Found Deceased CA - Kiely Rodni Missing From Party Near Prosser Family Campground in Truckee since 8 Aug 2022 #5

[Charlot123]

Some random thoughts:

1) I doubt KR has voluntarily disappeared. No money and no credit card activity. Unless she has a sugar daddy or someone "protecting" her, I can't see her living off the land. Even is she pursued the van life, her car should have been seen by now.

2) Much of her high school career was during COVID. With California restrictions, how much of her experience was in-person vs online? How many of her fellow graduates did she know well?

3) If KR left on her own about the time of the supposed 12:30 exodus, most likely she would have followed the lights of other cars. Any cars following her might have noticed a wrong turn on her part. This suggests to me that she did not leave with the reported 12:30 exodus.

4) I believe the late night text to her mother is legitimate. Only KR or a close friend would know the details of her curfew. Also why ask for only a 15 minute extension? In what way would that help a possible abductor?

A do not believe there is enough evidence out there for internet detectives to solve this. I will continue to follow in the hopes that a big break is made soon.

With due respect, anyone can send a text. My kids are bilingual, so in case of a concern, I ask to repeat in another language. But lots of texts are generic. (Now they sell phones with imbedded SMSs, if you can’t answer a call). In other worlds, a text from KR’s phone doesn’t equal KR. And given that KR was a good kid, a bright student and held a job, of course her mom would trust her.

 

[Slamalam]

Some random thoughts:
3) If KR left on her own about the time of the supposed 12:30 exodus, most likely she would have followed the lights of other cars. Any cars following her might have noticed a wrong turn on her part. This suggests to me that she did not leave with the reported 12:30 exodus.

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IMO that’s what keeps sticking out for me too. A bunch of cars all heading in one direction out of a party and then one random car going the opposite way? Someone may have thought it was intentional for whatever reason and not tried to stop her (thought whoever was driving was going down by the water to make out? Whatever else). But I think it would have been at least *noticed* anyway.

 

[Beekarina]

With due respect, anyone can send a text. My kids are bilingual, so in case of a concern, I ask to repeat in another language. But lots of texts are generic. (Now they sell phones with imbedded SMSs, if you can’t answer a call). In other worlds, a text from KR’s phone doesn’t equal KR. And given that KR was a good kid, a bright student and held a job, of course her mom would trust her.

This is a good practice.

I will try to find the source for you, but Kiely's mom gave specifics and the text wasn't generic. It said things like "I love you mom." and others have mentioned it may have had unusual punctuation.

Edited to add:

The 16-year-old texted her mom, Lindsey Rodni-Nieman, from a party at the Prosser Family Campground in Truckee — about 15 miles north of Lake Tahoe — saying she planned to leave the party in 45 minutes and would come “straight home.”

“I told her to be safe and that I loved her. And she said, ‘Ok, mom, I love you, too,” Rodni-Nieman told ABC News.

Missing California Teen Kiely Rodni’s Mom Shares Final Text, When She ‘Knew Something Was Wrong’ | Oxygen Official Site

Missing California teen Kiely Rodni sent her mom one final message late Friday night. The 16-year-old texted her mom, Lindsey Rodni-Nieman, from a party at the Prosser Family Campground in Truckee — about 15 miles north of Lake Tahoe — saying she planned to leave the party in 45 minutes and...

www.oxygen.com

 

[steeltowngirl]

They had made the comment about trusting what had already been done or something along those lines? I wonder if they felt that Prosser had already been adequately searched?

I got a similar impression from this:

Rodni's family is holding on to hope, Bishop believes if Rodni is underwater, they will find her.

“There are no longer any dive teams there present. Those things have been exhausted already. They’re confident in what they’ve been able to rule out. And I am as well,” Bishop said.

