Thought I would throw this out there and see if anyone has any thoughts
NamUs MP #17932
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/17932/487
Debra lee Vowell
Firstly I know the date is one year off but bear with me:
The age is similar, I think there is a resemblance, the hair colour strawberry/blonde, hazel eyes, but most importantly is the webbed 2nd and 3rd toes.
Debra Lee Vowell was reported missing from a yacht, however no yacht or bodies ever found, also last sighting was reported as Jan 1979 however could that be when reported missing instead? long shot I know but dentals are available.
The LA County Coroner has posted to NamUs a Facial reconstruction for this 1978 Jane Doe Case.
The Doe Network:
Hot Case 1423 http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/783ufca.html
NamUs UP Case 4426 https://identifyus.org/cases/4426
Unidentified White Female
* The victim was discovered on June 23, 1978 in Los Angeles County, California
* Estimated Date of Death: 1978
Vital Statistics
* Estimated age: 22-32 years old
* Approximate Height and Weight: 5'6"; 115 lbs.
* Distinguishing Characteristics: Red/Auburn hair; hazel/green eyes. The second and third toes on each foot are webbed together to the last joint. Decedent has given birth in the past.
* Clothing: 1 silver band with orange color trim, 1 yellow metal floral design ring. Navy blue jacket with red linning, medium size. Light blue jeans with red, white and blue horizontal stripes on rear pockets. Medium brown leather boots, size 6 or 7. Black short sleeve pullover blouse with pink floral design.
* Fingerprints: Available
* Dentals: Available
Case History
The victim was located on a remote hillside in the north Hollywood are of Los Angeles County, California on June 23, 1978.
The victim died of strangulation and suffocation.
The LA County Coroner has posted to NamUs a Facial reconstruction for this 1978 Jane Doe Case.
The Doe Network:
Hot Case 1423 http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/783ufca.html
NamUs UP Case 4426 https://identifyus.org/cases/4426
Unidentified White Female
* The victim was discovered on June 23, 1978 in Los Angeles County, California
* Estimated Date of Death: 1978
Vital Statistics
* Estimated age: 22-32 years old
* Approximate Height and Weight: 5'6"; 115 lbs.
* Distinguishing Characteristics: Red/Auburn hair; hazel/green eyes. The second and third toes on each foot are webbed together to the last joint. Decedent has given birth in the past.
* Clothing: 1 silver band with orange color trim, 1 yellow metal floral design ring. Navy blue jacket with red linning, medium size. Light blue jeans with red, white and blue horizontal stripes on rear pockets. Medium brown leather boots, size 6 or 7. Black short sleeve pullover blouse with pink floral design.
* Fingerprints: Available
* Dentals: Available
Case History
The victim was located on a remote hillside in the north Hollywood are of Los Angeles County, California on June 23, 1978.
The victim died of strangulation and suffocation.
I have been waiting to reply to your site. I have been searching for my mother for 23 years. She was raped and murdered when I was only 4. She has been missing for 38 years. I just found out this really is her on July 18th. Cold case detectives are coming out to my house the beginning of next week to answer my questions. This is all really so overwhelming to me. I have so many emotions running through my head. I have been looking for so long. I am hoping she can finally rest in peace. I will always love my mom.
I cried so hard when my husband found this site and the other that I replied to. I am touched that so many people cared and really wanted to know who she really was. It wasn't that way with my family. I was the only one who was actively looking. I never gave up. I never could. We went to the site where she was buried today and it was closed. My hope was to relocate her but all the John and Jane Does of each year are cremated and dumped in one grave for that year. Still hoping to put a marker where my grand parents are parents are located. We also went to the site where she was found today. It was a very emotional day. I named one of my four children after her.
I have been waiting to reply to your site. I have been searching for my mother for 23 years. She was raped and murdered when I was only 4. She has been missing for 38 years. I just found out this really is her on July 18th. Cold case detectives are coming out to my house the beginning of next week to answer my questions. This is all really so overwhelming to me. I have so many emotions running through my head. I have been looking for so long. I am hoping she can finally rest in peace. I will always love my mom.
