Found Deceased CA - Kiely Rodni Missing From Party Near Prosser Family Campground in Truckee since 8 Aug 2022 #5

[getthefax]

Regardless of whether it is Kiely or not, AWF showed such compassion and respect for whomever may be in the vehicle, shielding their findings from the public.... amazing people. Watching,I felt I wanted to be there to help. Very inspirational to see there is still such humane decency in the world, especially in this day and age, although incredibly sad.

Yes, very professional. As I understood it, IIRC, LE did the actual extraction of the car from the water once AWP attached the buoy.

 

[JnRyan]

That a local LE agency, even with a body or bodies of water nearby, would only have need of the specialized equipment once in a blue moon is something I get. The last time a water search has been conducted by this local LE has probably been years. But it would also seem to make sense to have a state group that - with the necessary equipment - to respond to these cases. Having the proper sonar equipment and training is valuable in minimizing the divers' time in the water. Our local PD lost a diver a few years ago on a 'routine' exercise in a nearby man-made lake, so nothing is really routine when you go over side of the boat. The PC indicated there were numerous local agencies with dive teams. That is a LOT of valuable personnel to put at risk and with no results.

 

[azure]

Doesn't that include firemen , paramedics, and assorted inspectors including building and food inspectors? Nevada County has a massive fire named the Pleasant Fire with evacuations. That budget would also cover evacuations which results in huge amounts of overtime.

Yes, and courts, jails, etc. But if you read the budget, more $ has been allocated to LE in recent years than in past years for marijuana enforcement vs any kind of budget cut. My point is that I don't think that Nevada County LE is underfunded by any means.

 

[getthefax]

That a local LE agency, even with a body or bodies of water nearby, would only have need of the specialized equipment once in a blue moon is something I get. The last time a water search has been conducted by this local LE has probably been years. But it would also seem to make sense to have a state group that - with the necessary equipment - to respond to these cases. Having the proper sonar equipment and training is valuable in minimizing the divers' time in the water. Our local PD lost a diver a few years ago on a 'routine' exercise in a nearby man-made lake, so nothing is really routine when you go over side of the boat. The PC indicated there were numerous local agencies with dive teams. That is a LOT of valuable personnel to put at risk and with no results.

It has been stated several times by multiple folks that there’s a need to formalize the use of techniques and equipment that AWP is using. Let’s also remember that AWP also gets to up and choose whatever they want to work on.

You’re correct that the process can be made more efficient—but the trade off is that the more formal the process becomes, the slower and more bureaucratic…

There’s a great deal to be said for having a private citizen group doing work like this. I think it was the combination of all efforts that got this thing done.

 

[Truckeeite]

Does anyone have an image of what the water looked like at the point where they retrieved her car the day she went missing?

We had big rain around that time. AWP is noting that the water was higher when LE searched than it was yesterday.

I'm wondering if the big dirt "beaches" we can see on the images now were under water two weeks ago. If so, there might be much less distinction between the heavy brush dirt road she was traveling. It could make it easier to understand why she was confused.

 

[JosephK]

Kiely was pretty thin and also young, so I do think it is safe to assume to a degree that she would have gotten intoxicated fairly easily. I think we can trust she was drinking. I don't think she had Sprite when SS and the other friends were in the CRV drinking and charging phones.

It is a good point that toxicology would show more about what went on. Just how impaired she was, and what she may have consumed is not clear.

But we know she was drinking, and we know she unfortunately ended up in the water.

How do we "know" she was drinking? From the statement of a single friend? Her mother said she didn't drink and drive. Sure, she may be naive about her daughter, and I find it a very plausible scenario that KR was drinking to some degree, but we certainly don't "know" that IMO.

The scenario I hope didn't happen: KR being drugged and unconscious, then put in her car and the car driven/pushed into the reservoir. That may make it appear that she drove into the reservoir while she was conscious, and then drowned.

 

[JRW]

It just occurred to me that they have not identified keily as the person in the car, however they made a point to draw attention to her necklaces and jewelry earlier in the case...I'm wondering if her necklaces were on the body or in the vehicle when it was found....also I'm curious if her cell phone was in the vehicle?

 

[TeaTime]

Tragic loss of a beautiful child.

 

[JnRyan]

It has been stated several times by multiple folks that there’s a need to formalize the use of techniques and equipment that AWP is using. Let’s also remember that AWP also gets to up and choose whatever they want to work on.

You’re correct that the process can be made more efficient—but the trade off is that the more formal the process becomes, the slower and more bureaucratic…

There’s a great deal to be said for having a private citizen group doing work like this. I think it was the combination of all efforts that got this thing done.

I know all that. Years ago, LE recognized the need for specialized units - SWAT, HRT - to minimize the risk to LE personnel. Divers are not expendable personnel. They are at risk every time they go in whether it is a training dive or an actual search. There has to be a way to work smarter and not harder. Maybe the state only needs a 'fly away' boat team with the sonar and trained to work with local divers. Private search groups like AWP or even land searchers like EquiSearch are not going away because they are needed. Years ago in a class I was taught how to do a grid search using a mask and snorkel, but maybe its time to drop the old way and find a way to adopt a new one.