Specialty Group Joins Search for Missing Teen Kiely Rodni

A new group of searchers are coming in from out of state to help find a Truckee teenager, who went missing after attending a campground party in Placer County.

www.nbcbayarea.com

 

[rudegirl]

The news clip with AWP is really interesting. I posted this map on previous thread. This is a back road from Prosser Reservoir to Reno. Select bicycle to see the route. It goes right by Stampede. AWP said Donner Lake is clear and the the smaller ponds near her house. So there’s a lot of info LE has not released. AWP also said there were multiple party sites. Makes sense for a group of 300 people. Some would disperse, and perhaps some left to go to Reno after. Jagger went straight to Reno after she disappeared. That was telling. It takes a lot more time to drive from Truckee to South Lake Tahoe (Stateline) to party than Truckee to Reno. Truckee kids would likely go to Reno more imo

 

[Beekarina]

I don't rule out a car being burned EXCEPT in that local area. We had a crime back in state where I grew up where the vehicle was found burned in the next state over. BUT that requires a WILLING accomplice to drive it out to, say the Nevada desert, and that complicates things. Same with the chop shop scenario. I don't see the likelihood of a teen or 20 something having access to those facilities AND a WILLING accomplice. I don't write them off my list, rather I think the KISS principal applies. The parking lot, water or ravine that you point out are also my possibilities. Another is parking it out of view on vacant rental property. Added to this is the fact that that I don't remember if Kiely's CRV has AWD or 4WD. With that the vehicle can be driven out into any number of places out of sight. Drive it a few hundred yards to a half mile off the road and under trees and it may be months before it is found by accident.

Someone mentioned her model of CRV does have 4WD awhile back. I believe they own a similar one, different year? I would not take this as fact, however.

I can suggest this:

IF someone wanted to hide the vehicle, they are not going to care if they mess up the undercarriage etc.

We mentioned Daniel Gallardo earlier in the discussion. He is a young man who went missing a few years ago, when he was due to start a job in Truckee. His vehicle was found about a year later, 40 miles or so north, on some crazy dirt road barely a road in the middle of the wilderness. Either he drove it up there, or someone else did. His car was a lowered Nissan, so a lot less easy to "get out there" in than even a regular CRV.

 

[steeltowngirl]

Around 2:00 in the video, AWP says they are focused on Donner Lake, in the area of the boat launch. I am paraphrasing, but they say they cannot say why the focus is there, but they do mention “working off of intel”.

ETA- Doug said “I really wish I could tell you, unfortunately I can’t, what we’re working with right now, no one knows.”

 

[Beekarina]

Every time someone shares a video of the area, I'm struck by how beautiful it is.

 

[CharlestonGal]

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[sunshineray]

I'm a comma person when I'm texting. I kinda use them as a break to accentuate the cadence of what I'm saying, if that makes sense.

I find the comma between KR's I love you and too to be very odd. I wonder if that was normal for her. Has her Mom said that text seemed odd in any way?

 

[Charlot123]

Around 2:00 in the video, AWP says they are focused on Donner Lake, in the area of the boat launch. I am paraphrasing, but they say they cannot say why the focus is there, but they do mention “working off of intel”.

ETA- Doug said “I really wish I could tell you, unfortunately I can’t, what we’re working with right now, no one knows.”

Poor search group, they are afraid of finding her, one of them said, but if KR is there, it is their job to find her for the family.

 

[youngsleuther]

I don't know if this has already been answered but there weren't any tire marks on any roads right? KR's parents must be wel versed with tires of their SUV so maybe somewhere they find something if the car went in the water.
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[MassGuy]

Some random thoughts:

1) I doubt KR has voluntarily disappeared. No money and no credit card activity. Unless she has a sugar daddy or someone "protecting" her, I can't see her living off the land. Even is she pursued the van life, her car should have been seen by now.

2) Much of her high school career was during COVID. With California restrictions, how much of her experience was in-person vs online? How many of her fellow graduates did she know well?

3) If KR left on her own about the time of the supposed 12:30 exodus, most likely she would have followed the lights of other cars. Any cars following her might have noticed a wrong turn on her part. This suggests to me that she did not leave with the reported 12:30 exodus.

4) I believe the late night text to her mother is legitimate. Only KR or a close friend would know the details of her curfew. Also why ask for only a 15 minute extension? In what way would that help a possible abductor?

