CA - Joey, Summer, Gianni, Joseph Jr McStay Murders - Feb 4th 2010 #6

[missy1974]

OMG SHOCKER.... they are done for the day!!!!!

ran out of friggen witnesses AGAIN!!!!!

 

[Edmo]

By the sounds of it the judge has forgotten his warning that he would cite them for misconduct in front of the jury if they continued pursuing previously determined disallowed lines of questioning. It's beyond a joke. It never was a joke but it is playing out like one in that courtroom IMO.

I'm beginning to see that and it is ridiculous!

I apologize for the earlier YT link, I was watching a replay and thought it was live. It was live earlier and I ASSumed it was still going.

 

[Tortoise]

ok wait? what? LOL They happened at the exact same time. So either they were doing it "together" or Chase was doing it while talking to Joey on the phone without his knowledge (in the case of the first one) One of those is true.

I get that they had lots of calls between them, but it's VERY coincidental that calls are going on during or shortly after EVERY QB activity is done.

JMO

Katy's post said Joey called Chase 11 minutes after the cheque was raised.

I disagree that they can establish any link to what Chase was doing if he usually called him throughout the day every day. You might just as well say Joey called him about installing pumps in the fountains if that's what he was doing when he called him at other times.

 

[Edmo]

OMG SHOCKER.... they are done for the day!!!!!

ran out of friggen witnesses AGAIN!!!!!

I have a feeling that the Pros Team knows this Judge and thus, the 6 months it's going to take!

 

[katydid23]

ok wait? what? LOL They happened at the exact same time. So either they were doing it "together" or Chase was doing it while talking to Joey on the phone without his knowledge (in the case of the first one) One of those is true.

I get that they had lots of calls between them, but it's VERY coincidental that calls are going on during or shortly after EVERY QB activity is done.

JMO

I don't think they showed that there was a call from Joey after EVERY check was created etc.

 

[katydid23]

There was only an hour of court time left. So starting another witness might not have been a good idea, anyway. JMO

 

[katydid23]

ok wait? what? LOL They happened at the exact same time. So either they were doing it "together" or Chase was doing it while talking to Joey on the phone without his knowledge (in the case of the first one) One of those is true.

I get that they had lots of calls between them, but it's VERY coincidental that calls are going on during or shortly after EVERY QB activity is done.

JMO

from Prelim testimony:
THE WITNESS: Okay, on February 1st, 2010, at 12:24 P.M., Joseph McStay, the user Joseph McStay added Charles Merritt as a vendor. The next activity was at 12:34 P.M., where there was a check made out to charles merritt, all lower-case letters, for the amount of $2500. The memo line on that one said: “deposit.”
Q (By Mr. Daugherty) What else did you see happen on the 1st?
A At 12:37 P.M., there was another check added to charles merritt, for the same amount, $2500. The memo line also stated: “deposit.”

A At 12:38 P.M., the user printed the check written at 12:37 P.M.
Q And what happened next?
A At 12:47 P.M., the user deleted the check written at 12:37 P.M.
Q Okay. So the second check created was printed?

At 12:52 P.M., the user deleted check written at 12:34 P.M.


[So this activity was taking place from 12:24 until 12:52. What were the times of the phone calls that day? ]

 

[Tortoise]

Back on Tuesday then. IIRC it will be that fellow with the video overlay faro scan thing. The word escapes me.

 

[Tssiemer]

I just can’t with this trial anymore. Siiiigh.

 

[JMarsh]

I can't believe he actually said: "It doesn't look suspicious now, does it" to Hanke so the jury could hear that. The Judge should have REAMED him for that, IMO. Judge Smith is a push over.

Judge Smith is not a pushover. He has upheld controversial death penalties, and is thought of as tough.

 

[Edmo]

Judge Smith is not a pushover. He has upheld controversial death penalties, and is thought of as tough.

You got me.