 

[indicolite22]

At 7:05 the car can be seen upside down on sonar:

 

[getthefax]

Does anyone have an image of what the water looked like at the point where they retrieved her car the day she went missing?

We had big rain around that time. AWP is noting that the water was higher when LE searched than it was yesterday.

I'm wondering if the big dirt "beaches" we can see on the images now were under water two weeks ago. If so, there might be much less distinction between the heavy brush dirt road she was traveling. It could make it easier to understand why she was confused.

Good thinking. I’m also wondering if, since it’s a reservoir, they were in control the level of the water and could have lowered it. *my speculation only*

I know all that. Years ago, LE recognized the need for specialized units - SWAT, HRT - to minimize the risk to LE personnel. Divers are not expendable personnel. They are at risk every time they go in whether it is a training dive or an actual search. There has to be a way to work smarter and not harder. Maybe the state only needs a 'fly away' boat team with the sonar and trained to work with local divers. Private search groups like AWP or even land searchers like EquiSearch are not going away because they are needed. Years ago in a class I was taught how to do a grid search using a mask and snorkel, but maybe its time to drop the old way and find a way to adopt a new one.

I agree 100%. I am a NAUI certified diver and know the training that goes into basic recreational diving doesn’t quite cut it for SAR dives—it’s a complex field, and every dive environment has hazards and challenges that must be carefully analyzed.

Honestly, I think this is about scale. It just isn’t all that often that something like this happens in one area, or even in one state. A few specialized, nationwide teams could cut it—but again, I’d lobby for them to be subcontractors, and not LE officials, so as to maintain the agile and nimble response we would all like for them to have, as well as a codified response protocol (which searches get priority? Etc).

 

[MsMarple]

At 7:05 the car can be seen upside down on sonar:

Wow! 10:40 am two sonar boats go into the water. 11:15 am car spotted using Garmin sonar technology.

55 feet offshore.

 

[RedHaus]

True, but if the car is later found to be in NEUTRAL, that is a big clue that it could be homicide.

Unless @katydid23, KR pulled over on that stretch of dirt road after starting to drive home... realizing she was in no shape to drive and possibly feeling unwell and disoriented. If by chance she did that, she could have put the car in Neutral instead of Park, fell asleep / passed out, and the car slowly rolled down the embankment to the beach and water. So if the car is found to be in Neutral, I am not sure that triggers an automatic foul play scenario. Could still be a tragic accident.

 

[MassGuy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1561798208480718848

 

[Cassady]

Perhaps in cases were water is in play, LE should consider calling in AWP right away.....and giving them $50K in consulting fees to help with the water searches.

IMO LE has that money in their budgets and it would seem to be a more effecient use of funds....especially if we use this active case as an example.

AWP usually does not get involved in active cases, but this is an example of perhaps why they should work with LE on some of these cases...IMO

 

[MsMarple]

At 7:05 the car can be seen upside down on sonar:

Mr. Bishop said they will work on Jolissa Fuentes' case next.

Found Deceased - CA - Jolissa Fuentes, 22, Selma, 7 Aug 2022

Police searching for missing woman in Selma Family pleads for help finding missing Selma woman, offers $2,000 reward SELMA, Calif. (FOX26) — A Selma family is searching for a 22-year-old woman who’s been missing for days now. “Find my granddaughter. My son’s daughter," pleaded Earl...

www.websleuths.com

 

[Curiosa20]

I wonder too, if she may have gone down that way to get a bit of air, sit by the water, and that is where she called Sami?

Maybe she became disoriented at that point and drove right in somehow? (i.e. impairment from last half hour or so of partying + fatigue really kicking in?)

If the party was 300-ish people, and really wild, the noise might still carry, and that could be why Sami heard party in the background? Edited: And of course, there could have been other cars around, music on. Not saying anyone saw her go in, but explaining "party noise."

Would fit the last "ping" and times well. Just a thought.

I haven’t heard the pressers yet.
I wish I could find solid credibility and less self interest in SS narrative, though.

 

[GuyfromCanada]

Video at link.

Dive team shares how it was able to located missing Truckee teen's car

Following a press conference with law enforcement Adventures with purpose hosted its own conference showing how it was able to locate Kiely Rodni's car.

www.abc10.com

 

[EDImath]

I noticed the hesitation in answering how many bodies were in the vehicle too. Perhaps they're unsure if someone else was diving and got out?

 

[indicolite22]

Now I remembered where I first read about Prosser being cleared by police:

“Police told us they did a rigorous search of this body of water,” said diver Josh Cantu, 31. “They gave us a grid map and made us confident we didn’t need to search here.”

Police believe body of missing teen Kiely Rodni found in California reservoir

A crack dive crew found recruited by law enforcement found the 2013 Honda CRV that Kiely Rodni drove and the likely remains of the teen in a local reservoir on Sunday.

nypost.com

Josh is a videographer for AWP, not a diver.