A do not believe there is enough evidence out there for internet detectives to solve this. I will continue to follow in the hopes that a big break is made soon.

Yup, I agree with all of that. Although abduction is astronomically unlikely IMO, the only person with a reason to send a text like that would be someone close to her. I think its an incredibly safe bet that she did in fact send that message.

To your last point, I believe any break will come in the form of her vehicle being found in a body of water. I have no reason to believe anyone actually saw anything that will lead them to her location, nor do I believe anyone on the internet will be able to help. If anything, I'm sure they're the ones sending in the majority of the tips, all of which will prove pointless.

 

[steeltowngirl]

Yup, I agree with all of that. Although abduction is astronomically unlikely IMO, the only person with a reason to send a text like that would be someone close to her. I think its an incredibly safe bet that she did in fact send that message.

To your last point, I believe any break will come in the form of her vehicle being found in a body of water. I have no reason to believe anyone actually saw anything that will lead them to her location, nor do I believe anyone on the internet will be able to help. If anything, I'm sure they're the ones sending in the majority of the tips, all of which will prove pointless.

What if they find her car and she’s not inside? Any thoughts of what next steps might be?

 

[CharlestonGal]

What if they find her car and she’s not inside? Any thoughts of what next steps might be?

Probably search warrants. Lots and lots of search warrants. For the phones and possibly houses of numerous partygoers. jmo

 

[getthefax]

What if they find her car and she’s not inside? Any thoughts of what next steps might be?

Depends on its condition and location (underwater? Burned? Nearby or far away? Etc).

Hopefully the processing of her intact car would provide them with new leads. Prints, an inventory of her personal items that were supposedly in the car but that were missing could then be looked for, and the location of the car would provide a direction to go on. Right now they have so very little (at least that that they are sharing).

To be honest, IMMO don’t think there’s very much information that they are holding back at this point.

All amateur speculation only.

 

[getthefax]

Probably search warrants. Lots and lots of search warrants. For the phones and possibly houses of numerous partygoers. jmo

Yes! The moment they locate the car without her, depending on its condition, they’ll begin to be able to issue search warrants. It would be a huge break.

 

[JnRyan]

What if they find her car and she’s not inside? Any thoughts of what next steps might be?

Then it is obvious this wasn't an accident. Search warrants. I'm not a lawyer, but as I understand it you have to have evidence of a crime to obtain as SW for the cell phone activity and maybe that is it. Also find her phone. I mentioned earlier that some department of corrections have dogs trained to sniff out hidden cell phones. Not just because it might have something on it, but just like the car in the water without her, her cell phone laying somewhere in the woods might make the case stronger for something criminal. Of course, the phone could be in the water or in the car.

I originally had the accident scenario high on my list of possibilities. Now I'm thinking something happened in the vicinity of the party. Or in her car.

 

[SteveP]

Depends on its condition and location (underwater? Burned? Nearby or far away? Etc).

Hopefully the processing of her intact car would provide them with new leads. Prints, an inventory of her personal items that were supposedly in the car but that were missing could then be looked for, and the location of the car would provide a direction to go on. Right now they have so very little (at least that that they are sharing).

To be honest, IMMO don’t think there’s very much information that they are holding back at this point.

All amateur speculation only.

We have no way of knowing how much or how little, but you can be sure that LE are holding back information. Even when they publicly make statements to the contrary, they always know more than they share with the public. JMO

 

[Curiousobserver]

Around 2:00 in the video, AWP says they are focused on Donner Lake, in the area of the boat launch. I am paraphrasing, but they say they cannot say why the focus is there, but they do mention “working off of intel”.

ETA- Doug said “I really wish I could tell you, unfortunately I can’t, what we’re working with right now, no one knows.”

This makes sense as well. It’s the next simplest mistake she could have made- missing her way off the expressway and trying to turn around somewhere. Dark, late, perhaps drunk, on her way home but misses a turn…

LE may also have some information about possible destinations, such as after parties, in that area.