 

[Tortoise]

from Prelim testimony:
THE WITNESS: Okay, on February 1st, 2010, at 12:24 P.M., Joseph McStay, the user Joseph McStay added Charles Merritt as a vendor. The next activity was at 12:34 P.M., where there was a check made out to charles merritt, all lower-case letters, for the amount of $2500. The memo line on that one said: “deposit.”
Q (By Mr. Daugherty) What else did you see happen on the 1st?
A At 12:37 P.M., there was another check added to charles merritt, for the same amount, $2500. The memo line also stated: “deposit.”

A At 12:38 P.M., the user printed the check written at 12:37 P.M.
Q And what happened next?
A At 12:47 P.M., the user deleted the check written at 12:37 P.M.
Q Okay. So the second check created was printed?

At 12:52 P.M., the user deleted check written at 12:34 P.M.


[So this activity was taking place from 12:38 until 12:52. What were the times of the phone calls that day? ]

You might want to edit that Katy, that says he started at 12.24, not 12.38.

 

[missy1974]

I have a feeling that the Pros Team knows this Judge and thus, the 6 months it's going to take!

This is just ridiculous! I cannot recall any other trial being like this... it's crazy!

 

[katydid23]

Here is yesterday's testimony, finally...

 

[katydid23]

You might want to edit that Katy, that says he started at 12.24, not 12.38.

OOPs, thanks, that's how rumors get started...

 

[Bernina]

So, did any of you catch that these phone calls went to voicemail, they weren't answered?

 

[Tortoise]

So, did any of you catch that these phone calls went to voicemail, they weren't answered?

What all of them?

 

[geevee]

I think Joey banked at Union Bank and Chase opening an account at Bank of America may have been to stop Joey's bank from being able to see Chase's deposits in an internal (branch to branch) enquiry.

All IMO

Huh, I thought CM already had an account at BofA and he opened the new account at Union.

 

[Aluev]

What I think we have to find out is if that $89724 is Joey's bank balance, or if it is a balance that is being worked with in relation to all the projects in motion. It is possible that the CUSTOM account didn't just monitor what was owed between Joey and Chase, but it was being used to monitor overall project expenses.

What we learned today is the CUSTOM account was created in January 2010, just ONE month before the dissapearance. On the CUSTOM account there were 8 vendors (if I recall correctly) listed including METRO SHEET METAL and Chase Merritt.

I think CUSTOM stands for the custom work, custom fountains and Joey wanted to differentiate the two businesses because he was seeing that that was where he made the most profit. The Saudi Arabia deal was when it became serious. He was not only keeping track of what he owed Chase but keeping track of the CUSTOM projects expenses and profits.

 

[missy1974]

I don't think they showed that there was a call from Joey after EVERY check was created etc.

So I went back a bit to get more... this is what I have for now until we get the replay... the feed stopped working on rewind now too LOL I DID hear it wrong and heard it that the call was DURING the QB activity, it was after.

HANKE testimony Feb 14th

Feb 1st

QB cheques added 12:34- ended at 12:52

Merritt phone records - Joey calling CM 9min 56sec….. 11 minutes after the QB's activity.


Feb 2nd:

11:27am cheque added

11:29am cheque added

both deleted at 11:57 (I thought I heard a few minutes later that he said 11:37, but not sure which is right/wrong)


Merritt calling Joey - 10:56am, multiple calls for insignificant amounts of time, seconds.

Call at 11:46am - Merritt - Joey 3min 24seconds - 9 minutes after the last cheque was adjusted.

12:04pm another call, over 13 minutes.


Feb 4th

cheque added 7:59, deleted at 8:05

Joey calls Merritt at 8:28pm 23 minutes after cheque was deleted.


Feb 5th

first cheque added at 12:06pm last one deleted 12:39pm sign out at 12:40

Call - 10:59am Chase to Joey. 55 seconds.

Call - 12:49 pm Chase to Joey 53 seconds


Feb 8th

cheque added at 2:20pm deleted at 2:25pm

Call - Chase to Joey 1:55pm 1 min 12 seconds. 25 minutes before the cheque was added.

Calls to QB's a little after 3pm.

(I think there may have been another call, but I lost sound so can't confirm until we get the replay)