GUILTY CA - Lana Clarkson, 40, fatally shot, Alhambra, 3 Feb 2003

[Pepper]

just when it was getting rolling .... i seem to remember beth karas of ctv mentioning that part of the reason the trial was being projected to be 3-4 months was because theyre only going to be in session four days a week (m-th).

I understand the frustration for the closed courtroom on Fridays, but after seeing it from a juror's point of view, I now understand and condone 4 day trials.

My boss was on jury duty for a 6-week trial. They held court Tues - Fri, giving everyone the day off on Monday. It is an incredible sacrifice to serve on a jury for longer than a week, especially if you are self-employed. In her case, it was a federal trial, and the judge excused NO ONE! They even provided day care for mother's with young children, so there was absolutely no excuse for not serving. I don't know how she would have kept her business together if she didn't have one day a week to catch up.

 

[Seven]

I understand the frustration for the closed courtroom on Fridays, but after seeing it from a juror's point of view, I now understand and condone 4 day trials.

My boss was on jury duty for a 6-week trial. They held court Tues - Fri, giving everyone the day off on Monday. It is an incredible sacrafice to serve on a jury for longer than a week, especially if you are self-employed. In her case, it was a federal trial, and the judge excused NO ONE! They even provided day care for mother's with young children, so there was absolutely no excuse for not serving. I don't know how she would have kept her business together if she didn't have one day a week to catch up.

.... i hadnt thought of that .... and i have a feeling that if questioning goes as slowly as it did yesterday, this is gonna be a loooooooong one!

 

[roulons]

Opening statements today at the Phil Spector trial. The whole time the Pros. was talking he was staring and nodding his head "no". Anyone going to follow the trial?

I'm going to follow every minute I can!
They are doing 4 days per week - no Fridays.
The forensics are sounding very interesting in this case.

 

[AlwaysShocked]

Re: All those experts. Spector has lots of money. So he hires every famous expert, even if only to "consult". That way the prosecution can't hire them.
They might not all testify. But once hired for a report by the defense, they are forever not available to the prosecution.

Question: Were these any of these "gun incident women" prostitutes or call girls or "models-who-turn-a trick-once-in-a-while"? The only reason I ask is the story about Spector buying a drink and a bottle of water and then leaving a $450 tip. Not being a Hollywood insider, I don't know about these kind of things, but is that really a tip or is that an inducement to get a woman to come to his house to "service" him further?

 

[tennessee]

No idea. But I will say this: his behavior with the guns disgusts me. I'm a long time gun owner, and this guy clearly has no business possessing guns.

I agree. He seems a wee bit nuts and should have probably been locked up years ago.

 

[Class-z]

just when it was getting rolling .... i seem to remember beth karas of ctv mentioning that part of the reason the trial was being projected to be 3-4 months was because theyre only going to be in session four days a week (m-th).

Welcome to the California court system.

 

[kato]

Has court started yet?

 

[Niner]

they won't be back until 9:30am WEDNESDAY??? What just happened??? anyone??

 

[Seven]

they won't be back until 9:30am WEDNESDAY??? What just happened??? anyone??

thats' what i came over here to find out!
i hate when this happens .......

 

[Ca-Sun]

they won't be back until 9:30am WEDNESDAY??? What just happened??? anyone??

Bruce Cutler had to go to the doctor, so court is cancelled for the day. Tuesday's session was already scratched because of a protest march expected to cause gridlock in downtown L.A., so no testimony until Wednesday.

 

[JBean]

The judge reminded the witnesses to stop talking publicly before he sent them home today. he was referncing a couple of them talking on Court TV.

 

[Niner]

I was reading some of the depos and info on Phillip; here's what I found of interest!

He has/had 4 children: (and they ALL have the name "Phillip" in their names...)
Louis Phillip - Born May 12, 1966 (adopted: age 5)
Gary Phillip - Born May 12, 1966 (adopted: age 5)
Donte Phillip - Born March 23, 1969 (Adopted: age 8 months)
Phillip - born 1982 (passed away Dec 1992)

so it looks like one of the twins is NOT the one that passed away... And no girls... I thought someone mentioned he had a girl... guess not, unless Donte is a girl's name.

Also - what Spector is charged with: 2nd degree murder in which he could receive a 15-year to life sentence.

 

[JDB]

The trial has been delayed again till monday the 14th. Also the DA is asking for sanactions against the Defense after Henry Lee was on Crier last week and opened his mouth about new testing had been done. and the defense failed to give the DA anything regarding the testing.
Also the judge is upset that both Lee and Dr. Baden have been on Tv talking about the case.

 

[Carrington]

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article2386033.ece

Interesting article:
Another blond who wanted to be MM.

 

[kato]

The trial has been delayed again till monday the 14th. Also the DA is asking for sanactions against the Defense after Henry Lee was on Crier last week and opened his mouth about new testing had been done. and the defense failed to give the DA anything regarding the testing.
Also the judge is upset that both Lee and Dr. Baden have been on Tv talking about the case.

Oh man!!!

 

[William N]

The trial has been delayed again till monday the 14th. Also the DA is asking for sanactions against the Defense after Henry Lee was on Crier last week and opened his mouth about new testing had been done. and the defense failed to give the DA anything regarding the testing.
Also the judge is upset that both Lee and Dr. Baden have been on Tv talking about the case.

Baden did this in even worse fashion during the Simpson Civil Trial in 1996. That trial had a gag order which the Spector trial doesn't. Dr. Werner Spitz (now on the Spector team) was testifying during the plaintiff case. Michael Baden went on the show Geraldo Rivera had at the time and criticized Spitz's testimony. This was despite the fact that Baden was going to be a witness during the defense case. Plus, Baden was violating the gag order.

