental illness history....

 

[tlcya]

I predict major mental illness of some kind, personally. Long onset, too. Prior abnormal behavior. Based just on probabilities and, well, a hunch.

I hope there are no other victims.

The more I think about the lack of a name for the suspect (who is obviously known to LE) is that it's a common name for that age group and would cause a kind of witch hunt. LE must want to find him without the public's assistance right now.

IMO.

or maybe they are attempting to protect the suspect's mother from being subject to a backlash from the public. I can't imaging what it's like to be in her shoes, finding Hannah that way and having to contact police to report it.

 

[tlcya]

I can't find any updates. Has the unnamed son ever turned up? Why did the press just completely drop this story?

 

[steeltowngirl]

I can't find any updates. Has the unnamed son ever turned up? Why did the press just completely drop this story?

I’ve seen other cases where the victim had substance abuse problems and the media just drops off. Sometimes it seems the police even drop off. They are treated like their lives didn’t matter as much as a result of their lifestyle choices. Sad.

 

[Sambanks]

and still no updates or named POI.

Still nothing. The news coverage should be everywhere. Unsolved murder of a young pretty woman visiting friends in Los Angeles. This kind of story is usually headline news.

 

[10ofRods]

I can't find any updates. Has the unnamed son ever turned up? Why did the press just completely drop this story?

We have few journalists left in America. Here in SoCal, most local papers are run by USA Today, who hires part time, inexperienced college students at minimum wage. LA Times usually covers a criminal case one time, until there's a major development.

If the deceased's family felt like contacting, say, KTLA (independent TV news), they might get some coverage. There is no investigative journalism, just journalistic response to LE press releases.

IMO. Totally my opinion.

 

[Friday Fan]

We have few journalists left in America. Here in SoCal, most local papers are run by USA Today, who hires part time, inexperienced college students at minimum wage. LA Times usually covers a criminal case one time, until there's a major development.

If the deceased's family felt like contacting, say, KTLA (independent TV news), they might get some coverage. There is no investigative journalism, just journalistic response to LE press releases.

IMO. Totally my opinion.

That's pretty much how it is.

They know who this guy is. If there is an arrest/arraignment, I guess it will make news. Otherwise, there really isn't much news.

 

[clorenc]

I wonder if LE has good reason to believe he has fled the country, and are attempting to work with authorities there instead. They might not think it helpful to alarm the public by releasing much info if he’s not even here to be on the lookout for.

 

[Friday Fan]

The interwebs has unofficial stuff about this case.......


On Aug 31st:
As of now, LAPD is not considering this a homicide as they wait for the medical examiner to determine the official cause of her death. The medical examiner currently has the cause of death listed as "pending" as they conduct more testing.

Friend remembers woman who was found dead and wrapped in plastic in downtown LA

It’s now been two weeks since a 30-year-old woman was found dead in a Los Angeles bedroom – wrapped in plastic.

www.nbclosangeles.com

MOO: It's probably gonna be awhile for them to determine official cause of death. Until then, there is probably no POI or suspect, or specific crime. If it's homicide, which they don't think it is, then they have that specific crime.

If it isn't homicide, and it's gonna take awhile due to tests they need to run, then they might have another crime.