CA CA - Los Angeles Co, WhtFem 20-30, UP4456, drug overdose, maybe name 'Patty', Dec'75

[John/Jane Doe]

@Caring1 Hey could you post the current list of NamUs exclusions for this Jane Doe? I would greatly appreciate it.

 

[sorcoy14]

No exclusions.

 

[HmmMysterious]

Jane Doe's face was recognizable, yet it seems police didn't bother to take a photo of her

 

[Alleykins]

Jane Doe's face was recognizable, yet it seems police didn't bother to take a photo of her

I think I recall CarlK said LAPD doesn't like to release PM photos. So if they haven't misplaced the case file, they probably have photos of her.

 

[summergirl1]

There's no dental records on her? Not that every missing person has dental records available either, but.. I'm guessing the friend was probably more of an acquaintance and even if the friend knew more details not available online, that they may or may not have been true details. She's unlikely to be identified if there's no way to get DNA if she was cremated etc.

 

[summergirl1]

I wonder if the friend is still alive and if it's possible the friend knew more than they said, but minimized the details due to her ( and possibly the friend too, it sounds like) being involved in drugs? Just a thought. Maybe the friend feared some drug related backlash from people involved in drugs who knew this Jane Doe if the friend ( not identified as male or female, intrrestingly) said much or even revealed her true identity. Of course the friend did call for medical assistance and some people in that situation wouldn't have if it was a just an acquaintance from a bar who didn't give much or true details on who they were. Obviously, this Jane Doe must not have had any ID on her, even false ID.

 

[phantomstrider]

No exclusions.

Seeing as the doe was likely cremated and there and dna and dentals aren’t available. It isn’t very surprising there are no exclusions. They have no way to compare her to any missing person.

 

[John/Jane Doe]

Seeing as the doe was likely cremated and there and dna and dentals aren’t available. It isn’t very surprising there are no exclusions. They have no way to compare her to any missing person.

The only identifier this Jane Doe has are Fingerprints. So it is the only way to identify it.

1373UFCA

 

[Bit of hope]

DBM wrong thread

 

[HmmMysterious]

This girl was recently uploaded to the Charley Project and the CA Attorney General's Office. Does she sound like a good candidate? Her nickname was Patty too

Patricia "Patty" Suzette Wilson



Patricia was last seen in Glendale, California sometime in 1975. Few details are available in her case.

Height: 5'7" just an inch taller than Jane Doe
Weight: 130 pounds which is 20 pounds heavier than JD, but Patricia could have lost weight
Eye color: Blue/hazel eyes, same description given to JD's eye color
Hair color: Blonde hair, Jane Doe's hair color was described as either blonde or brown

Patricia Suzanne Wilson – The Charley Project
Patricia Suzanne Wilson

 

[Mysteries1974]

This girl was recently uploaded to the Charley Project and the CA Attorney General's Office. Does she sound like a good candidate? Her nickname was Patty too

Patricia "Patty" Suzette Wilson

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Patricia was last seen in Glendale, California sometime in 1975. Few details are available in her case.

Height: 5'7" just an inch taller than Jane Doe
Weight: 130 pounds which is 20 pounds heavier than JD, but Patricia could have lost weight
Eye color: Blue/hazel eyes, same description given to JD's eye color
Hair color: Blonde hair, Jane Doe's hair color was described as either blonde or brown

Patricia Suzanne Wilson – The Charley Project
Patricia Suzanne Wilson

Was coming to mention her. I created a thread for Patricia and submitted her to NamUs. The fact that this woman went by Patty is what gets me because Patricia went by that name as well.

 

[Mysteries1974]

CA - CA - Patricia Suzanne Wilson, 16-17, Glendora, 1975

Patricia Suzanne Wilson Charley Project Link: Patricia Suzanne Wilson – The Charley Project Patricia, circa 1975 Missing Since: 01/01/1975 Missing From: Glendora, California Classification: Endangered Missing Sex: Female Race: White Date of Birth: 09/01/1958 (65) Age: 16 - 17 years old...

www.websleuths.com

Here’s Patricia’s thread

 

[Mysteries1974]

I recently found a comment under a post I made about Patricia “Patty” Suzanne Wilson on Facebook. Someone in my comments recommended this Doe which a friend of Patricia’s replied to. The friend said Patricia had surgery on her right knee as a child which left a scar. This matches up with Jane Doe. I believe this Doe and Patricia are likely a match.

CA - CA - Patricia Suzanne Wilson, 16-17, Glendora, 1975

Patricia Suzanne Wilson Charley Project Link: Patricia Suzanne Wilson – The Charley Project Patricia, circa 1975 Missing Since: 01/01/1975 Missing From: Glendora, California Classification: Endangered Missing Sex: Female Race: White Date of Birth: 09/01/1958 (65) Age: 16 - 17 years old...

www.websleuths.com

Here’s Patricia’s thread

 

[HmmMysterious]

I recently found a comment under a post I made about Patricia “Patty” Suzanne Wilson on Facebook. Someone in my comments recommended this Doe which a friend of Patricia’s replied to. The friend said Patricia had surgery on her right knee as a child which left a scar. This matches up with Jane Doe. I believe this Doe and Patricia are likely a match.

I think so, except how do we compare them. "Patty" only has fingerprints available and Patricia Wilson doesn't seem to have anything available.

 

[Keiri]

I think so, except how do we compare them. "Patty" only has fingerprints available and Patricia Wilson doesn't seem to have anything available.

