Identified! CA - San Mateo Co, WhtMale 773UMCA, 19-25, female clothing, Nov'83 *name withheld*

[chatnoir84]

Does anyone know who the two men who were person's of interest are?

Where is that posted?

 

[Grungster]

Unidentified Wiki

 

[carbuff]

Keck isn't on the exclusions. I'm intrigued that he was wearing a silver cross pendant, as was the victim. The height difference isn't that great and as you say at 16 he could still have grown an inch or two.

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)


MP12439 Jorgen Andersen 02/17/1980 Marin CA
MP8722 Calvin Anderson 06/17/1974 Iron MI
MP5807 Michael Askren 08/06/1981 Los Angeles CA
MP7624 Gerald Bradshaw 04/06/1982 Virginia Beach VA
MP5895 Michael Burnett 03/17/1971 Butte CA
MP1753 John Butler 08/21/1961 Orange CA
MP14283 Pete Campbell 01/16/1973 Los Angeles CA
MP4662 Michael Causley 05/11/1979 Los Angeles CA
MP4548 Ronald Cole 05/01/1965 Ventura CA
MP20498 Jeffrey Comphel 10/15/1983 Alameda CA
MP7069 Norman CREECH 11/25/1983 Sacramento CA
MP17747 Stephan Dunaetz 09/23/1981 Los Angeles CA
MP9319 ANDREW EWING 12/08/1976 Shasta CA
MP16982 Donald Gregory 02/01/1983 Riverside CA
MP17748 John Higham 06/24/1980 Los Angeles CA
MP17757 Gregory Hinz 11/15/1976 Los Angeles CA
MP17622 Daniel Hoffer 05/28/1975 Los Angeles CA
MP5667 Dale KELLEY 05/20/1981 Sacramento CA
MP1752 Christopher King 08/02/1974 San Bernardino CA
MP17575 Ronald Kruska 10/10/1978 Los Angeles CA
MP1275 Jeffrey Lowery 11/12/1981 San Luis Obispo CA
MP4637 Roger Madison 12/16/1968 Los Angeles CA
MP4544 Daniel Naylor 10/05/1982 Alameda CA
MP1437 William Prescott 02/05/1980 San Mateo CA
MP4614 Derran Rogers 02/27/1973 Stanislaus CA
MP37753 David Schwarzschild 08/02/1979 San Francisco CA
MP717 Stewart Simmons 06/19/1982 San Diego CA

 

[goldenarrow]

Keck isn't on the exclusions. I'm intrigued that he was wearing a silver cross pendant, as was the victim. The height difference isn't that great and as you say at 16 he could still have grown an inch or two.

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)


MP12439 Jorgen Andersen 02/17/1980 Marin CA
MP8722 Calvin Anderson 06/17/1974 Iron MI
MP5807 Michael Askren 08/06/1981 Los Angeles CA
MP7624 Gerald Bradshaw 04/06/1982 Virginia Beach VA
MP5895 Michael Burnett 03/17/1971 Butte CA
MP1753 John Butler 08/21/1961 Orange CA
MP14283 Pete Campbell 01/16/1973 Los Angeles CA
MP4662 Michael Causley 05/11/1979 Los Angeles CA
MP4548 Ronald Cole 05/01/1965 Ventura CA
MP20498 Jeffrey Comphel 10/15/1983 Alameda CA
MP7069 Norman CREECH 11/25/1983 Sacramento CA
MP17747 Stephan Dunaetz 09/23/1981 Los Angeles CA
MP9319 ANDREW EWING 12/08/1976 Shasta CA
MP16982 Donald Gregory 02/01/1983 Riverside CA
MP17748 John Higham 06/24/1980 Los Angeles CA
MP17757 Gregory Hinz 11/15/1976 Los Angeles CA
MP17622 Daniel Hoffer 05/28/1975 Los Angeles CA
MP5667 Dale KELLEY 05/20/1981 Sacramento CA
MP1752 Christopher King 08/02/1974 San Bernardino CA
MP17575 Ronald Kruska 10/10/1978 Los Angeles CA
MP1275 Jeffrey Lowery 11/12/1981 San Luis Obispo CA
MP4637 Roger Madison 12/16/1968 Los Angeles CA
MP4544 Daniel Naylor 10/05/1982 Alameda CA
MP1437 William Prescott 02/05/1980 San Mateo CA
MP4614 Derran Rogers 02/27/1973 Stanislaus CA
MP37753 David Schwarzschild 08/02/1979 San Francisco CA
MP717 Stewart Simmons 06/19/1982 San Diego CA

The necklace was the most striking similarity to me. Good to know- thanks for the response!

 

[Moonwalker9]

Looks like he will be identified soon. Pending identification according to doenetwork. I guess this is the work of dna doe since they took on the case. Exciting to follow.

 

[rosesfromangels]

Looks like he will be identified soon. Pending identification according to doenetwork. I guess this is the work of dna doe since they took on the case. Exciting to follow.

