EmiLove832
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The young girl looks like Rose?
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The young girl looks like Rose?
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So much speculation. I really wish you guys would turn your attention to something OTHER THAN Synanon. Rose left in 72 - at that time, Synanon was not yet wierd, non-violent, no Marines, no head-shaving, hardly anything! 1972 was a fantastic time to be in Synanon (except if you were a scared girl who just wanted to get back to her family.) There are no graves at Synanon - no one died there. No secrecy, no paranoia. Chuck Dederich's beloved wife died in early 1977, and her death is what set everything in the direction of the bizarre. All of those posts about Dederich's control freak-ism, the regimentation, the cult-like environment? All that came much, MUCH later. But the kicker in the story is that Rose was ALREADY GONE and she wrote home AFTER she was gone. You already have proof that she was alive AFTER SHE LEFT. No one went to get her. No one. Trust me on this. I lived in Synanon - I know how it worked. Especially in 1972. The authority that sent her there WOULD have been contacted afer she left and her family WOULD have been contacted and it would've been their obligation to go and find her, not Synanon's.
Rose was a very young girl with nowhere to go, and she took off anyway. That's the most unfortunate part. I've read her letters here, and she really does sound bat-**** crazy. Girls like that end up on the streets (which you KNOW she did) and need money (so start selling themselves) and fall prey to monsters, of which there were MANY roaming the Bay Area at that time. IT WASN'T SYNANON. That's just the sexiest part of the story, sure, but you need to stop it and do a reality check. No one from Synanon remembers her. She was one of thousands and thousands that passed through. To be at all memorable to anyone, she would have had to stay for at least a year and make an attempt to turn her life around - she didn't do that, judging from her letters. She felt like a caged animal, and she wanted OUT. She was there for a minute and a half, and then she took off. If you're really interested in finding her, get her DNA sample and send it to the Bay Area for comparisons with the Jane Does they have at the morgues. If she were alive, she would have found her family by now....
I have to respectfully disagree on several points.
Firstly, you say Synanon was not yet weird. Rose talks in her letters about 'the game' and about being told that her family didn't want her. I realize that 'weird' is subjective, but in my opinion, that is weird.
Secondly, you say Rose sounded crazy in her letters. You have to remember that this girl ran away from home (something that many teens do), and all of a sudden found herself clear across the country, in a cult-like atmosphere, being insulted, yelled at and being told her family didn't want her home. I don't think one could expect a 'normal', well-adjusted teen under those circumstances, do you?
I wish we had a solid theory - and by that, I mean something with evidence to back it up. Until we do, we have to consider the possibility that she went back to Synanon right along with all the other possibilities.
So much speculation. I really wish you guys would turn your attention to something OTHER THAN Synanon. Rose left in 72 - at that time, Synanon was not yet wierd, non-violent, no Marines, no head-shaving, hardly anything! 1972 was a fantastic time to be in Synanon (except if you were a scared girl who just wanted to get back to her family.) There are no graves at Synanon - no one died there. No secrecy, no paranoia. Chuck Dederich's beloved wife died in early 1977, and her death is what set everything in the direction of the bizarre. All of those posts about Dederich's control freak-ism, the regimentation, the cult-like environment? All that came much, MUCH later. But the kicker in the story is that Rose was ALREADY GONE and she wrote home AFTER she was gone. You already have proof that she was alive AFTER SHE LEFT. No one went to get her. No one. Trust me on this. I lived in Synanon - I know how it worked. Especially in 1972. The authority that sent her there WOULD have been contacted afer she left and her family WOULD have been contacted and it would've been their obligation to go and find her, not Synanon's.
Rose was a very young girl with nowhere to go, and she took off anyway. That's the most unfortunate part. I've read her letters here, and she really does sound bat-**** crazy. Girls like that end up on the streets (which you KNOW she did) and need money (so start selling themselves) and fall prey to monsters, of which there were MANY roaming the Bay Area at that time. IT WASN'T SYNANON. That's just the sexiest part of the story, sure, but you need to stop it and do a reality check. No one from Synanon remembers her. She was one of thousands and thousands that passed through. To be at all memorable to anyone, she would have had to stay for at least a year and make an attempt to turn her life around - she didn't do that, judging from her letters. She felt like a caged animal, and she wanted OUT. She was there for a minute and a half, and then she took off. If you're really interested in finding her, get her DNA sample and send it to the Bay Area for comparisons with the Jane Does they have at the morgues. If she were alive, she would have found her family by now....
Frankly, I'd welcome any and all new information we can get on Rose's comings and goings after leaving Synanon. I agree that speculation only goes so far. Any new clues, old memories, insightful observations, or relevant records we don't already have would be far more useful. And I think that Rose's letters home (if someone would kindly repost them) are the best sources of evidence we currently have to what direction she initially went. Hopefully Ruth will be a great help too.
I wish we had access to Rose's letters. I've only read two of them, one from the YouTube video and the other from a summary on this website. I can't say if Rose sounded "crazy" or not without reading more of them. She certainly was troubled though. And if she did wind up on the streets, there's no telling where she ended up going or what became of her based on what little we know.
Oh, and Rose's brother Jesse Cole already provided a DNA sample to the Oakland Police Dept. several years ago, so it's already on file with no conclusive results so far.
Thank you, Valmont1905. I've posted again on the Synanon.org website and also on the Synanon Facebook page, asking if anyone might remember her. I was able to locate Ruth on the .org website -- she had signed in there, so I was able to search for a "Ruth" that was there in 1972 that I did not know and voila! So, really glad to find that piece of the puzzle. Another thought is this: Rose's letters mention staying in San Francisco with an older couple and battling a kidney infection. I'm wondering if that couple perhaps had been affiliated with Synanon and took her in. There was also a Synanon facility in SF at that time, on 24th Street near SF General. There were many "game club members" who were not residents of Synanon, perhaps that was how she met this couple? Anyway, I've posted again (as people have in the past) asking people to put on their memory caps and see if they remember anything about this girl. Kidney infections can be quite severe - could she have ended up in the hospital?
Welcome, PrivateEye56, and thanks for joining us! Sorry that I have only enough time now for a quick question: What years were you at Synanon? TIA.
That's a good question. She said she was staying in Chinatown, but I've looked through the city directories from 1973 and about 98% of the residents were Chinese. I've long wondered if the people she was staying with were Chinese, and I'm thinking they possibly were. I recall one of her letters referred to sitting in a room among laughter and chatter, but feeling all alone. (I'm paraphrasing as I don't recall the exact wording she used.) It seems to possibly point to the idea that the people didn't speak English.
I also wonder what 'an older couple' would be to a 16 year old. 30s'? 70's? It's really hard to say.
PrivateEye, is the Synanon facility you are referring to related to Delancey Street? From what I understand, Delancey Street was/is a sort of spin-off of Synanon, started by ex-Synanon members. I've also thought it was a possibility that she ended up there, after running out of options on her own. Although, it was a drug rehab program and I've still found nothing that points to Rose ever having used drugs. Her friends from home say she didn't. She apparently was sent to Synanon after running away from home and making a wisecrack to the judge.