The next day, Judge Fujisaki declined to hold Baden in contempt but ruled that if he or any witness did that again, they would be barred from testifying at the trial. Simpson's attorney, Robert Baker did not even argue the point. See Daniel Petrocelli's book, "Triumph of Justice," chapter 24.

 

[AlwaysShocked]

From the lengthy article linked above:

"Two months before she was killed, after a long drought in which she had appeared only in downmarket TV commercials, she had landed a part in a play called Brentwood Babes by John Barons. It was about famous dead blondes, including Sharon Tate and Nicole Brown Simpson. She had been cast as her idol, Marilyn Monroe. Many actresses and models idolise Marilyn - Anna Nicole Smith, for instance, who reportedly told friends that she wanted to be buried next to Monroe in Westwood, not realising that Hugh Hefner had already bought the plot."

"On 10 January 2003, Lana Clarkson was fired from the cast of Brentwood Blondes. "She kept coming in with more demands," John Barons told me. " 'No, Lana, I cannot get you a $7,000 gold-lamé gown. And we cannot drive to the Valley to rent one.' She looked at me and said, 'Do you want to replace me? No problem.' I felt bad because she said she was helping her mother and sister and they were not doing well financially. Over Christmas she said that she had a rotten time with her dysfunctional family. I got the impression she was turning to older men for help."

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article2386033.ece

What does "turning to older men for help" mean?

It would certainly change the "circumstances" of the incident if Lana was there in a "professional capacity" - in that under those circumstances she could have been voluntarily involved in "sexual gun-play". But then again, if she was there "professionally" why would she have been near the door with her purse on her shoulder?

In any case, I would expect the defense will have dug up any of this type of information if it is out there. And will somehow get it into evidence during the defense portion of the trial.

 

[Gozgals]

Always Shocked, what an excellent article you posted on Spector and Lana. Very interesting and a good read for all. Spector has always had a screw loose.

What does "turning to older men for help" mean?

It would certainly change the "circumstances" of the incident if Lana was there in a "professional capacity" - in that under those circumstances she could have been voluntarily involved in "sexual gun-play". But then again, if she was there "professionally" why would she have been near the door with her purse on her shoulder?

In any case, I would expect the defense will have dug up any of this type of information if it is out there. And will somehow get it into evidence during the defense portion of the trial.

IMO, I think Lana just went to Spector's house after the club closed to party with another lonely person and not to gain anything financial, nor in any so called "professional capacity." She appeared to be true to her nature as a want to be actress in spite of her setbacks in the acting world. Whether this was an accident or outright murder, Spector took advantage of her, and went psycho on her with his guns as he has on many women and men. His previous behavior alludes to this fact.

Either way, the defense will try to destroy Lana as they always try to tarnish the victims in all cases. Sadly, this is what we will see.

Thanks again
Gozgals

 

[Seven]

The trial has been delayed again till monday the 14th. Also the DA is asking for sanactions against the Defense after Henry Lee was on Crier last week and opened his mouth about new testing had been done. and the defense failed to give the DA anything regarding the testing.
http://smiley.smileycentral.com/dow...jhtml?i=F/0/206&partner=ZSzeb075_ZSYYYYYYJNUShttp://smiley.smileycentral.com/download/talking_preview.jhtml?i=F/0/206&partner=ZSYYYYYYJNUS Also the judge is upset that both Lee and Dr. Baden have been on Tv talking about the case.

I saw Lee and Wecht on catherine crier, each on separate days.
didnt see baden on the subject of PS.

anyway, i agree w/the judge .... lee and wecht and baden have become such brand names that they behave as if they live in their own little bubbles .... the people of the State of California are paying tons for this trial .... the judge is just trying to keep it fair.

 

[AlwaysShocked]

"Dr." Henry Lee is vastly over-rated IMO. His "performance" in the Michael Peterson case was pitiful - the spitting of the ketchup. This man is NOT a medical doctor, is NOT a pathologist. He is a "criminalist".

Okay. What exactly is a "criminalist"? Am I a criminalist because I like to follow criminal trials? What are the qualifications to become a "criminalist"? Is there a license or certification involved in becoming a "criminalist"?

Furthermore, this man has lived in the United States for how long? 20 years? 30 years? Why has he been unable to learn to speak the English language a little better than he has?

It sounds to me like the defense in this case is going to try to make something of the fact that the limo driver is not a native English speaker. From listening to the 911 call, it seems the limo driver was doing just fine with the English language!

But Dr. Henry Lee who has been in this country for many, many years still seems to have such a big, big problem with the English language. Amazing!

From my own personal experience: I once worked closely with a medical doctor of Korean background. He had been in the US for over 20 years, had an accent, but he was very understandable. BUT when he was in a position of having to meet with the relatives of the patient, which we had to do on a regular basis, this man would lapse into the most non-understandable English I had ever heard - but with a beatific smile on his face throughout! Literally, he would leave the room and the relatives would look quizzically at me and state "What did he just say?"

I think it is a con - a tactic used by people who have an accent to improve their "cachet" and also a tactic to avoid answering questions they just don't want to answer. They become very practiced at this con. I witnessed it first hand and I stongly suspect I was witnessing it again during "Doctor" Henry Lee's testimony during the Michael Peterson trial.

Ahhh! And that smile! That beatific smile!!! Ahhh, so! So CHARMING, and so very familiar!