I cried so hard when my husband found this site and the other that I replied to. I am touched that so many people cared and really wanted to know who she really was. It wasn't that way with my family. I was the only one who was actively looking. I never gave up. I never could. We went to the site where she was buried today and it was closed. My hope was to relocate her but all the John and Jane Does of each year are cremated and dumped in one grave for that year. Still hoping to put a marker where my grand parents are parents are located. We also went to the site where she was found today. It was a very emotional day. I named one of my four children after her.
I cried so hard when my husband found this site and the other that I replied to. I am touched that so many people cared and really wanted to know who she really was. It wasn't that way with my family. I was the only one who was actively looking. I never gave up. I never could. We went to the site where she was buried today and it was closed. My hope was to relocate her but all the John and Jane Does of each year are cremated and dumped in one grave for that year. Still hoping to put a marker where my grand parents are parents are located. We also went to the site where she was found today. It was a very emotional day. I named one of my four children after her.
Elizabeth is not listed in NamUs.
Connie is in NamUs, and she has a DNA profile.
The UID has a DNA profile, but it is insufficient for profiling, so it wouldn't appear that either of them can be ruled out by virtue of the absence of a CODIS hit.
She remembers coming home one day after kindergarten and asking her grandmother if she could call her mother because the other kids at school had moms, and she no longer had one.
"Every birthday wish, the only wish I ever wished was for her to come home,” McIntire remembered.
By the time she was 19 she decided to start gathering everything she could find on her mother, phone books, letters, legal documents.
Despite hearing the gruesome details of her mother’s death, McIntire is glad she finally gets to change the plaque on her mother’s grave.
"I knew there couldn't be a happy ending, but at least it's an ending,” she said. “It's closure for me and my sister… “Knowing that she has her name returned to her...to me, was an honor."
You said that her remains were cremated and put in a mass grave with other Does, I wonder then how they tried to get DNA to match against you, see the post below by Carl. I wonder if they have the wrong info and she is actually buried there?
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That "1979" plaque shown in the newsclip marks all of the remains buried in that year. There would be no way to exhume the remains even if they weren't cremated. If they had DNA from her mother's body, it was probably from either clothing or biological samples held in storage.
That "1979" plaque shown in the newsclip marks all of the remains buried in that year. There would be no way to exhume the remains even if they weren't cremated. If they had DNA from her mother's body, it was probably from either clothing or biological samples held in storage.
You are correct. Even though it happened in 78 she wasn't buried until 79. Yes, she was cremated because I asked if could move her to my grandparents, her parents. They said no. I spent hours and hours combing through the Doe Network. When I came upon this case I knew it was her. My sister, one of my sons, and one of my cousins all have the same webbed toes. She once had braces, she gave birth in the past (both I and my sister). When I look at that drawing I see my eyes, my forehead, and my nose. I had my sister and I go down to the coroners office with pictures. I held my breath as we had to look through the crime scene photos. They still had DNA in storage. After the coroner look at the photos he said he wanted copies before we left. They took mine and my sisters DNA sample. I had to wait two more years before I finally got an answer.
You are correct. Even though it happened in 78 she wasn't buried until 79. Yes, she was cremated because I asked if could move her to my grandparents, her parents. They said no. I spent hours and hours combing through the Doe Network. When I came upon this case I knew it was her. My sister, one of my sons, and one of my cousins all have the same webbed toes. She once had braces, she gave birth in the past (both I and my sister). When I look at that drawing I see my eyes, my forehead, and my nose. I had my sister and I go down to the coroners office with pictures. I held my breath as we had to look through the crime scene photos. They still had DNA in storage. After the coroner look at the photos he said he wanted copies before we left. They took mine and my sisters DNA sample. I had to wait two more years before I finally got an answer.