Then it’s up to LE to arrange testing

 

[Mysteries1974]

I think so, except how do we compare them. "Patty" only has fingerprints available and Patricia Wilson doesn't seem to have anything available.

I’m hoping they know where “Patty” is buried or located currently. Maybe they can exhume her remains for DNA tests. Unless Patricia Wilson has anything for testing, it won’t happen. I believe her family is working with Law Enforcement so i’m sure they are or have already given a sample.

 

[Mysteries1974]

Then it’s up to LE to arrange testing

I emailed the Los Angeles County Medical Examiner and this is what i got in response:

We will review the submitted information. Please note, the results of comparisons may or may not be made available to the public for investigatory reasons. Thank you for the suggestion, we appreciate your time and support.

Regards,
Identifications Section
Los Angeles Medical Examiner
IDUnit@me.lacounty.gov

Los Angeles County Medical Examiner-Coroner

Since California became a state, each County has had a coroner. The Coroner was an elected official (often the Sheriff) who was charged with determining cause and manner of death in specific cases.

me.lacounty.gov

 

[Keiri]

That's actually pretty decent for a response. Most of the time I get nothing.

 

[Mysteries1974]

That's actually pretty decent for a response. Most of the time I get nothing.

They actually responded literally within a half hour too which is crazy. Usually it takes LE or ME a day or two to get back. Sometimes i don’t even get a response and i just have to hope they see it. I do hope something comes out of this. I feel that “Patty” and Patricia Wilson are the same person. The timeline fits too. I wish there was more of an actual estimate on when in 1975 Patricia was last heard from.

Unknown 1975: Patricia Suzanne Wilson (born September 1, 1958) is last heard from in Glendora, Los Angeles County, California. She was 16-17 years old at the time.

June 1975: Unnamed individual meets “Patty” at a bar on 9th and Vermont Avenue.

December 21, 1975: “Patty” arrives at a friend’s house at 2:00 pm, apparently under the influence of narcotics. At 11:30 pm, she began to vomit and her friend called 911 to seek medical assistance. When they arrived, the young woman had unfortunately died. Her friend had no useful knowledge of her past or who she was. They said she called herself “Patty” and that they met her at a bar.

Similarities as pointed out by @HmmMysterious :

-Patrica and “Patty” both have near matching hair and eye colors. Jane Doe was determined to have had blonde/brown hair and blue/hazel eyes. Patricia Wilson had blonde hair and hazel eyes

-Patricia and “Patty” have a height difference of one inch. Wilson was said to be approximately 5’7” when she was last seen. Jane Doe is 5’6”.

-I recently learned from a childhood friend of Patricia that she had surgery on her right knee as a child which did leave a scar. This matches with “Patty” who is noted as having a scar on her right knee.

-Both were in the Los Angeles area at the same time. I overall just see it being too big of a coincidence that Patricia Wilson vanished without a trace in 1975, hasn’t tried to contact anyone she knew since, hasnt tried to use her SSN, etc. Then a girl going by “Patty”, Patricia’s nickname died the same year and was never positively identified. The fact that they likely have the same scar too just adds to the overall suspicion.

I don’t know if Patricia and “Patty” are the same. I definitely do think they are a good match. I believe Patricia Wilson likely left home or wherever she was staying in Glendora to do her own thing in 1975. I think this was a pretty common occurrence for teenagers in the 70s and 80s.

 

[HmmMysterious]

They actually responded literally within a half hour too which is crazy. Usually it takes LE or ME a day or two to get back. Sometimes i don’t even get a response and i just have to hope they see it. I do hope something comes out of this. I feel that “Patty” and Patricia Wilson are the same person. The timeline fits too. I wish there was more of an actual estimate on when in 1975 Patricia was last heard from.

Unknown 1975: Patricia Suzanne Wilson (born September 1, 1958) is last heard from in Glendora, Los Angeles County, California. She was 16-17 years old at the time.

June 1975: Unnamed individual meets “Patty” at a bar on 9th and Vermont Avenue.

December 21, 1975: “Patty” arrives at a friend’s house at 2:00 pm, apparently under the influence of narcotics. At 11:30 pm, she began to vomit and her friend called 911 to seek medical assistance. When they arrived, the young woman had unfortunately died. Her friend had no useful knowledge of her past or who she was. They said she called herself “Patty” and that they met her at a bar.

Similarities as pointed out by @HmmMysterious :

-Patrica and “Patty” both have near matching hair and eye colors. Jane Doe was determined to have had blonde/brown hair and blue/hazel eyes. Patricia Wilson had blonde hair and hazel eyes

-Patricia and “Patty” have a height difference of one inch. Wilson was said to be approximately 5’7” when she was last seen. Jane Doe is 5’6”.

-I recently learned from a childhood friend of Patricia that she had surgery on her right knee as a child which did leave a scar. This matches with “Patty” who is noted as having a scar on her right knee.

-Both were in the Los Angeles area at the same time. I overall just see it being too big of a coincidence that Patricia Wilson vanished without a trace in 1975, hasn’t tried to contact anyone she knew since, hasnt tried to use her SSN, etc. Then a girl going by “Patty”, Patricia’s nickname died the same year and was never positively identified. The fact that they likely have the same scar too just adds to the overall suspicion.

I don’t know if Patricia and “Patty” are the same. I definitely do think they are a good match. I believe Patricia Wilson likely left home or wherever she was staying in Glendora to do her own thing in 1975. I think this was a pretty common occurrence for teenagers in the 70s and 80s.

Thanks for making this. At this point, the only person who can solve this is the friend who "Patty" was visiting when she died. I hope they're still alive for questioning.