At the risk of being a broken record, I am *so* convinced this is James Hires. James has a distinctive face shape that seems to be replicated in the rendering of him.

BTW, does anyone know how to determine who the original Detective on the case was so many years ago?

Amateur opinion and speculation

 

[Adrian_Almost_Sleuth]

I so glad they're finally going to be identified. This has been one of the cases I've hoping to get their due. Is there going to be a press conference soon?

 

[aThousandYearsWide]

Looks like he will be identified soon. Pending identification according to doenetwork. I guess this is the work of dna doe since they took on the case. Exciting to follow.

That's interesting they put their case in the identified if it's still pending. I wonder if their name will get released or not.

 

[Adrian_Almost_Sleuth]

That's interesting they put their case in the identified if it's still pending. I wonder if their name will get released or not.

Since it's a murder case, authorities will most likely release a name. There could be someone close to the UID that knew them and could probably help authorities find a suspect.

 

[Nancy Drew RN]

I wonder (hope) this is another of those cases where there's also perp DNA, and they're waiting until that's wrapped up before making a joint announcement.

 

[Adrian_Almost_Sleuth]

I wonder (hope) this is another of those cases where there's also perp DNA, and they're waiting until that's wrapped up before making a joint announcement.

I was thinking the same thing! Like with Anita Piteau this past June.

 

[rosesfromangels]

I was just checking the DNA Doe site, and this case is still pending, but "tentatively identified" pending additional review from LE. That was almost a year ago. Those of you following the thread know I"m obsessed/convinced this is James Hire. Just now, I took a headshot of James from Namus and overlaid it with oppacity on top of the latest artist's rendering of Pillar Point Doe. I've never seen a better line up; the eyes and nose were perfect, as well as the face shape. The mouth was a bit harder because James is smiling in the actual photo, and the rendering without a smile.

If this isn't James, then he has a doppleganger.
Amateur opinion and speculation

 

[Adrian_Almost_Sleuth]

I was just checking the DNA Doe site, and this case is still pending, but "tentatively identified" pending additional review from LE. That was almost a year ago. Those of you following the thread know I"m obsessed/convinced this is James Hire. Just now, I took a headshot of James from Namus and overlaid it with oppacity on top of the latest artist's rendering of Pillar Point Doe. I've never seen a better line up; the eyes and nose were perfect, as well as the face shape. The mouth was a bit harder because James is smiling in the actual photo, and the rendering without a smile.

If this isn't James, then he has a doppleganger.
Amateur opinion and speculation

I think the fact that James' car was found at an airport and he was last seen in San Fran in 1983 makes him a top possibility of being the UID. Are you talking about those cartoonish rendering with and without makeup?

 

[UnlicensedPI]

I think the fact that James' car was found at an airport and he was last seen in San Fran in 1983 makes him a top possibility of being the UID. Are you talking about those cartoonish rendering with and without makeup?

There's a comment on this blog from someone claiming to be James' brother. It says, "the Information in about him being seen in California is wrong. This report has been disproven"
James Hires

 

[rosesfromangels]

There's a comment on this blog from someone claiming to be James' brother. It says, "the Information in about him being seen in California is wrong. This report has been disproven"
James Hires

Thank you, although this isn't an approved MSM source. None the less, interesting.

I still think it's him based on the rendering and uncanny match up to his photo/facial structure. However I have been wrong on more than one occasion when I was positive I was right! Time will tell. Whoever this Dear Doe is, I pray that his family gets closure.

Amateur opinion and speculation

 

[Massachusetts101]

Hi so um I don't think it is James W Hires as he had

" Fractured right clavicle, fractured upper left arm, discoloration on the left knee. "
I feel like if our Jane Doe had fractures and discoloration on the left knee, the case file would have told us because knowing past fractures/breaks is something HUGE to know right off the back so at least to me, I cross James off the list sadly.

I know this is a long shot but have we looked into WOMEN? It is 1983, i feel like this person could lie with a fake name possibly? I know they would still be missing but what if they changed their name throughout their life because they seemed to want to look like a woman. It sounds silly but maybe we can find something.

Here is a few cases of missing people who do look kind of like our Jane Doe

Roger Dale Madison
3325DMCA - Roger Dale Madison

John Allen Troha
4031DMMI - John Allen Troha

 

[Susikatze]

From the recon (yes a recon can only do so much...) actually they could have been Asian, Hispanic, Native or multiracial. They do not look Caucasian to me. Has an ethnicity estimate been done for them?

 

[ivonne]

Creo que ha sido identificado. No han dado a conocer su nombre.
773UMCA

 

[MadMcGoo]

Creo que ha sido identificado. No han dado a conocer su nombre.
773UMCA

(translation) I think it has been identified. They have not released his name.

 

[chatnoir84]

Creo que ha sido identificado. No han dado a conocer su nombre.
773UMCA

It's been a year now. I wonder if they haven't released the name due to further investigation.