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It is cheaply made garbage. All of those re-enactment shows are poorly done and I wouldn’t depend on the journalism surrounding them. They are mass produced for views.To be honest I actually don't like People Magazine Investigates because I watched another case which I won't mention here as I don't want to derail the thread and felt they were intentionally misleading. When I read around the case I discovered they presented it in an extremely biased way to suit their own agenda of the show rather than presenting the facts and I was dismayed by that. They left really key things out and tried to throw it one way.
However, in this horribly sad case I felt OK to reference the actual quotes from current LE as it was verbatim and not anything to do with the show per se. So I am glad you watched it for that, especially as there are two of them who are on the same page.
k-mac, I believe more people than you mention may know what happened. However, who knows, it is all up in the air.
I just feel so sad for Tina. How many people victimised her. It is wretched. She was abused by her dad, she was abused by the neighbour from the previous address, <modsnip: Removed accusation against non POI> and then she is awoken to this heinous crime, her family is murdered and she is murdered. I mean how many horrible events (and those are the ones we know about). The whole thing is sad. It is so long ago and so sad. I feel sad that people were killed who had nothing to do with it. I wonder if it is finally time for someone to speak out after all of this time as it would bring an incredible sense of closure and they would be able to get on with their lives. I know I would not be able to fully get on with my life if I had knowledge of something like this, it would sit in the back of my mind affecting everything I did and it would only be after I spoke out that I would be able to live and move on. What a weight to bear.
Dana. The friend was Dana Wingate.I posted this video because I thought it contained a concise summary of what probably happened that night. Ken Mains is a cold case detective and he has a guest on his podcast, William Noguera, who is a reformed convicted killer, currently imprisoned, who discusses cold cases and provides some insight from what might be the killer's viewpoint.
Ken and his partner both feel it was Marty and his partner Beau who killed the Sue Sharp, her daughter, Tina, son and her son's friend. As others have speculated, it probably began as Marty going over to threaten Sue for convincing his wife to leave him. Marty and Beau were both mentally unstable men who were suffering from PTSD after their service in the Vietnam War. The arguing escalated and Marty killed Sue. Her son and his friend Dylan, probably arrived at the wrong time, were tied up and later killed because they had witnessed Sue's murder. Same reason for kidnapping and later killing Sue's daughter.
There was a different interpretation of how LE handled the murders. William Noguera said the involvement of so many federal officers investigating the murders was likely because of Bo Beaudebe's connections to Chicago area organized crime. Noguera says having that many federal officers show up so quickly to investigate a murder is unusual. He believes Bo was an informant against the organized crime/Mafia in the Chicago area who worked with the FBI. Bo had probably been sent to Keddie, CA to get him out of town and away from the gang the FBI was trying to break up. FBI informants have a great deal of protection in their roles and often any crimes they're involved in are usually hushed up to protect the FBI's operation to take down the gang/Mafia. For that reason, he believes, the investigation was deliberately mishandled, evidence not checked, defendants not questioned, etc. in order to let the case go cold. Local LE cooperated. Both guys in the podcast believe if not for the feds clogging up the investigation, the case probably would have been solved within a few weeks or a month. The perps lived there, were seen at Sue's cabin, quite a bit of evidence, motive, etc.
I tend to agree. What do you think?
The FBI came to Keddie right away to help with the investigation. IIRC, they were there the next day. They or the state DOJ had a helicopter and took a lot of aerial photos of the Keddie area. Even today, they don't come into local murder cases unless there's a special reason. I'll have to go back to check. The state sent agents from organized crime, not homicide, to investigate.Dana. The friend was Dana Wingate.
Sounds like quite a bit of speculation. What receipts did they bring regarding Bo being an FBI informant or being sent to Keddie purposefully? I have watched the video because I don’t care for Mains, but I might watch it. Mostly he just says things and wants his viewers to believe him because he knows.
According to Gamberg, right after the murders, Sheriff Doug Thomas contacted the DOJ in Sacramento. DOJ sent two men, special agents Harry Bradley and P.A. Crim from the division’s organized crime unit — not from homicide — to investigate.
The only way this decision by DOJ makes sense is in considering the background of one of the suspects. Severin John “Bo” Boubede, Smartt’s friend. He had known connections with organized crime in Chicago.
Much of that article cites dmac. While I know he has the lion’s share of information, he also believes Sheila was in on the murders, do you?The FBI came to Keddie right away to help with the investigation. IIRC, they were there the next day. They or the state DOJ had a helicopter and took a lot of aerial photos of the Keddie area. Even today, they don't come into local murder cases unless there's a special reason. I'll have to go back to check. The state sent agents from organized crime, not homicide, to investigate.
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Of course its all speculation based on evidence and witness statements, just as all the speculation has been about this case.
Much of that article cites dmac. While I know he has the lion’s share of information, he also believes Sheila was in on the murders, do you?
With respect to the FBI and the DOJ involvement, I believe they suspected the ex-husband early on and he was in the military. Might this have had something to do with their involvement? I honestly do not know the answer.
The article also states, “What has made this case particularly hard to organize is that the original case history log — who did what and on what date — is gone. Gamberg said he has hunches about what happened to it, but it hasn’t been recovered.” It seems we do not know exactly who did what when. I just hate to entertain conspiracy theories if there is a more logical explanation. Not to mention there are theories about the sheriff and a coverup, so why would he want the DOJ and the FBI called In? I believe dmac hypothesized that Bo was still alive as recently as a couple years ago, even though there is a death certificate, IIRC. It has been over a year since I went down this rabbit hole. One thing is for sure, I just wish they would make all the records public at this point.
Like the Lindbergh baby kidnapping and the missing Sodder children this is a case where the authorities really screwed up the investigation.
I have a hard time believing that two guys who were on drugs, suffered from PTSD, and one had serious anger issues where FBI informants.